Tsuihou Sareta Teihen Shoku "Touzoku" wa Game Chishiki de Musousuru. Issho ni Shoukan Sareta Sensei mo Hazure Job Dattakedo Kouritsuteki ni Nariagari…

[xEternalSoul]

Buddy never learnt about wikis.

Wikis are made by people you know? If nobody wants to share, you get no wiki

 

[GipoScribantino]

Wikis are made by people you know? If nobody wants to share, you get no wiki

There's wikis for games with 10 players total, you will never convince me a game called "masterpiece" has none, not even if you give the yakuza my home address and the prime minister of Japan publically bows down asking me to suspend my disbelief.
(Also I was just being sarcastic.)

 

[xEternalSoul]

There's wikis for games with 10 players total, you will never convince me a game called "masterpiece" has none, not even if you give the yakuza my home address and the prime minister of Japan publically bows down asking me to suspend my disbelief.
(Also I was just being sarcastic.)

And there are also games with thousands of players but still lack a wiki, it really depends on the game. Even if there might be one, in a competitive game, a hidden mechanic that's not listed in the game skill descriptions might be secretly monopolized by people in the know. Just sayin

 

[finalm]

And there are also games with thousands of players but still lack a wiki, it really depends on the game. Even if there might be one, in a competitive game, a hidden mechanic that's not listed in the game skill descriptions might be secretly monopolized by people in the know. Just sayin

Can you think of a single example of a game where such "monopolizing" was present for any reasonable amount of time (i.e. more than a few days)?

 

[xEternalSoul]

Can you think of a single example of a game where such "monopolizing" was present for any reasonable amount of time (i.e. more than a few days)?

I'm not a runescape player but google research showed that there was a mechanic where being skulled increase drop rates of rare loot from revenants and it was kept hidden from patch notes until 8 months later where a mod finally revealed the secret in a tweet after someone complained to that same mod about the drop rates. Going by reddit comments on all the threads on this topic, very few people knew about this secret. I'm sure there are other examples if you are willing to search for it.

Edit: Another example -> https://automaton-media.com/en/news/20220114-8505/

 

[Junomano]

Unusual for just a teach a student to be summoned, at least to me
let's see how it goes

 

[finalm]

I'm not a runescape player but google research showed that there was a mechanic where being skulled increase drop rates of rare loot from revenants and it was kept hidden from patch notes until 8 months later where a mod finally revealed the secret in a tweet after someone complained to that same mod about the drop rates. Going by reddit comments on all the threads on this topic, very few people knew about this secret. I'm sure there are other examples if you are willing to search for it.

Edit: Another example -> https://automaton-media.com/en/news/20220114-8505/

My bad for not mentioning it, but single player games especially where speedruns are concerned really shouldn't count - it's hard to talk about monopolizing when there's no interaction between people, save on message boards. Most speedruns in particular are all about finding and reliably replicating obscure bugs in the game, so there's little chance something would be known unless someone decides to explicitly share it.

The Runescape one is interesting. I suppose drop mechanics are opaque enough that it could be the case here. I was imagining something that is a visible advantage to others, like the ability to do more damage for an unknown reason etc. - hard to imagine that kind of thing would stay hidden for long.

 

[xEternalSoul]

My bad for not mentioning it, but single player games especially where speedruns are concerned really shouldn't count - it's hard to talk about monopolizing when there's no interaction between people, save on message boards. Most speedruns in particular are all about finding and reliably replicating obscure bugs in the game, so there's little chance something would be known unless someone decides to explicitly share it.

The Runescape one is interesting. I suppose drop mechanics are opaque enough that it could be the case here. I was imagining something that is a visible advantage to others, like the ability to do more damage for an unknown reason etc. - hard to imagine that kind of thing would stay hidden for long.

What about this one then? https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/lfg-addon-free-epics-timers/281941/2
War of Warcraft strategy where you mind control mobs to use their buffs on you that directly counters the raid difficulty feature making it for an extremely easy run. I think it fits very well in this case since it's a game mechanic thats gatekept by veteran guilds. It was hidden enough that people are complaining about it in that thread.

 

[dokidoki]

Bruh that teach is HOT but like WTF DO YOU MEAN THERE'S NO ROMANCE BETWEEN him and the teacher like WTF man

They might as well had teleported just him and a Bro or a Male teacher, like why make her hot/MC tity grab
if you ain't gona tap her

 

[finalm]

What about this one then? https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/lfg-addon-free-epics-timers/281941/2
War of Warcraft strategy where you mind control mobs to use their buffs on you that directly counters the raid difficulty feature making it for an extremely easy run. I think it fits very well in this case since it's a game mechanic thats gatekept by veteran guilds. It was hidden enough that people are complaining about it in that thread.

Nice find, but they seem to be complaining that it trivializes the raids, not that it was kept secret. The argument is that one side wants it gone and the other doesn't, citing that it has been there for a long time, just not widely known.

 

[xEternalSoul]

Nice find, but they seem to be complaining that it trivializes the raids, not that it was kept secret. The argument is that one side wants it gone and the other doesn't, citing that it has been there for a long time, just not widely known.

Isn't not 'widely known' equivalent to keeping things secret/hidden? I don't understand your criteria? Anyway, what's the point you are trying to make though? I believe I have found enough examples proving that people do gatekeep beneficial game mechanics and it's simply idealistic to believe that people won't be tempted to do so. It's just human nature especially if there is any form of competitiveness in the game. It's really not that hard to search for other examples yourself.

 

[finalm]

Isn't not 'widely known' equivalent to keeping things secret/hidden? I don't understand your criteria? Anyway, what's the point you are trying to make though? I believe I have found enough examples proving that people do gatekeep beneficial game mechanics and it's simply idealistic to believe that people won't be tempted to do so. It's just human nature especially if there is any form of competitiveness in the game. It's really not that hard to search for other examples yourself.

Relax, I'm not trying to move the goalposts. Just commenting on it. You already found more than I expected.