Toaru Anbu no ITEM - Vol. 1 Ch. 4

[MangaDex]

 

[Saybah]

Best way to explain it is that Mitori is just that unhinged for Dolly.

Also I feel like the theme is that every esper even involved in the dark side didn't do anything wrong since it was the adults who throw them into that world and benefits from it. Fits with what Aleister said about how Touma and the rest are in the world of adults now that Aleister no longer lead Academy city. I think what Aleister means is that from now on they no longer part of Aleister plot and they have to take responsibility of their own actions.

 

[Imagen-Breaker]

Best way to explain it is that Mitori is just that unhinged for Dolly.

Also I feel like the theme is that every esper even involved in the dark side didn't do anything wrong since it was the adults who throw them into that world and benefits from it. Fits with what Aleister said about how Touma and the rest are in the world of adults now that Aleister no longer lead Academy city. I think what Aleister means is that from now on they no longer part of Aleister plot and they have to take responsibility of their own actions.

Okay so basically

The final chapter of Daihasei Festival arc that has Mitori and Shokuhou picking up Dolly 2 didn't happen in the original version as the chapters were being released. It was only in the volume version this chapter was added.

Meaning originally Mitori would've been defeated by Kuroko and she would've been sent to prison, you could consider it a soft retcon.

Dolly backup only appears at the end of the arc with no foreshadowing. My friend said: "I don’t see how the second dolly could be part of the original script if the entire encounter leading up to it and the reveal itself was part of an editors addition."

Also Shokuhou learned about her existence because of Gensei's memories. It seems like a last minute addition.

So originally Mitori wouldn't have gotten such a bright and happy ending.

Also about the kids argument: Characters in Toaru very often struggle with the responsibility of others dying because of them, Accelerator, Mikoto, Mugino and Touma in NT9.

Kids in Toaru are never left off the hook for their actions it affects and informs how they act now. Taking another human life is still a horrid act regardless of age.

 

[oka-tan]

it lets characters off too easily

Like, in a moral sense (Mitori didn't really struggle with the morality of what she did once she got Dolly back) or in a practical sense (Mitori didn't really have to face any practical consequences for what she did)?

Touma has never actually cared whether the people he beats up go to jail so that kind of translates to everything else. Kamachi probably didn't bother much with the moral thing because it's largely a rethread of Accel's character arc.

 

[ACentralIndex]

(Mitori didn't really struggle with the morality of what she did once she got Dolly back)

I mean technically she didn't but she might as well have gotten dolly back.

She's in the same boat as ITEM, since both have blood on their hands. The real answer is that they're all human and capable of just as much good as bad, Mitori just stands out within the railgun group as someone who went against the railgun crew and switched sides with minimal examination for her reasoning outside of getting a new doll( y ).

 

[TheMather1]

Okay so basically

The final chapter of Daihasei Festival arc that has Mitori and Shokuhou picking up Dolly 2 didn't happen in the original version as the chapters were being released. It was only in the volume version this chapter was added.

Meaning originally Mitori would've been defeated by Kuroko and she would've been sent to prison, you could consider it a soft retcon.

Dolly backup only appears at the end of the arc with no foreshadowing. My friend said: "I don’t see how the second dolly could be part of the original script if the entire encounter leading up to it and the reveal itself was part of an editors addition."

Except the Radio Noise Project and Level 6 Shift Project only ever happened as part of Aleister's plan to create the Misaka Network and spread it across the Earth in order to manifest Aiwass and FUZE=Kazakiri,

There was no reason to use Misaka's DNA as the proof of concept for regular cloning. So obviously Dolly was meant to test something about the nature of her clones.
Most relevant then is the ability for the clones to share brainwaves in order to sync their AIM, which makes a second Dolly necessary.

 

[Imagen-Breaker]

Except the Radio Noise Project and Level 6 Shift Project only ever happened as part of Aleister's plan to create the Misaka Network and spread it across the Earth in order to manifest Aiwass and FUZE=Kazakiri,

There was no reason to use Misaka's DNA as the proof of concept for regular cloning. So obviously Dolly was meant to test something about the nature of her clones.
Most relevant then is the ability for the clones to share brainwaves in order to sync their AIM, which makes a second Dolly necessary.

Shouldn't that be stated directly though?

 

[TheMather1]

Shouldn't that be stated directly though?

If everything in the Toaru franchise was to be stated directly, we'd be looking at enough factoids to mirror Wikipedia.

This whole franchise is one big puzzle surrounding the parent story. That is the joy of it.

 

[ACentralIndex]

If everything in the Toaru franchise was to be stated directly, we'd be looking at enough factoids to mirror Wikipedia.

This whole franchise is one big puzzle surrounding the parent story. That is the joy of it.

I mean what was stated and shown was that dolly's backup was made incase the original died and the memories were copied over manually. not shared through a network that didn't exist yet to a clone that had never woken up.

 

[Veruschka]

Frenda is too cute to have that fate 😭

 

[Raydnt]

Very out of character for Mitori.

When she thought she unintentionally killed Kuroko in Railgun, she was extremely distressed.

Now here before railgun event happened she's killing civilians without a second thought?