Uesugi-kun wa Onnanoko wo Yametai - Ch. 17

[CelestialYuki25]

Guys is this him realising he's into yuri! (Iino)

 

[erintesden]

Man Eito is really being a dick and hypocrite here. It's fine to view Iiono as a friend, but unlike him who has been wallowing in is self pity when it comes to Kei, Iiono actually had the resolve to confess to Eito knowing he would say no. Heck, even his "rival" Noel confessed.

You are kinda interpretting things in an odd way.
Why is eito an hypocrite? For not caring much about a random girl that supposedly likes him but:
1 - He doesn't like her back
2 - He doesn't even know her
3 - That girl didn't even deliver the card herself, but sent a friend (who just happens to be the girl Eito likes) outright making Eito feel annoyed.
Thats a big bag of awkwardness there. And because the girl didn't even confess in person now (not to look like an asshole further) Eito is forced to either send his own letter with a rejection or find the girl himself to reject her face to face.
And that whole thing about Eito feelings towards Kei is a completely different business than the topic now.

so i am happy Kei called him out on it by saying Iiono is a good person to imply to Eito that he should not dismiss someone's feelings just because it doesn't align with his

So what? You are making it sound as if Eito was a bigot and had some kind of problem about the way she looks, or as if they were discussing about something and he wasn't respecting this nerdy girl opinion.
But no. She likes him, and he doesn't likes her back. Thats it. What else can he do?
Just because she is a nice person and her feelings pure, doesn't mean he is forced to date her or something.

 

[Luke_chase]

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[zymosan99]

I was expecting the good old misunderstanding trope of him thinking that Uesugi made the letter.

very glad that didn't happen

 

[MTScotty]

You are kinda interpretting things in an odd way.
Why is eito an hypocrite? For not caring much about a random girl that supposedly likes him but:
1 - He doesn't like her back
2 - He doesn't even know her
3 - That girl didn't even deliver the card herself, but sent a friend (who just happens to be the girl Eito likes) outright making Eito feel annoyed.
Thats a big bag of awkwardness there. And because the girl didn't even confess in person now (not to look like an asshole further) Eito is forced to either send his own letter with a rejection or find the girl himself to reject her face to face.
And that whole thing about Eito feelings towards Kei is a completely different business than the topic now.

So what? You are making it sound as if Eito was a bigot and had some kind of problem about the way she looks, or as if they were discussing about something and he wasn't respecting this nerdy girl opinion.
But no. She likes him, and he doesn't likes her back. Thats it. What else can he do?
Just because she is a nice person and her feelings pure, doesn't mean he is forced to date her or something.

My problem was never because he didn't like Iiono back. He has every to feel that way

The problem is he dismisses her (or anyone)'s real feelings, but when it comes to his feelings towards Kei, he chickens out. It's hypocritical and callous

Iiono knew she was going to get rejected, but still had the courage to lay it bare to give her some closure. She gave it to Kei not because she didn't want to meet him, but for two two reasons.

1. Eito is not the most approachable guy.

2. The whole class (with the exception of Noel) already consider Eito and Kei a couple due to past chapters, so it was Iiono subtly saying to Kei "i won't get in your way"

Speaking of Noel, that is another one. Noel, despite knowing Kei's dense, still chose to confess (albeit in a roundabout way)

That's why Kei had to remind Eito that Iiono "is a good person." It's to remind him that he can still reject her, but just keep in mind that her feelings are just as valid as his

 

[erintesden]

The problem is he dismisses her (or anyone)'s real feelings, but when it comes to his feelings towards Kei, he chickens out. It's hypocritical and callous

That's why Kei had to remind Eito that Iiono "is a good person." It's to remind him that he can still reject her, but just keep in mind that her feelings are just as valid as his

I'm not sure if I would call him a hypocrite, but yeah I get your point better now. If compared, Iiono was braver, when with Eito who has done little regarding his feelings for Kei.
However, I feel like this chapter speaks less badly of him and more well of Kei. After all, it's like someone else said: some months ago, Kei would have totally supported the way Eito acted.
And, unlike some replies here implied, I don't like to rationalize it as Kei being more empathic just because she is a girl now, but the fact Kei is simply in the right place to see the other side of the coin and she also befriended Iiono. Anyone would feel conflicted with that scenario having your best friend rejecting the feelings of your new friend, even if it is "normal" because your best friend doesn't really know how much of a nice girl your new friend is.
In any case, I wont defend Eito too much because I feel like there's some huge drama building up for the future and the guy will probably fuck it up big.
Im referring to that stuff from the first chapter that has been partially buried by now.
How not only Kei and Eito distanced from Noel. Which supposedly was just because girls and boys don't play together... But we saw how Eito seems to dislike Noel and unless Im remembering wrong, I think we don't know yet the specifics...?
Besides, the obvious possibility that Eito was already into Kei when he was a boy and Noel too (not sure if we have confirmation of this either, or if Noel only started liking Kei romantically after the change), making him jealous.

 

[MTScotty]

I'm not sure if I would call him a hypocrite, but yeah I get your point better now. If compared, Iiono was braver, when with Eito who has done little regarding his feelings for Kei.
However, I feel like this chapter speaks less badly of him and more well of Kei. After all, it's like someone else said: some months ago, Kei would have totally supported the way Eito acted.
And, unlike some replies here implied, I don't like to rationalize it as Kei being more empathic just because she is a girl now, but the fact Kei is simply in the right place to see the other side of the coin and she also befriended Iiono. Anyone would feel conflicted with that scenario having your best friend rejecting the feelings of your new friend, even if it is "normal" because your best friend doesn't really know how much of a nice girl your new friend is.
In any case, I wont defend Eito too much because I feel like there's some huge drama building up for the future and the guy will probably fuck it up big.
Im referring to that stuff from the first chapter that has been partially buried by now.
How not only Kei and Eito distanced from Noel. Which supposedly was just because girls and boys don't play together... But we saw how Eito seems to dislike Noel and unless Im remembering wrong, I think we don't know yet the specifics...?
Besides, the obvious possibility that Eito was already into Kei when he was a boy and Noel too (not sure if we have confirmation of this either, or if Noel only started liking Kei romantically after the change), making him jealous.

Now that I think about it, "hypocrite" is too strong of a word, so i apologize. I should have went with something like "rude."

I agree with your points about this chapter. This is not a takedown of Eito's character, but more so a building block to Kei's development as a character.

As he is developing new experiences and people now that he is a girl, he is subtly fighting with his past experiences, and Eito is one of them. He feels conflicted because he knows he has a one track mind, so he already knew the outcome. Therefore, by saying saying that Inio "is a good person," Kei is trying to make Eito put sugar on the pain that's to come.

I definitely think Eito will fuck up really bad (gender or personal wise), causing a falling out. my tiny prediction that it will make Kei focus and hang out more with Noel than Eito. I hope this is the case cause besides the chapter at the mall and the confession at the field trip, she hasn't got a lot of development at all

It was confirmed in one of the chapters that Noel had a crush on Kei for a long time. Eito is a lot more difficult, and you have to read in-between the lines a bit

I think cause of the friction between comes down is caused by three things

1. Kei being dense, but also having attachment issues, wishing him and his friends would come back together

2. Noel putting other people's happiness above her. When Kei became a girl, she put aside her feelings, so Kei can feel accepted and happy in the new body. Even her confession is very roundabout

3. Eito, who also helps Kei, feeling like he is the only one that understands Kei's plight and pain. This is caused by his subtle crush on Kei

 

[aard_bei]

Noel route 6 ft under and the mangaka keeps on digging

 

[Thrembs]

I love that we are getting detailed, spirited debate about a manga.
About THIS manga.

 

[GambierBay]

And this right here forever separates uesugi from men forever. She has grown far more able to see things from her friends perspective and her level of care for them as genuine friends has increased significantly.

This story is well into shoujo territory now and I for one welcome it and agree with her on every point :3

 

[Thrembs]

And this right here forever separates uesugi from men forever. She has grown far more able to see things from her friends perspective and her level of care for them as genuine friends has increased significantly.

This story is well into shoujo territory now and I for one welcome it and agree with her on every point :3

Correct.
This author needs to make evbmore this that are unconventional, because branching out has worked out

 

[Thrembs]

Correct.
This author needs to make evbmore this that are unconventional, because branching out has worked out

I was so high when I wrote that.

 

[gothgril666]

Maybe more people in Japan would go to the shrines if they knew it could magically change your sex. >.<

 

[MidnighTea]

Maybe more people in Japan would go to the shrines if they knew it could magically change your sex. >.<

Heck, forget all the effort Japanese prefectures put into the tourism industry with random sites and food. Just say "this shrine can change your sex" and suddenly they'll need to quintuple the amount of hotels in town.

 

[osmium1010]

Guys is this him realising he's into yuri! (Iino)

She has more of a chance with Kei than Noel does at this point

 

[Thrembs]

She has more of a chance with Kei than Noel does at this point

Everyone has a chance with Kei, it seems.
Sweet for Kei.

 

[manabi]

I mean, What can Eito even do about it? I guess he came off as dismissive but he barely knows the girl to begin with. How else is he supposed to react to that?

I think it's not too important how Eito reacts now. The important thing is that Uesugi's changing by realizing how Iino feels.

Well, why did she never talked to him? If I had to confess, atleast I would try to be a friend of the person I like

Did you not struggle to ask someone to be your girlfriend/boyfriend when you were in middle school or high school? It's not that easy for most people, just writing the letter and asking someone else to deliver it is more courage than a lot of kids that age can muster. She seems to be quite shy and Eito is popular, so she's probably never had a chance to interact with him much at all, much less become friends with him. If she has had a chance, she probably got all flustered and didn't know what to say.

 

[sandyy_sandy]

Don't do it, buying nvidia or even any graphics card this season its going to be one of you biggest mistake in your life

 

[PhilPhedora]

In the spirit of this manga lets reverse the genders: if eito was a girl and was getting love letters from guys she didn't know, would we hold it against her that she acts dismissive or that she doesn't personally respond to each one? That's a wild standard to hold someone to