Touge Oni - Vol. 7 Ch. 29 - Metamorphosis

[Panino]

Aaaand they started playing Godus. Neat.

I want this game to be real. Please I beg all of the big game companies just once make my hyperniche game desire 🙏

Peter Molyneux seems to have heard you in the '90s and '00s.

Populous and Black & White, from way before Molydeux had become an evil demon.
So nostalgic.

 

[cryum]

Nope, she is dying because of the after effect of the wishes (she bear all the sin/karma/consequences for all the wish she granted) as not all the wish she granted is good. Its because, she will grant any wish (good/bad) as long as they climb the mountain by their own feet.

That seems like a very specific thing that I don't recall happening anywhere in the previous chapters, and doesn't seem connected to modifying humanity's mantra to save her.

 

[MilkDrinker]

Funky chapter
Using videogame mechanics to explain The Kami is clever

 

[coyote_vdb]

Thanks for the translation. Not sure I really like where this is going but let's keep reading for now.

 

[BalrogDeMorgoth]

That's a neat concept.

Thanks for the chapter.

 

[BobBob]

Miyo, the human: Killing people is bad and wrong!
Miyo, The Simultaneously Merciful and Cruel Water-Splitting Great Dragon Kami of Victory and Fate and Wisdom and Farming and Culture: PUNY GRASS GO THUMP

I wonder when it'll click for her.

 

[Panino]

I wonder when it'll click for her.

Its just a game.

 

[Gouwyak]

Lmao that kami Miyo. Thanks for the translation!

 

[LordofAlI]

Ngl I want to play this game now

 

[fight2live]

since Mio is one of the main characters, i expect she will win. but how will she overcome 3x strength difference? but if it goes the other way and she actually loses, what will happen next? it's equally intriguing either way

 

[Stickerken]

Cloud VM emulating a VR game based on pikmin sounds pretty dope ngl! And lol at Miyo becoming ashura.

 

[Luke_chase]

Am I the only one who instantly saw a boa constrictor eating an elephant on the last page

Spoiler

 

[sotokouya]

Am I the only one who instantly saw a boa constrictor eating an elephant on the last page

Spoiler

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whoa did you draw this? that's crazy for a mangadex comment

 

[musicfreak12]

Susano is wielding a steel sword and she's still using a bone sword. If you've been playing civ before, you know that you are fucked with capital F

 

[sssr]

Nope, she is dying because of the after effect of the wishes (she bear all the sin/karma/consequences for all the wish she granted) as not all the wish she granted is good. Its because, she will grant any wish (good/bad) as long as they climb the mountain by their own feet.

Karma doesn't exist in this setting, although Hitokotonushi's predicament is somewhat karmic like you said. Basically, the kami are all in their twilight because the humans' mantra that originally summoned the kami into our physical world had turned into a curse because the humans themselves have grown up and started to recognize the kami as the eldritch otherwordly monstrosities that they were. This created a deadly feedback loop for the kami. Like this chapter describes, the appearance and "being" of the kami is just a representation of the mantra put upon them by their human worshippers. When humans became aware of what kami actually were, the awareness itself reshaped the kami into that negative portrayal humans now had. Humans thought they were scary eldritch beings, so they started turning into exactly that, losing their original selves. This effectively turned the mantra into a malediction for the kami. As the mantra turned into a malediction, it essentially became a cancer that started unmaking the kami in our world. To avoid losing their own mantra, the core of their identities, the kami withdrew from our world.

For the kunitsugami, tied to the land, this meant retreating to the world of the dead, where they could rely on the mantra of their already-dead worshippers who still loved them and saw them as they were in their glory days. Some of them, like Kippuuson (Miyo's ancestral village kami), can sort of cheat through human sacrifice, continually replenishing their "stash" of dead worshippers. Most can't or simply won't.

For the amatsugami, beings from the lofty conceptual dimension, there is more freedom. As manifestations of philosophical concepts, they retreated to their original realm of the philosophical. This is depicted in the manga as something resembling the Platonic realm of forms. In this way, the Amatsugami did not lose their powers like the kunitsugami did.

Hitokotonushi occupied a special place as she was a kunitsugami with the conceptual power of the amatsugami. She was the goddess of words. As such, her powers are conceptual and independent of her worshippers, and she could stay in the human realm longer than the rest of her kin. However, even she isn't free of the malediction. Her current situation, trapped on the moon, is basically a compromise. She is still technically living in the physical world, but is removed from human society in a place where the malediction can't fully unmake her. She is the last real link between the kami and our physical world. Currently she is the only known kami with a physical body other than crowdfunded Shotano'o.

 

[Luke_chase]

whoa did you draw this? that's crazy for a mangadex comment

Nahhh it’s page from the little prince (pretty sure the manga was referencing it??)

 

[sleepyknight]

Karma doesn't exist in this setting, although Hitokotonushi's predicament is somewhat karmic like you said. Basically, the kami are all in their twilight because the humans' mantra that originally summoned the kami into our physical world had turned into a curse because the humans themselves have grown up and started to recognize the kami as the eldritch otherwordly monstrosities that they were. This created a deadly feedback loop for the kami. Like this chapter describes, the appearance and "being" of the kami is just a representation of the mantra put upon them by their human worshippers. When humans became aware of what kami actually were, the awareness itself reshaped the kami into that negative portrayal humans now had. Humans thought they were scary eldritch beings, so they started turning into exactly that, losing their original selves. This effectively turned the mantra into a malediction for the kami. As the mantra turned into a malediction, it essentially became a cancer that started unmaking the kami in our world. To avoid losing their own mantra, the core of their identities, the kami withdrew from our world.

For the kunitsugami, tied to the land, this meant retreating to the world of the dead, where they could rely on the mantra of their already-dead worshippers who still loved them and saw them as they were in their glory days. Some of them, like Kippuuson (Miyo's ancestral village kami), can sort of cheat through human sacrifice, continually replenishing their "stash" of dead worshippers. Most can't or simply won't.

For the amatsugami, beings from the lofty conceptual dimension, there is more freedom. As manifestations of philosophical concepts, they retreated to their original realm of the philosophical. This is depicted in the manga as something resembling the Platonic realm of forms. In this way, the Amatsugami did not lose their powers like the kunitsugami did.

Hitokotonushi occupied a special place as she was a kunitsugami with the conceptual power of the amatsugami. She was the goddess of words. As such, her powers are conceptual and independent of her worshippers, and she could stay in the human realm longer than the rest of her kin. However, even she isn't free of the malediction. Her current situation, trapped on the moon, is basically a compromise. She is still technically living in the physical world, but is removed from human society in a place where the malediction can't fully unmake her. She is the last real link between the kami and our physical world. Currently she is the only known kami with a physical body other than crowdfunded Shotano'o.

my opinion on what was happening was that, as kami are embodiments of human wishes and desires, they encapsulated both the desires themselves and the fear of consequences from the fulfillment of their desires. hence why destroying humans sentience would cure hitokotonushi. simple, imminently fulfillable desires such as those for food, mates, and shelter, dont warrant fear of reprisal as much as more complex ones, as seen in the case of the slaves. this would tie into the oni in that they are representative of humans growing awareness and fear of their underlying bestial nature. the kami can no more change human nature than they can change their own, henced the fixity of the oni curse.
this also applies to susano'o, as the god of war he is the embodiement of both the spoils of victory and the ruin and desolation which accompanies loss. as he has no concept of morality its simple for him to recognize that he gains followers with fortune and misfortune alike, thus allowing him to essentially break the game, turning his every fickle act into one which warrants further praise. this concept is somewhat alien to the human miyo, who views praise as something to be gained by good deeds, whereas in reality misfortune garners just as much reward for gods as fortune

 

[nonexistent696969]

pvp

 

[Trap_masters]

I wonder how Miyo will beat Susanoo next chapter, gotta be through some video game glitch/bug or something, right?

 

[zoecohen]

Thanks as always for the phenomenal, top-notch scanlation!