Toki-sensei wa Kigaetai - Vol. 3 Ch. 34 - Idol

[raze2012]

Has this guy made a doujin anywhere i missed?

yes. Can't find any numbers, though. Gotta go to sad panda.

 

[Late_Komei]

It takes one shady agent for that dream to come true, Toki.

 

[NeverAnother]

The delusions are bleeding into real life. I mean it when I say I want this to follow a Kiliu plot till the end

 

[Arghit]

Task failed successfully.

 

[Nivek]

Summer-sensei knows...

Everyone knows

A shame ikuko dropped her dream.so fast

 

[Kanami-chan]

sexier than toki-sensei

 

[Doomroar]

Yeah there are plenty of gravure idols over 20. Ina Enohara is big right now, she's 28.

So the answer is no for regular idols, all idols over 20 do gravure then?

Yes, there are plenty of idols over 20

You forgot the examples tho

There are a-lot of Seiyuu (VA) that also debut as singer and idol, they tend to stick longer than the "true" Idol cunter part, even to age 30+ like Uesaka Sumire or Yui Horie but even so at that point they are closer to being Artist / SInger than Idol.

So they no longer do idol work? what's the difference between an idol and a pop artist then? is it just the costumes? if so why not just update the cosplay to match the age and kept the live-show dynamic?

Quite a few gravure idols now are starting in their mid 20s now, I think there might actually be more of a market for it (but that's just an assumption based on the popular gravure idols I see crop up a lot). Ino Enohara started at 26, Minami Hori and Aoi Mizobata started at 24, etc.

Gravure idol scene I think has changed a lot in the last decade - the whole idol world has, way, way less money in all of it than it used to (gravure especially because of the death of print media). I mean, you're still getting 12 year olds debuting in Hello! Project but they're like a dinosaur that has just pared back its business model as much as possible to survive.

What separates a gravure idol from just a gravure model tho, or even a JAV actress? is it just numbers or the company promoting her products?

Was Hitomi Tanaka a gravure idol?

Oh look @Mangamoz 12 year old gravure idols, in our current days, remember that talk about the daughter's age and the aunt saying that she was marriageable from "Is a mother on her 30s ok?" i guess this answers that discussion... jeez

 

[phil777]

sexier than toki-sensei


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Hahaha! No. Flat = rejected. Come back in a few years when you start growing up.

 

[Velificatio]

What separates a gravure idol from just a gravure model tho, or even a JAV actress? is it just numbers or the company promoting her products?

Was Hitomi Tanaka a gravure idol?

Oh look @Mangamoz 12 year old gravure idols, in our current days, remember that talk about the daughter's age and the aunt saying that she was marriageable from "Is a mother on her 30s ok?" i guess this answers that discussion... jeez

Whoops! Didn't mean to imply that Hello! Project was creating 12 year old gravure idols - just regular idols. Though that said they get sexualised by the online fanbase just as much as everyone else, and it's not like they didn't in the past have some extremely shady stuff with girls of that age (eg. Ai Kago, early S/mileage). It's pretty fascinating though - now more and more idols of that agency are opting not to do swimsuit photos and be overtly sexualised (after a few of the influential senior members refused) and it's lead to a lot of discussion online about the differing attitudes of new generations and such, not to mention a lot of anger that they, as fans and supporters, are being "denied".

And the difference between "idol" and regular model? I'd say it's that an idol is a brand unto themselves - so it's not just about them appearing in a thing, it's about them being in that but also cultivating and appealing to a fan base, creating a sellable character, diversifying their career with variety show spots, usually being part of an agency promoting them, having fan events, etc. It's really the parasocial element coming into play.

Incidentally if anyone is particularly interested in this aspect of Japanese pop culture I highly recommend you check out the work of Patrick W. Galbraith - he's one of the few serious writers on the subject.

 

[KazuyaKan]

sexier than toki-sensei


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Ok, now I know the artist is pulling numbers out of thier ass.
There is no fucking way there is a 20cm difference between her waist and chest with those mosquitoe bites. Maybe if you measure with 1 (or both) arms you can come up with those extra 20cm.
Artist did the same thing in a earlier chapter with another flat-chested student with similar numbers.

 

[Fugutron]

sexier than toki-sensei


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Sometimes a fresh flattie is good too~

 

[EAMike212]

NGL, I dont like the message at the beginning that you should only chase your dreams after growing up so you dont disappoint your parents. Kind of seems toxic.