Tonari no Onee-san ga Suki - Vol. 3 Ch. 36.5 - Omake: About Tasuku's Sister

[WinterknightX]

Is this series bi - weekly ?

 

[Tcof]

I always think she is the youngest, not expect she is same age as Shia

 

[stupid_chris]

Is this series bi - weekly ?

yes, unless there's a break week

 

[gronkle]

Developing your emotional inteligence takes time

Not to go too far off on a tangent, but this is one of the reasons I hate the idea of "emotional intelligence". What you're really referring to is successful socialisation and the ability to read and appropriately respond to nonverbal cues. If there was such a thing as "emotional intelligence" in the same way intelligence works, someone's response to socialisation would be entirely down to innate factors outside of intelligence. It would not be subject to development outside of normal brain development, as intelligence isn't a skill, it is the limiting factor to understanding and applying knowledge. In reality, especially if you've ever worked with children, you find that appropriate responses to nonverbal cues and social situations track well with overall intelligence, with autistics being outliers. Even there, higher IQ autistics can better 'fake' or build a working mental model of normal social interaction than lower IQ autistics.

Tasaku comes across as mildly autistic, with his blunt honesty and commendable earnestness, and clear lack of appropriate affect. I see him as developing a mental model for social interactions, making up for a lack of 'common sense' in that regard, and perhaps due to a poorly constructed mental self-image making it difficult for him to put himself in others' shoes.

Or, perhaps, I'm reading into this way too hard because I'm filling out a questionnaire for my daughter's autism referral (she got it from me).

 

[Tymo]

Not to go too far off on a tangent, but this is one of the reasons I hate the idea of "emotional intelligence". What you're really referring to is successful socialisation and the ability to read and appropriately respond to nonverbal cues. If there was such a thing as "emotional intelligence" in the same way intelligence works, someone's response to socialisation would be entirely down to innate factors outside of intelligence. It would not be subject to development outside of normal brain development, as intelligence isn't a skill, it is the limiting factor to understanding and applying knowledge. In reality, especially if you've ever worked with children, you find that appropriate responses to nonverbal cues and social situations track well with overall intelligence, with autistics being outliers. Even there, higher IQ autistics can better 'fake' or build a working mental model of normal social interaction than lower IQ autistics.

Tasaku comes across as mildly autistic, with his blunt honesty and commendable earnestness, and clear lack of appropriate affect. I see him as developing a mental model for social interactions, making up for a lack of 'common sense' in that regard, and perhaps due to a poorly constructed mental self-image making it difficult for him to put himself in others' shoes.

Or, perhaps, I'm reading into this way too hard because I'm filling out a questionnaire for my daughter's autism referral (she got it from me).

I think it's the second option, Tasuku socialization problems are pretty common for someone in middle school.

 

[Kani1337]

Not to go too far off on a tangent, but this is one of the reasons I hate the idea of "emotional intelligence". What you're really referring to is successful socialisation and the ability to read and appropriately respond to nonverbal cues. If there was such a thing as "emotional intelligence" in the same way intelligence works, someone's response to socialisation would be entirely down to innate factors outside of intelligence. It would not be subject to development outside of normal brain development, as intelligence isn't a skill, it is the limiting factor to understanding and applying knowledge. In reality, especially if you've ever worked with children, you find that appropriate responses to nonverbal cues and social situations track well with overall intelligence, with autistics being outliers. Even there, higher IQ autistics can better 'fake' or build a working mental model of normal social interaction than lower IQ autistics.

I did not expect to get taught something in a manga discussion about some dude crushing on the older girl next door but here we are. I am nowhere near as knowledgable as you in the matter and some light reading indicated that there's been plenty of criticism regarding the matter that I was unaware of. I see what you mean that putting the label of intelligence on it would mean that this would be out of your control but this is something that can be learned and hones so inteligence feels like the wrong term for it indeed. But what do I know.

Tasaku comes across as mildly autistic, with his blunt honesty and commendable earnestness, and clear lack of appropriate affect. I see him as developing a mental model for social interactions, making up for a lack of 'common sense' in that regard, and perhaps due to a poorly constructed mental self-image making it difficult for him to put himself in others' shoes.

Or, perhaps, I'm reading into this way too hard

While interesting to read I can't help but think that you are indeed, as you said, reading a bit to much into it. To me, he falls into what is now referred as Chuuni or Chunibyo which can have very different ways of presenting itself but it roughly describes a time period in adolescence where one wants to be special (In Tasakus case that would be his immediate jump to everyone being in love with him at first positive feedback) and also lacks self-awareness of their actions regarding their surroundings (thats where the blunt honesty comes in). There is a moment where something just clicks and we get how we cringe we were before but that pin drops at different times for everyone.
I've said some things that should've for sure been run through a filter and I've also misinterpreted niceties for romantic intent. Nothing he does seem that out there BUT if you can pinpoint specific things I'm absolutely all ears because this is INDEED an interesting take.

 

[Hicleric]

Can really see the family resemblance in the crossed-eyeballs here

 

[gronkle]

I think it's the second option, Tasuku socialization problems are pretty common for someone in middle school.

I think you're probably right, although his blunted affect is pretty noticeable.

To me, he falls into what is now referred as Chuuni or Chunibyo which can have very different ways of presenting itself but it roughly describes a time period in adolescence where one wants to be special (In Tasakus case that would be his immediate jump to everyone being in love with him at first positive feedback) and also lacks self-awareness of their actions regarding their surroundings (thats where the blunt honesty comes in).

I agree to a point, lack of self -insight and -awareness is an unfortunate part of many a boy's adolescence, but as I said, I keep coming back to his pointedly blunted affect. Also now that I think about it, he has problems with appropriate interjections and controlling the volume of his voice. Neither are explained away entirely by any anxiousness, because we can see his thoughts when he is anxious. It's probably just the author alluding to a general awkwardness, but I can't shake the possibility of intentionally showing autistic traits now that I've thought of it. Would be interesting to know the inspiration for his character, anyway.

 

[bubdy]

supprised shia is best shia