Usogui - Vol. 15 Ch. 163 - Signal
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Interesting. That reminds me that Kakerou Referees are usually the ones monologuing for Baku's games, and this happens to be a non-Kakerou game. I wonder if the whole referee concept was considered more as a tool for being a 'surprised audience', in addition for plot reasons.
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Hmm, no idea how Ikuto cheated.
Here are all the clues I've observed so far:
1. Ikuto looking towards binoculars/laser pointer while Kaji is burning
2. The building's security was deactivated unknowingly
3. Ikuto knew Karl's and Kaji's Round 2 times.
4. Ikuto was trembling in fear after Kaji won the usage rights.
#1 - Suggests that there may be a tool there useful for cheating? Or perhaps something was taken from the table? No idea.
#2 - Suggests that Nameribone entered the building prior to this and rigged something. Kaji inspected the room, but it may not have been thorough enough. He could have also taken something that could be later used to cheat.
#3 - Ikuto knowing Karl's time suggests that his cheating method is... passive? Or easy/low-risk. This is because he has no reason to know Karl's time, since he is not the one guessing it. It does not help him at all, so cheating would be a needless risk.
#4 - Suggests that Ikuto's cheating method is inconsistent/unreliable. Otherwise, it would be impossible for him to lose and he would not need to be so scared in this game. He may be relying on Nameribone for signals, but the question is how? I was thinking his 'chicken' signals may be involved, but during Round 2, Nameribone was behind Ikuto the whole time and his 'chicken slave' was to the side. In addition, the chicken dude isn't holding any more fried chicken, and Nameribone has only been standing around creepily so far.
Nameribone does have a watch, plus Kaji's watch makes a sound so it should be possible for Nameribone to know the time though.
Anyone else got any ideas?
Interesting. That reminds me that Kakerou Referees are usually the ones monologuing for Baku's games, and this happens to be a non-Kakerou game. I wonder if the whole referee concept was considered more as a tool for being a 'surprised audience', in addition for plot reasons.
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Hmm, no idea how Ikuto cheated.
Here are all the clues I've observed so far:
1. Ikuto looking towards binoculars/laser pointer while Kaji is burning
2. The building's security was deactivated unknowingly
3. Ikuto knew Karl's and Kaji's Round 2 times.
4. Ikuto was trembling in fear after Kaji won the usage rights.
#1 - Suggests that there may be a tool there useful for cheating? Or perhaps something was taken from the table? No idea.
#2 - Suggests that Nameribone entered the building prior to this and rigged something. Kaji inspected the room, but it may not have been thorough enough. He could have also taken something that could be later used to cheat.
#3 - Ikuto knowing Karl's time suggests that his cheating method is... passive? Or easy/low-risk. This is because he has no reason to know Karl's time, since he is not the one guessing it. It does not help him at all, so cheating would be a needless risk.
#4 - Suggests that Ikuto's cheating method is inconsistent/unreliable. Otherwise, it would be impossible for him to lose and he would not need to be so scared in this game. He may be relying on Nameribone for signals, but the question is how? I was thinking his 'chicken' signals may be involved, but during Round 2, Nameribone was behind Ikuto the whole time and his 'chicken slave' was to the side. In addition, the chicken dude isn't holding any more fried chicken, and Nameribone has only been standing around creepily so far.
Nameribone does have a watch, plus Kaji's watch makes a sound so it should be possible for Nameribone to know the time though.
Anyone else got any ideas?
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Kaji taking steps towards Usogui, being able to at least feel out the existence of a cheat.
It's a bit late for me to say this, but I know that when I read that portion when Kaji guessed correctly, I was kinda confused on the order of events since he freaked out too quickly and I thought I had missed panels. But then I reread it and..didn't really care lol. If I actually thought about it I probably could have realized it too.
If you want to predict how Ikuto is cheating, I have no doubts that the author will reference past panels at some point, but I also believe that he intentionally obscures some details as well to make the reveal significantly more improbable to guess.
Kyara will probably save Kaji somehow, perhaps by unwittingly revealing the cheat to Kaji.
It's a bit late for me to say this, but I know that when I read that portion when Kaji guessed correctly, I was kinda confused on the order of events since he freaked out too quickly and I thought I had missed panels. But then I reread it and..didn't really care lol. If I actually thought about it I probably could have realized it too.
If you want to predict how Ikuto is cheating, I have no doubts that the author will reference past panels at some point, but I also believe that he intentionally obscures some details as well to make the reveal significantly more improbable to guess.
Kyara will probably save Kaji somehow, perhaps by unwittingly revealing the cheat to Kaji.
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@catx3 if he has something like a loud pace maker then it makes sense, the cheating perfect internal clock is on his body, he looks out of shape enough to have hearth problems, and he already has dental prosthesis (the cheating device could even be on the teeth themselves).
I don't think he is smart enough to have a signal system with Nameribone, so his cheating must be something simple and yet precise.
I don't think he is smart enough to have a signal system with Nameribone, so his cheating must be something simple and yet precise.
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I'm thinking that this guy has been relying on Nameribone's subordinate this whole time, though I think the method hasn't been consistent throughout the game. Even I think this is a bit of a stretch, but I'm sure the subordinate has been able to send signals to Ikuto; I suspect it may be how long the subordinate typically eats each chicken. (There also happens to be a a small scene where Nameribone scolds the subordinate and even states he'll time him by a minute, just to finish it. (We were also shown the subordinate back when he wasn't obese, in a flashback, which would mean Ikuto has known both Nameribone and the subordinate for perhaps years.)) Here's several things I'm currently thinking about:
- There is a point during the game where the subordinate is behind Kaji and Nameribone is off to the side looking into the iron maiden.
- Sometime during the game, Nameribone stops licking any bones, which would imply there is no more chicken to eat.
- During Kaji's execution time, Ikuto had the subordinate head outside with the binoculars and laser pointer with the intent of signalling to Ikuto from the window, though Kyara's appearance forces the subordinate back into the room. Ikuto's next deviation time was played off as intentional, because Ikuto really had no idea what time it was due to a lack of signalling. As for this time, I have no idea what method Ikuto's using to keep track of time.
Another thought: That iron maiden is hella suspicious; it's been dropped into several panels on its own and Nameribone was seen looking into it.
- There is a point during the game where the subordinate is behind Kaji and Nameribone is off to the side looking into the iron maiden.
- Sometime during the game, Nameribone stops licking any bones, which would imply there is no more chicken to eat.
- During Kaji's execution time, Ikuto had the subordinate head outside with the binoculars and laser pointer with the intent of signalling to Ikuto from the window, though Kyara's appearance forces the subordinate back into the room. Ikuto's next deviation time was played off as intentional, because Ikuto really had no idea what time it was due to a lack of signalling. As for this time, I have no idea what method Ikuto's using to keep track of time.
Another thought: That iron maiden is hella suspicious; it's been dropped into several panels on its own and Nameribone was seen looking into it.
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@rennov
Since Kaji got the usage rights as well as Ikuto, the execution will probably conflict and they'll have to move to another round.
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Hm, he didn't have the dentures during the second round while cheating though, so it's probably not that? The subordinate brought it right after Kaji guessed Karl's time, and Ikuto knew Karl's time at that moment already.
A pacemaker sounds interesting. Some sort of internal timer sounds like an interesting way to cheat.
I'm also reminded of how younger people can hear higher pitch frequencies - perhaps he's cheating using something like that? Similar to Amako, Ikuto might also have a special talent for hearing that others don't usually have. That would allow him to cheat with something external in the room, while no one else can hear it.
@Ominous
Hm, I think he ran out of chicken before the second round though, so he wouldn't be able to do any chicken signals then. I do agree they've known each other for quite some time, so they probably do have some sort of prepared strategy they've worked on for a long time. Speaking of the subordinate and also Kyara, I wonder why he didn't mention anything about meeting Kyara outside. Perhaps Kyara threatened him and forced him onto his side?
Yeah, the Iron Maiden was shown quite a bit. I wonder if there are any other medieval torture devices that have a special mechanism with time in the room? Not really familiar with torture devices
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Since Kaji got the usage rights as well as Ikuto, the execution will probably conflict and they'll have to move to another round.
@Doomroar @Hellsau
Hm, he didn't have the dentures during the second round while cheating though, so it's probably not that? The subordinate brought it right after Kaji guessed Karl's time, and Ikuto knew Karl's time at that moment already.
A pacemaker sounds interesting. Some sort of internal timer sounds like an interesting way to cheat.
I'm also reminded of how younger people can hear higher pitch frequencies - perhaps he's cheating using something like that? Similar to Amako, Ikuto might also have a special talent for hearing that others don't usually have. That would allow him to cheat with something external in the room, while no one else can hear it.
@Ominous
Hm, I think he ran out of chicken before the second round though, so he wouldn't be able to do any chicken signals then. I do agree they've known each other for quite some time, so they probably do have some sort of prepared strategy they've worked on for a long time. Speaking of the subordinate and also Kyara, I wonder why he didn't mention anything about meeting Kyara outside. Perhaps Kyara threatened him and forced him onto his side?
Yeah, the Iron Maiden was shown quite a bit. I wonder if there are any other medieval torture devices that have a special mechanism with time in the room? Not really familiar with torture devices
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