The Woman Who Messes With My Emotions (2022) - Vol. 1 Ch. 3

[Aegon]

this "please value yourself more" trope is so retarded
that's something you say to your sister or someone you actually have strong ties to
if it's just some bitch then why would you bother trying to value her higher than she's valuing herself? what's she done to deserve that?
but no it's just an excuse they reach for to justify refusing the masculine role being offered to them out of fear of inadequacy (= it will never impress a woman like it's shown doing, ever). and this is taken for granted as viscerally relatable to the readers.

japanese man try to not be cuckold challenge [impossible]

I totally agree with you.

I find rather dumb the trope about "i-i-i-i think you-you should value your s-s-sself more" and she instantly fall in love with him

 

[weshwg]

Idk man, no romance tag.. i feel like this will just b blue balling mc the manga. Unless theres proper development later thats a bitch move

 

[Akane02]

Oh no she lock on target...

 

[UnvalidUserName]

But is she "real" toxic type, or just the "I was only pretending to be toxic" variety?

Maybe she is moronsexual. That is, only attracted to idiots

 

[eleven179]

The constant "I'm sorry" is getting annoying

 

[xSinStarx]

"Please value yourself more." I hate that this is always played as some big moment that makes the girl fall for the MC. It's so cringe, and if I saw it happen irl, the secondhand embarrassment would make me throw myself into traffic right in front of them. Two birds, one stone, cuz good luck getting the girl when she gets Vietnam flashbacks of that moment every time she sees you.

 

[Huichelaar]

You know, instead of patronisingly telling her to value herself more (who are you to decide what value she has, or who she does or does not share the bed with?), you could just tell her that you are not comfortable getting intimate with her. Or that you need to get to know her more to trust her. This way, the unprovoked/uncalled for advice is far more indirect. Besides, it takes (at least) two to tango. If she's up for it, then the question is whether you are. There's no shame in saying no.

It's disappointing how often series like these take the guy's initiative away, out of fear of displaying a male MC that isn't sexually active due to his own choices, but due to circumstances. Are authors worried that if he chooses not to have sex when it's presented to him on a silver platter they'd lose the primary target audience's immersion?

 

[finalm]

You know, instead of patronisingly telling her to value herself more (who are you to decide what value she has, or who she does or does not share the bed with?), you could just tell her that you are not comfortable getting intimate with her. Or that you need to get to know her more to trust her. This way, the unprovoked/uncalled for advice is far more indirect. Besides, it takes (at least) two to tango. If she's up for it, then the question is whether you are. There's no shame in saying no.

It's disappointing how often series like these take the guy's initiative away, out of fear of displaying a male MC that isn't sexually active due to his own choices, but due to circumstances. Are authors worried that if he chooses not to have sex when it's presented to him on a silver platter they'd lose the primary target audience's immersion?

Yeah, it's not only condescending, it just communicates that in your eyes, the other person is loose and that's not necessarily the message you want to send (and if it is, just say it outright instead of trying to be the big brother).

 

[Firemorfox]

She likes to live dangerously and is therefore dangerous.

How do I know? SHE USES HER PHONE IN THE BATHTUB!!!!!

 

[ShEEeshAlert1]

Bro thought he was the danger like he wasn't gonna get his kidneys singular