Tokyo卍Revengers - Vol. 17 Ch. 149 - Arch Villain

[DonTheGod]

@Big_Boss

"That is wague "future" at best, real future was shown with Mikey either irrelevant or "evil"." How is this peek into the future Vague? This one seems more reliable due to the fact that the other time jumps never even fucking happened and it only happened because Mitchy lets his younger self take control for 12 fucking years.

"Author implying that this is "good" development doesn't mean this is actually well written, as it is nowhere near good."

Of course I'm not gonna say this is fucking God Tier level writing, but most of you brats claim this is shit writing because Mitchy isn't as strong as the people around him, which I say is BULLSHIT, the MC doesn't need to be strong for a fucking good story and that's what most of you are implying which is retarded on so many levels.

"Dude in a pursuit of saving his ex girlfriend already caused more deaths than original future had. Two exits out of this"

Who's to say that there was more deaths BEFORE he time jumped into the past. There's nothing implying less people died before he went back to the past, so this claim is irrelevant.

Also, I don't see Mitchy killing Kisaki, he ain't that type of guy. More than likely Kisaki is also going to bow his head to Mitchy as well in later chapters.

I see this story as trying to teach readers that you don't need to be super strong or super smart to win in the end, if you have the heart to keep going forward, it'll work out. I don't need to see Mitchy fucking kick 10 guys ass by himself. I'd be more satisfied watching the people who respect him handle his business and he himself not give up when shit gets tough.

 

[Big_Boss]

@DonTheGod

This one seems more reliable due to the fact that the other time jumps never even fucking happened and it only happened because Mitchy lets his younger self take control for 12 fucking years.

What reliable? Last time when he "fixed" everything and walked out CLEAR of the game, turned out that whole gang was killed 12 years later. This was when Mikey was perfectly fine.

Of course I'm not gonna say this is fucking God Tier level writing, but most of you brats claim this is shit writing because Mitchy isn't as strong as the people around him, which I say is BULLSHIT, the MC doesn't need to be strong for a fucking good story and that's what most of you are implying which is retarded on so many levels.

Whoa there, fancy pants, calling other people "brats" for stating their opinion is a bit edgy. People complaining about mc being weak in all compartments except "heart/spirit" and this is basicly his "fight for me" card throught whole manga.

Who's to say that there was more deaths BEFORE he time jumped into the past. There's nothing implying less people died before he went back to the past, so this claim is irrelevant.

You what? There was explicitly stated that was only 2 casualties in first chapter, Hina and her brother. As others was irrelevant to MC at that time - thus not counted as meaningful, thats logical. Now with every jump he caused deaths of more people he cared about, am I wrong?

Also, I don't see Mitchy killing Kisaki, he ain't that type of guy. More than likely Kisaki is also going to bow his head to Mitchy as well in later chapters.

Well, ofcourse, because dude who caused multiple deaths will bow down for reasons. Remember that we yet to know the REASON he wants his version of gang? There is few chances, that he fell for Hina and is jealous, that he wannabe mc after witnessing how mc saved Hina back in middleschool or some other reason alltogether.

I see this story as trying to teach readers that you don't need to be super strong or super smart to win in the end, if you have the heart to keep going forward, it'll work out.

Too bad this message is wrong 9/10 of times, guts only get you so far.

I don't need to see Mitchy fucking kick 10 guys ass by himself. I'd be more satisfied watching the people who respect him handle his business and he himself not give up when shit gets tough.

Good for you then, the thing is, in this genre there are far better written MC's and with power of knowing future he literally made so little progress in story that as of now it's questionable was it worth it?

 

[DonTheGod]

"What reliable? Last time when he "fixed" everything and walked out CLEAR of the game, turned out that whole gang was killed 12 years later. This was when Mikey was perfectly fine."

1. Chapter 144, the exact thing we was talking about, and which you called Vague. I also don't know what point your trying to make with the Gang dying when he went back to the future.

"Whoa there, fancy pants, calling other people "brats" for stating their opinion is a bit edgy. People complaining about mc being weak in all compartments except "heart/spirit" and this is basicly his "fight for me" card throught whole manga."

1. Your calling me edgy for stating my opinion on calling people Brats, how the hell that makes you any better?

"You what? There was explicitly stated that was only 2 casualties in first chapter, Hina and her brother. As others was irrelevant to MC at that time - thus not counted as meaningful, thats logical. Now with every jump he caused deaths of more people he cared about, am I wrong?"

1. Hina's brother never died, so this makes no sense.
2. You didn't mention anything about meaningful deaths, you just state "Dude in a pursuit of saving his ex girlfriend already caused more deaths than original future had." and the manga does show that when Mitchy first time jumped and partnered up with Hina's brother Baji was going to die so he did die in the original timeline as well, so Who is to say the others don't as well

"Well, ofcourse, because dude who caused multiple deaths will bow down for reasons. Remember that we yet to know the REASON he wants his version of gang? There is few chances, that he fell for Hina and is jealous, that he wannabe mc after witnessing how mc saved Hina back in middleschool or some other reason alltogether."

1. why the hell would Kisaki order Hina dead in every timeline if he wanted her?
2. How the hell does "he wannabe mc after witnessing how mc saved Hina back in middle school" even count as a reason?

"Too bad this message is wrong 9/10 of times, guts only get you so far."

1. Then you obviously haven't been reading the manga, you must had been skimming.

"Good for you then, the thing is, in this genre there are far better written MC's and with power of knowing future he literally made so little progress in story that as of now it's questionable was it worth it?"

1. I already said this isn't God Tier writing.
2. It's already implied that Kisaki can time jump too, of course you gonna make little progress if somebody keeps erasing your work while your gone.
3. It will be when you finally get the ending you want.

 

[Big_Boss]

@DonTheGod

1. Chapter 144, the exact thing we was talking about, and which you called Vague. I also don't know what point your trying to make with the Gang dying when he went back to the future.

Last time he was in future, was after he left gang and Mikey was "fine" - yet he came 12 years in future and died. So how him looking "fine" now makes you belive anything is fine?

1. Your calling me edgy for stating my opinion on calling people Brats, how the hell that makes you any better?

Never implied that I'm better.

1. Hina's brother never died, so this makes no sense.

Literally first chapter, you forgot or speedreading?

Spoiler

2. You didn't mention anything about meaningful deaths, you just state "Dude in a pursuit of saving his ex girlfriend already caused more deaths than original future had." and the manga does show that when Mitchy first time jumped and partnered up with Hina's brother Baji was going to die so he did die in the original timeline as well, so Who is to say the others don't as well

In 1st future nothing is stated about deaths other than Hina and her brother, and none of that relevant to MC. Yet every time he goes and gets another meaningful connection it goes to shit in future.

1. why the hell would Kisaki order Hina dead in every timeline if he wanted her?
2. How the hell does "he wannabe mc after witnessing how mc saved Hina back in middle school" even count as a reason?

Those are just suggestions for example.

1. Then you obviously haven't been reading the manga, you must had been skimming.

You forgot that he literally knows future, how much of heart is that counts as? Because Beji or Emma or his bestfriend vice-captain had guts, and all died in past or present.

2. It's already implied that Kisaki can time jump too, of course you gonna make little progress if somebody keeps erasing your work while your gone.

Funny that mc knew how Kisaki was root of problem like 40 chapters in or so, and never took any actions against him.

 

[DonTheGod]

@Big_Boss

"Last time he was in future, was after he left gang and Mikey was "fine" - yet he came 12 years in future and died. So how him looking "fine" now makes you belive anything is fine?"

1. Because this isn't a time skip, its just a view to what events is to come after the battle. Meaning that this isn't a 12 year time skip and Mitchy is still in his younger body, this also means Kisaki plan failed.

"Never implied that I'm better."

Then don't make an ass out of your self by judging others if you know your no better.

"Literally first chapter, you forgot or speedreading?"

Forgot

"In 1st future nothing is stated about deaths other than Hina and her brother, and none of that relevant to MC. Yet every time he goes and gets another meaningful connection it goes to shit in future."

1. This does nothing to combat what you quoted from me, you just regurgitated what you said previously. I'm specifically arguing that the same amount or more could had died in his first timeline, I even gave an example with Baji.

"Those are just suggestions for example."

Those were some bad examples.

"You forgot that he literally knows future, how much of heart is that counts as? Because Beji or Emma or his bestfriend vice-captain had guts, and all died in past or present."

I didn't forget, I just know that the future always changes. Something that you obviously forgot. Also if you want to use that educated guess he had about Emma being dead as a example, it wouldn't count. He figured that out on his own after being in deep thought for who knows how long, the future told him nothing obvious about her dying.

"Funny that mc knew how Kisaki was root of problem like 40 chapters in or so, and never took any actions against him."

What did you want him to do? Find him and murder him? That would be retarded story telling. Imagine Mitchy just finding Kisaki in the middle of nowhere and just stabbing him while he is still a kid. That would be a shit end to a main antagonist. A guy who did all this has to die with a bang, and I highly doubt Mitchy could had done anything even with the info of Kisaki being the main problem.

 

[Big_Boss]

@DonTheGod

What did you want him to do? Find him and murder him? That would be retarded story telling. Imagine Mitchy just finding Kisaki in the middle of nowhere and just stabbing him while he is still a kid. That would be a shit end to a main antagonist. A guy who did all this has to die with a bang, and I highly doubt Mitchy could had done anything even with the info of Kisaki being the main problem.

Much better if he bends over after loosing in a battle where he presumable should dominate because of 4 to 1 numbers of people. Yeah, there is only so much excusing people can make for this to not look dumb, oh well.

 

[DonTheGod]

@Big_Boss

"Much better if he bends over after loosing in a battle where he presumable should dominate because of 4 to 1 numbers of people. Yeah, there is only so much excusing people can make for this to not look dumb, oh well"

Never said he was going to bend over after this fight, (Pause) we also don't know what happens later on, he might not have the number advantage anymore, and if they do would it even matter? Mikey and Draken had been shown to handle hundreds of goons on their own, and there has been a occasion of Mikey just beating the leader and calling the fight over. Same shit might happen here, instead it's with Mitchy.

 

[Meybi]

cucked on that fucking cliff ending

 

[Ophious]

I didnt think shed be involved.... this leaves a bad after taste....

 

[AtlasBR]

Is this manga on Hiatus or something?

 

[Syanindita]

@AtlasBR : no there is the raw currently in chapter 151

 

[DonTheGod]

It's been 3 weeks, pretty wierd that we didn't get an update yet.

 

[Akikime]

Where did you get the raw chapter? Are you in pause due to coronavirus epidemy? Do you need more translator to help you?

 

[JohnnyBallsack]

Seriously MC, do something, stop standing around when shit goes down, Baji and Emma couldve both been saved.