Ueno-kun wa Kaihatsuzumi - Ch. 63 - Tsubomi and Ueno
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I haven't really read or fully understood the story, but if his gf is his parallel, him with his bullies who he can't move on from, and her with her ex, then 3 possible futures exist:
1. They both move on, him from his bullies, her from her ex (Probably least likely, no story conflict, conflict is born from difference of interests)
2. No one moves on, both regress (Self explanatory)
3. One but not the other moves on, either he moves on, and she regresses which then prompts him to down-spiral, or she moves on be he doesn't, so he cheats/doesn't believe he cheated/was forced into it, his past is fully revealed, as her past was (If I understand this, he knows of her past?)*1
*1 I find this to be most likely (3.), he could even be blackmailed into keeping his cheating secret, which then blows up further, and he loses his tennis club connection/respect, I'd like to imagine the tennis club will then be reversed, that he won't be welcome but his bullies will, which then prompts the bullies to realise further how much they cared for him, that between him and the tennis club, they choose him, which is again, opposite of him, I'm not sure where the story would go after that, maybe during that a bully, blonde one, apologises to him, then later the last one
I also feel like he's most attracted to the black hair bully, she's the most sane one, and he can pity her somewhat, I'm kind of hoping he says no to the black hair, but the blonde does whatever she wants again, and that's the cheating, so he doesn't cheat with black hair, but is, well, raped, by the blonde, and that's the catalyst for the breakup
Dating 101, someone with a past, with an ex, will always be more troublesome than one without*3, even if they broke things amicably, they're liable to compare, best case scenario it was a purely mutual breakup (which is very neutral, I find it hard to imagine any positives, maybe they "grew" during the relationship, but I wouldn't trust anyone who said they "grew" from a relationship*2), worst case ex was abusive (trauma) or they can't move on (compare)(if they broke things due to complications, very likely they won't move on, as they never consciously "agreed", it was circumstance, not an agreement)
*2 People can't be fixed/move on overnight nor can you forcibly "grow" someone, anything "of that person" is "of that person", therapy does this, in they say you have to "seek help to be helped", really they're just being very passive on the reality, you have to fix/manage your own issues, many past philosophers agree with this, Marcus Aurelius strongly talks about managing your mind, calming it, and trying to be the best person you can be so you can be a positive memory to your loved ones, main point being if someone is going to grow, it's purely personal, and a relationship may provide an environment for that, at most it's an indirect result of it, not the goal, nobody says "be in 10 relationships" in a self help book, anyway, I see this often of people (women) "falling out of love", if the man doesn't share that sentiment, then that's purely on her, and the lack of accountability for her own issues is troubling, a man can't force a woman to fall back in love with him, often times it's due to the woman emasculating the man, "choreplay", I feel it's due to gender preconceptions, she's never thought to reproach those to see him more as a human than a man, she wants a man to care for her when she's sick, but never thought to give him a flower, which, people talked about it before, the only times men get flowers is when they're dead
There's the 3-6 month limerence period in the beginning of relationships, and 7-8 year marriage mark, liable to break relationships/marriages once over/reached, so, I guess just be wary of those timelines
*3 Given equal odds it's a 50/50 if they're at "fault" for an ugly breakup, between a 4 time divorcee and someone who's never dated (cannot be at fault), it's obvious
I've got a bit more insane thought, but, I'll boil it down to "perverse removal of male autonomy" women enjoy the thought of "no man can say no to me", being desired, I feel this fuels many things, in the end it's self-worth, I can write more, I'll leave it at that though
1. They both move on, him from his bullies, her from her ex (Probably least likely, no story conflict, conflict is born from difference of interests)
2. No one moves on, both regress (Self explanatory)
3. One but not the other moves on, either he moves on, and she regresses which then prompts him to down-spiral, or she moves on be he doesn't, so he cheats/doesn't believe he cheated/was forced into it, his past is fully revealed, as her past was (If I understand this, he knows of her past?)*1
*1 I find this to be most likely (3.), he could even be blackmailed into keeping his cheating secret, which then blows up further, and he loses his tennis club connection/respect, I'd like to imagine the tennis club will then be reversed, that he won't be welcome but his bullies will, which then prompts the bullies to realise further how much they cared for him, that between him and the tennis club, they choose him, which is again, opposite of him, I'm not sure where the story would go after that, maybe during that a bully, blonde one, apologises to him, then later the last one
I also feel like he's most attracted to the black hair bully, she's the most sane one, and he can pity her somewhat, I'm kind of hoping he says no to the black hair, but the blonde does whatever she wants again, and that's the cheating, so he doesn't cheat with black hair, but is, well, raped, by the blonde, and that's the catalyst for the breakup
Dating 101, someone with a past, with an ex, will always be more troublesome than one without*3, even if they broke things amicably, they're liable to compare, best case scenario it was a purely mutual breakup (which is very neutral, I find it hard to imagine any positives, maybe they "grew" during the relationship, but I wouldn't trust anyone who said they "grew" from a relationship*2), worst case ex was abusive (trauma) or they can't move on (compare)(if they broke things due to complications, very likely they won't move on, as they never consciously "agreed", it was circumstance, not an agreement)
*2 People can't be fixed/move on overnight nor can you forcibly "grow" someone, anything "of that person" is "of that person", therapy does this, in they say you have to "seek help to be helped", really they're just being very passive on the reality, you have to fix/manage your own issues, many past philosophers agree with this, Marcus Aurelius strongly talks about managing your mind, calming it, and trying to be the best person you can be so you can be a positive memory to your loved ones, main point being if someone is going to grow, it's purely personal, and a relationship may provide an environment for that, at most it's an indirect result of it, not the goal, nobody says "be in 10 relationships" in a self help book, anyway, I see this often of people (women) "falling out of love", if the man doesn't share that sentiment, then that's purely on her, and the lack of accountability for her own issues is troubling, a man can't force a woman to fall back in love with him, often times it's due to the woman emasculating the man, "choreplay", I feel it's due to gender preconceptions, she's never thought to reproach those to see him more as a human than a man, she wants a man to care for her when she's sick, but never thought to give him a flower, which, people talked about it before, the only times men get flowers is when they're dead
There's the 3-6 month limerence period in the beginning of relationships, and 7-8 year marriage mark, liable to break relationships/marriages once over/reached, so, I guess just be wary of those timelines
*3 Given equal odds it's a 50/50 if they're at "fault" for an ugly breakup, between a 4 time divorcee and someone who's never dated (cannot be at fault), it's obvious
I've got a bit more insane thought, but, I'll boil it down to "perverse removal of male autonomy" women enjoy the thought of "no man can say no to me", being desired, I feel this fuels many things, in the end it's self-worth, I can write more, I'll leave it at that though
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Worse… it could probably end up being something like Chiaki seeing them or catching them doing something and then she blackmails Ueno.
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Let's start over and be normal friends, Ueno. we can start with sex practice which is what any ordinary friend would do right? 
It's just practice so it isn't cheating. What if I also get consent from your gf ???
Also, Tsubomi redemption arc complete?
Is it time to start going through the other two bullies having their own redemption and then becoming an "ordinary" friend?
It's just practice so it isn't cheating. What if I also get consent from your gf ???
Also, Tsubomi redemption arc complete?
Is it time to start going through the other two bullies having their own redemption and then becoming an "ordinary" friend?
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He needs to lock the fuck in and stop his gooning once and for all if he wants to stay with his gf bro. I’m praying next chapter he resists his fleshy temptations😭🙏🏼
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Here's how I'll torture you david
Nah since the story is ending they will be fine, the bully girls (who are also worse girls) lost
Or this is a Tsubomi trap to blackmail him.
Or he will be caught cheating right after he does it with Tsubomi and immediately gets dumped.
Or he and Manaka will try to do it and he won’t be able to get it up. Then she will be so embarrassed and/or frustrated that she’ll dump him on the spot.
Or the bullying photos leak and after getting dumped he ends the bullies, ends himself, or both.
Honestly there’s a million ways for his new relationship to explode and only one way for it to succeed, which is to be honest with her and himself, but I don’t see that happening.
It will be fine, I don't see them breaking up now
