The Last Night - Oneshot

[alto129]

She said what were sent back are her will,  not explicitly and might not exactly her  memory.
Although, the narration (square speech bubble) does make it sounds like an inner voice and spoke as if there's a memory.

 

[Xaelath]

She has a fetish for dying that's for sure otherwise after returning a few times they should've already defeated him

 

[AcidVlad]

That's certified kino

 

[dsid2814]

Some of these comments are kind of unfairly bagging on the mage... but no one seems to pick up on the hints that the hero KNOWS. She just doesn't know that he knows because he probably pays a price every time she uses her power.

Can you provide any examples of this claim?

 

[dsid2814]

She said what were sent back are her will,  not explicitly and might not exactly her  memory.
Although, the narration (square speech bubble) does make it sounds like an inner voice and spoke as if there's a memory.

Now I’m beginning to wonder if this is a translation issue. Like the ending of BNHA

 

[beggarSoChan2020l2r3]

Edge of Tomorrow: Depresso

 

[StLL]

never give up

 

[marzial09]

 

[Mr_Detective]

RIP discount Kakashi. T_T

There might be a reason why she can't tell the party everything. Maybe a restriction or a limit of this time-travel-like ability.

 

[Shamz]

Am i the one making the wrong assumptions? Although she did say their deaths replayed and had heard that line countless times, it could have been counting the failures/deaths even before they fought the demon lord and the second phase being the current new finding.
But if that is what it was, it would have been better if the artist overlap their deaths with the previous runs deaths from traps and whatever you run into in a demon lord castle.

But the part where she said "we should have stopped sooner" was kinda weird. Ig its just trying to paint that the only reason shes doing the redos is because of Joel's encouragement or something.

 

[wizard_mouse]

hmmm... NAH, if the author had added a sense of urgency like: the dark fog is consuming the kingdom, the chosen sword is losing its power, Etc. then it would make more sense why the last night keeps repeating, why not delay until everything is right?????

 

[TooOldForThis]

Can you provide any examples of this claim?

Sure. First off though, keep in mind this is a oneshot, which really ever only lays down the core concepts of a story that doesn't get expanded on unless it gets picked up for serialization. So it's not like the author has decided on all the story details, or any world building details, so everything's open ended and may not even be consistent, but I think this author did great with leaving enough mystique and providing just enough breadcrumbs where things can have double meanings, and left open ended for interpretations; nothing that locks them in to a single path if it gets picked up for serialization, since they probably haven't even decided yet.

The Smile
On P.6, "You always hide something with that smile". The mid-page panel has Joel with a forced (almost, pained) smile, where he's quick to agree with Hannah and disagree with kid Kaikashi after he specifically says "this is also your first time", suggesting he knows something (if you take it at face value, maybe he's just supporting his childhood friend, but... maybe he knows it's not her first time and it's not his first time).
On P.7 (top panel, when he exclaims that he'll defeat the demon king), P.10 (where he says "it's not pointless"), P.11 (where he talks about the repetition, and defeating the demon lord), and P.27 (where he says I'll always be by your side), he has the same forced smile of "hiding something". Every time, what he says can also be interpreted as him knowing something about the "loop" and hiding that fact, rather than just the standard hero's confident bluster.)

The confession?
P. 26 & 27 - you can take his dialogue as meaning for her to inform a new hero party she might pair with and that there's a final "confession" or another hero platitude, 'to be by her side"... or maybe he knows he'll be the next iteration, and he's telling her literally he'll always be with her, not figuratively, just like all the previous exclamations weren't just overconfident hero platitudes, but more literal. On P.15, he also tries to tell her something but she interrupts him. They both give off the vibe throughout that they're characters who suck at communicating (all those ellipses "..."), who will keep secrets from each other to protect the other while suffering themselves because they don't want the other person to know that they're suffering for the other person's sake.

Powers
We don't know what the hero's powers are. He might even be in control of the loop in some way (since on P.33 - she suggests that she has given up, and tried to escape from the endless torment but couldn't). He's the one who's adamant about repetition, even in the flashback to beat the drunk - he may have awakened a power to get x times stronger with each failed attempt back then, so that an "immeasurable difference in power" can eventually be matched by an infinite number of tries and power ups. So even if he doesn't have memory of previous iterations, he'll know what's up just from knowing his own power, and feeling the effects. He might not know she has to die in order for a new iteration to start - he might just be thinking that the cost is him dying and accumulating the pain from dying in each subsequent iteration.

There are a few other long shot possibilities that crossed my mind, but whether you think any of what I've already suggested is possible or not, I don't think hating on Hannah is justified. In an infinite number of loops, we don't know what she's tried and what she hasn't tried to get them as far as they got in this iteration. Maybe in all the iterations where she told her party everything including her power, those resulted in even worse outcomes and earlier deaths.

 

[KatoShuu]

She must have used that power countless times during their journey, since the knighr said "it's the usual poisonous again"

 

[SomeGuy10002]

Git gud bruh

 

[Black_Beat]

Now I’m beginning to wonder if this is a translation issue. Like the ending of BNHA

I'm pretty sure the JP explicitly say "will". I mean, I'd definitely use memory if I can translate the word to memory (will do a re-check tomorrow).

The one line I'm not sure about is the "We should've stopped earlier" because the original JP actually omitts the subject and object of the sentence. But if that's the case, then it's a sentences that can be interpreted in more ways than one on purpose.

 

[Black_Beat]

I mean we aren't even sure if she has gotten to this point before

She has, the line "This immeasurable difference in power" suggests that she already sees the demon lord getting serious before.

 

[Black_Beat]

the hero KNOWS.

I don't think the hero knows.

Counterpoints from your other comment (from writing standpoint): The line "You always hide something with that smile" is probably for the scene in which he kept smiling even on the verge of dying.

"I'll always be by your side" is a common line of someone who's about to die in stories.

Joel being adamant about repetition is for Hannah's line to the demon lord being a callback to Joel's.

But I agree with you about everyone being too harsh to Hannah. Hannah added the line "If a hundred times doesn't work, try a thousand" suggest that Hannah probably has done hundreds of tries.

 

[TooOldForThis]

I don't think the hero knows.

Counterpoints from your other comment (from writing standpoint): The line "You always hide something with that smile" is probably for the scene in which he kept smiling even on the verge of dying.

"I'll always be by your side" is a common line of someone who's about to die in stories.

Joel being adamant about repetition is for Hannah's line to the demon lord being a callback to Joel's.

But I agree with you about everyone being too harsh to Hannah. Hannah added the line "If a hundred times doesn't work, try a thousand" suggest that Hannah probably has done hundreds of tries.

Yeah, like I mentioned, it can be interpreted multiple ways. Great for a oneshot and providing hints for potential plot expansion. Too bad the comments are verging on the negative side instead of seeing the possibilities. Basically stifling a story before it's had a chance to breathe.

 

[TooOldForThis]

I'm pretty sure the JP explicitly say "will". I mean, I'd definitely use memory if I can translate the word to memory (will do a re-check tomorrow).

The one line I'm not sure about is the "We should've stopped earlier" because the original JP actually omitts the subject and object of the sentence. But if that's the case, then it's a sentences that can be interpreted in more ways than one on purpose.

I think you had it right. The Japanese had 意志　when normally, you'd expect to see 意識　(consciousness). There was an inner dialogue box that read 記憶　, specifically to say they'll remember this "heartwrenching memory" (which, btw, seems like it could imply that those boxes is spoken from the future by unknown narrator(s)... but again, of course, could have a simpler explanation that it's just coming from Hannah in that moment.)

Either way, I think the author has some obvious plot holes (well, of course, being a oneshot) for exploration when it comes to the whole "memory" thing and what she decides to say and not say.

 

[EchoGirl]

can she travel back in time and then kill herself again and keep doing it to go back in time until she can rescue her parents?

Well it said to the 'last day' so i doubt she could go that far back (even if she could as a kid doesn't necessarily mean she'd have the power to stop it versus being stronger every time as a reset bonus or they would've defeated the demon king already/found a weakness)