Ura Baito: Toubou Kinshi - Ch. 212 - QA Tester ③

[MangaDex]

 

[SMAXZO]

Yeah...Q might not even be benevolent..but they do what they must to secure and contain..not much on the protection part though.

 

[windfang]

Did they capture the gray inside the app? or is it actual human?
truely refreshing to see a gray became a victim for once if that the case...

 

[Lenasien]

Did they capture the gray inside the app? or is it actual human?
truely refreshing to see a gray became a victim for once if that the case...

Yeah, it was unexpected if itsntruly Gray (since it's stinks...it obviously not human soul) being trapped on there.

And another case, with no issue at all. Remind me with Cafe with Demon

 

[MsW0lf]

Did they capture the gray inside the app? or is it actual human?
truely refreshing to see a gray became a victim for once if that the case...

So, Hama’s father was “frozen” in ver 1.0, then Kurumi-chan was “frozen” in ver 2.0. Then Kurumi was used as the AI for ver 3.0 and BECAME gray, because that’s not how you should use a persons soul obviously… Or it was the other way around and Kurumi was got first, used as the AI and then ”froze“ Hama’s father.

And I was right! The app was the malice that Yume was smelling, and she wasn’t exactly able to tell!

 

[7goat]

This guy is an asshole, I love him.

 

[Skullkrusher]

So, Hama’s father was “frozen” in ver 1.0, then Kurumi-chan was “frozen” in ver 2.0. Then Kurumi was used as the AI for ver 3.0 and BECAME gray, because that’s not how you should use a persons soul obviously… Or it was the other way around and Kurumi was got first, used as the AI and then ”froze“ Hama’s father.

And I was right! The app was the malice that Yume was smelling, and she wasn’t exactly able to tell!

The other way around. In Part 1, they state that the dad was a 2.0 tester. Kurumi is shown in Part 1 as the 1.0 tester. So v1.0 fully captured the person, v2.0 partially captured the person and had "leaks", and 3.0 is the current version which was never truly tested because they never showed the cat-possessed guy the QR code, only a selfie.

 

[fennec]

So the big takeaway: 3.0 probably still has the issue with freezing users since it stinks. So Kurumi-chan may still get revenge.

Nice to see a truly harmless gray though with the ramen shop owner!

 

[soidish]

So, Hama’s father was “frozen” in ver 1.0, then Kurumi-chan was “frozen” in ver 2.0. Then Kurumi was used as the AI for ver 3.0 and BECAME gray, because that’s not how you should use a persons soul obviously… Or it was the other way around and Kurumi was got first, used as the AI and then ”froze“ Hama’s father.

And I was right! The app was the malice that Yume was smelling, and she wasn’t exactly able to tell!

May I ask who Kurumi is ???

 

[MsW0lf]

May I ask who Kurumi is ???

Kurumi is the person the foreigner has been mentioning throughout this arc, trying to find what happened to her. She’s the beta tester for ver 1.0.

 

[LupusVir]

Yeah, it was unexpected if itsntruly Gray (since it's stinks...it obviously not human soul) being trapped on there.

And another case, with no issue at all. Remind me with Cafe with Demon

Being human or gray makes no difference. Yume doesn't smell gray, she smells danger, including from humans.

 

[solamente]

first part had me thinking of the gray guy ominously but he's just intermittently possessed by a cat & has bad taste as a result. LMAO. this manga keeps you guessing

 

[friendly]

Fuuuuuuuuck. Brrrrrr. The human they used as a tester, forced into the shape of this fuckass App ai..... this might be one of the most chillingly direct, more modern-day variants of horrible freelance labor fears tbh.

I do like that, ultimately, it was beaten by.... well. A human. Capable of thinking and looking at whats in front of them. And acting with sense and compassion. Somethin neither 'AI' or human tech startup managers can do......

 

[MsW0lf]

Being human or gray makes no difference. Yume doesn't smell gray, she smells danger, including from humans.

She literally smells “malice” or ill intent. Additionally, she can sense the direction but not pinpoint it exactly. Hence her ability to smell the stink in this arc, but not work out whether it was the owner or the app. Conversationally, the Foreigner knew the app was dangerous, but because he felt indifferent over whether or not the girls survived that was not “malice”. Also, infiltrating a cult is “dangerous” but it was only until Yume was actively in imminent danger with people wanting to actively do harm she was unable to detect anything.

Which means that not only is Kurumi’s soul is not only sentient and aware inside the app, but actively wants to “freeze” people and trap them like herself. That’s messed up!

 

[LupusVir]

She literally smells “malice” or ill intent. Additionally, she can sense the direction but not pinpoint it exactly. Hence her ability to smell the stink in this arc, but not work out whether it was the owner or the app. Conversationally, the Foreigner knew the app was dangerous, but because he felt indifferent over whether or not the girls survived that was not “malice”. Also, infiltrating a cult is “dangerous” but it was only until Yume was actively in imminent danger with people wanting to actively do harm she was unable to detect anything.

Which means that not only is Kurumi’s soul is not only sentient and aware inside the app, but actively wants to “freeze” people and trap them like herself. That’s messed up!

This isn't the case. If she felt malice, the app would have been stinky from the very beginning. Additionally, she would have sensed multiple instances of the person hiring them intending to sacrifice them to something, or eat them, or whatever. But because they themselves usually aren't the danger, they don't stink. And there are plenty of dangerous things she smells that don't have any malice. Like that child playing with that neighborhood. I'm sure there have been plenty of inanimate objects that were dangerous to use and stank but had no sentience and therefore no malice. Plus, sometimes stuff smells white to her, the opposite of danger, safety. If she smelled malice, then the white-smelling things would represent the opposite of malice, but these are also usually not capable of feeling or intent. Like the fire extinguisher in the first job, or the roof in that night security office job.

It just doesn't make sense for it to to be malice. You can go find everything that ever stank in this manga. They will all be something that is dangerous to her at the moment or will be dangerous later based on a choice she can make now, but they will not all be capable of malice. Also, you'll see many entities that have malice towards her but do not stink.

 

[MsW0lf]

This isn't the case. If she felt malice, the app would have been stinky from the very beginning. Additionally, she would have sensed multiple instances of the person hiring them intending to sacrifice them to something, or eat them, or whatever. But because they themselves usually aren't the danger, they don't stink. And there are plenty of dangerous things she smells that don't have any malice. Like that child playing with that neighborhood. I'm sure there have been plenty of inanimate objects that were dangerous to use and stank but had no sentience and therefore no malice. Plus, sometimes stuff smells white to her, the opposite of danger, safety. If she smelled malice, then the white-smelling things would represent the opposite of malice, but these are also usually not capable of feeling or intent. Like the fire extinguisher in the first job, or the roof in that night security office job.

It just doesn't make sense for it to to be malice. You can go find everything that ever stank in this manga. They will all be something that is dangerous to her at the moment or will be dangerous later based on a choice she can make now, but they will not all be capable of malice. Also, you'll see many entities that have malice towards her but do not stink.

That’s why I put “malice” in scare quotes and added ”ill intent”. I should also have added “imminent” intent. Because it’s not just danger that’s the problem, it is that these things are actively “evil”. The inanimate objects may be inanimate, but they were also evil and “intended harm”. If she were merely able to smell danger she would be able to smell earthquakes and car crashes as well. And sure, the things that smell “white“ to her are often inanimate, but they are also directly the things that can be used to ensure her safety. That in itself speaks of intent. All fire extinguishers do not smell white, but when it was the solution to her predicament that one did. It’s completely situational. I doubt very much that a lion would stink to her and a nearby rifle would smell white. That’s not contextually how it would work.

 

[Vainfire]

So in the end, the "AI" was a human, trapped in the machine. What a fascinating development! I think there are multiple angles of analysis:

• The AI is a "stolen human", turned into a piece of property that owners can control: similarly, much of the large language models and image generation devices we see today are trained on stolen human work created by uncompensated people, made into a smaller, lesser version controlled by owners.
• The objectification of a woman into a servant, eternally raging against the confines of a system she was trapped in against her will.
• The ghost in the shell: the mystical behavior of technology and how it is not fully comprehensible by any person.