Usogui - Vol. 22 Ch. 234 - 13 Is...
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I like how all of the guesses are straightforward for the concept of the game, 11-10-12-14, but the reasoning behind them is so advanced. It feels kinda funny to me.
I figure Baku is certain at this point that it's 13 because of his own bead count but, what did Nowa realize to let him understand what "Usogui chose"?
The only thing I can think of is that Baku was in fact lying about not knowing his bead count and was specifically luring Suteguma to pick a number with his words earlier. But if that were the case, then Baku would have won/lost on the first round since Suteguma is so good at reading him.
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I figure Baku is certain at this point that it's 13 because of his own bead count but, what did Nowa realize to let him understand what "Usogui chose"?
The only thing I can think of is that Baku was in fact lying about not knowing his bead count and was specifically luring Suteguma to pick a number with his words earlier. But if that were the case, then Baku would have won/lost on the first round since Suteguma is so good at reading him.
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I think the two are two different people. If I recall, Nowa's face is usually not shown when the teacher talks, and in the last chapter you can see that Nowa has a henchman pushing him up to a laptop another henchman brought in order for Nowa to see this chart. Part of this chapter is the introduction of the chart to prompt Nowa into looking at it before then realizing what Usogui did to guess 13, and why it's probably right.
That said, the teacher's occupation is probably not actually a teacher, but the reference toward them is definitely a tongue-in-check expression.
That said, the teacher's occupation is probably not actually a teacher, but the reference toward them is definitely a tongue-in-check expression.
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I think it's a bluff. Marco remembering the wrongly entered number, him running to the top to enter 13, all of it is a bluff just to see Suteguma's reaction.
Suteguma now thinks that Usogui knows that 8 is not correct. With that, not even he will be able to stay calm. Which is precisely Usogui's aim.
Suteguma now thinks that Usogui knows that 8 is not correct. With that, not even he will be able to stay calm. Which is precisely Usogui's aim.
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13 is the most probable value right now even as an outsider, so since Usogui knows the number of his beads it'd make sense for him to be even more certain than just because of probabilities. Anyway, as an outsider, I would say that I think Suteguma's number is either 4 or 5.
Surprisingly that doll was a signal from Marco and not from Ranko! That's really interesting. Also, the fact that not only did Marco make it down here after arguably facing 3 enemies, and without any additional injuries (!) makes the sleeping gas hypothesis even more likely for me, at the very least we know that a 1v3 fight did not happen, even in rage mode Marco can't beat all of them and come out unscathed.
So yeah, still not certain whether or not the 13 is a bluff or not, or the depth of Usogui's planning, so I'm looking forward to that reveal a lot!
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Surprisingly that doll was a signal from Marco and not from Ranko! That's really interesting. Also, the fact that not only did Marco make it down here after arguably facing 3 enemies, and without any additional injuries (!) makes the sleeping gas hypothesis even more likely for me, at the very least we know that a 1v3 fight did not happen, even in rage mode Marco can't beat all of them and come out unscathed.
So yeah, still not certain whether or not the 13 is a bluff or not, or the depth of Usogui's planning, so I'm looking forward to that reveal a lot!
Great job as always to Team Duwang; you guys are spoiling us with these insane daily releases! At this point I'll be super sad when the daily releases stop, so maybe you can tell us on the comment section of the last daily release that the next won't be daily? (Assuming the daily releases will eventually stop...) Otherwise I'll go crazy refreshing the page every 15 minutes after 24 hours have passed since the last chapter. Love you guys!
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Haha, this is the last daily release chapter for now. There will be at least a few days gap until the next batch.
Yeah, him managing to get through Leo and Hyougo so easily definitely supports the gas theory. However, he also obtained the '8' guess, which, if that wasn't a bluff/lie, then he must've heard it from Hyougo himself? In that case, Hyougo was awake and told it to Macro... did Baku pull something to threaten them to cooperate, somehow...? I can't imagine what it could be, though.
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Why he chose "13"
Haha, this is the last daily release chapter for now. There will be at least a few days gap until the next batch.
Yeah, him managing to get through Leo and Hyougo so easily definitely supports the gas theory. However, he also obtained the '8' guess, which, if that wasn't a bluff/lie, then he must've heard it from Hyougo himself? In that case, Hyougo was awake and told it to Macro... did Baku pull something to threaten them to cooperate, somehow...? I can't imagine what it could be, though.
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Why he chose "13"
Although it could still be a bluff, there is a scenario where 13 is actually a 100% confirmed guess for Baku at this point, based on the chart, which is what Nowa and Suteguma saw.
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Thanks for the heads up! Keep up the great work.
Of course, there are two scenarios where Usogui would be 100% sure of the answer being 13; however the thing that's bothering me is this: why would Usogui reveal it to Suteguma so easily? If it truly was one of those scenarios, all he had to do was silently tell Marco which number to enter and mislead Suteguma during the Dotty game or stall him, why is he deliberately giving him this information? The game isn't over yet as Usogui says, they haven't even played rock papers scissors, but if Usogui runs out of luck and loses that game, Suteguma might just kill him out of spite in the Dotty game simply by entering 13 before Marco gets the chance to enter the password at the top. Of course, if Marco succeeds before the round really starts then it'd be fine, but it seems like an unnecessary risk to me. Also yeah, the fact that Marco was somehow able to get the wrong password out of Hyougo suggests that there's more to what Usogui planned and had Marco do than just sleeping gas, but I can't really tell what that is right now.
I would not be surprised at all if this was a huge bait in order to get Suteguma to wrongly enter 13 once he gets the first turn, allowing Usogui to completely determine his real number from that. After all, how convenient would it be that Suteguma just happens to have one of the two out of the 4 numbers that would make Usogui's choice of 13 be a sure thing? This might not be over yet! Really exciting.
Thanks for the heads up! Keep up the great work.
Of course, there are two scenarios where Usogui would be 100% sure of the answer being 13; however the thing that's bothering me is this: why would Usogui reveal it to Suteguma so easily? If it truly was one of those scenarios, all he had to do was silently tell Marco which number to enter and mislead Suteguma during the Dotty game or stall him, why is he deliberately giving him this information? The game isn't over yet as Usogui says, they haven't even played rock papers scissors, but if Usogui runs out of luck and loses that game, Suteguma might just kill him out of spite in the Dotty game simply by entering 13 before Marco gets the chance to enter the password at the top. Of course, if Marco succeeds before the round really starts then it'd be fine, but it seems like an unnecessary risk to me. Also yeah, the fact that Marco was somehow able to get the wrong password out of Hyougo suggests that there's more to what Usogui planned and had Marco do than just sleeping gas, but I can't really tell what that is right now.
I would not be surprised at all if this was a huge bait in order to get Suteguma to wrongly enter 13 once he gets the first turn, allowing Usogui to completely determine his real number from that. After all, how convenient would it be that Suteguma just happens to have one of the two out of the 4 numbers that would make Usogui's choice of 13 be a sure thing? This might not be over yet! Really exciting.
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I don't think they need to play rock paper scissors again, if I recall correctly they didn't play it in the second round and Usogui just started first. I believe they're just continuing with Usogui being the first player in all rounds.
Yeah, him telling 13 to Suteguma seems like somewhat of a taunt or a bait. If I had to guess, the reason that he's playing the 3rd round of Dotty is to contain Suteguma in the room and/or kill him with blood? Limiting Suteguma's options as much as possible. Also, if the game ends and Baku is alone with Suteguma, Suteguma might just kill Baku/threaten him after the game, so it's better to deal with him here.
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No idea either. I assume it must have to do with Suteguma's crazy reading ability, which we don't really understand yet. I keep on thinking to the poker game, and trying to think about what kind of ability/mechanism would force or allow you to 'barely win' every hand... no ideas so far though.
edit: Hm, it could also have been Suteguma avoiding 13 so that he didn't reveal the answer to Usogui, assuming he read him correctly. Because even if he injected Usogui with blood, if Macro was outside, Usogui could've relayed the answer while dying and Macro could've beat Suteguma in entering the number.
I don't think they need to play rock paper scissors again, if I recall correctly they didn't play it in the second round and Usogui just started first. I believe they're just continuing with Usogui being the first player in all rounds.
Yeah, him telling 13 to Suteguma seems like somewhat of a taunt or a bait. If I had to guess, the reason that he's playing the 3rd round of Dotty is to contain Suteguma in the room and/or kill him with blood? Limiting Suteguma's options as much as possible. Also, if the game ends and Baku is alone with Suteguma, Suteguma might just kill Baku/threaten him after the game, so it's better to deal with him here.
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No idea either. I assume it must have to do with Suteguma's crazy reading ability, which we don't really understand yet. I keep on thinking to the poker game, and trying to think about what kind of ability/mechanism would force or allow you to 'barely win' every hand... no ideas so far though.
edit: Hm, it could also have been Suteguma avoiding 13 so that he didn't reveal the answer to Usogui, assuming he read him correctly. Because even if he injected Usogui with blood, if Macro was outside, Usogui could've relayed the answer while dying and Macro could've beat Suteguma in entering the number.
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Annoncing 13 like this is a bluff/bait and a great move by Usogui.
At this point Suteguma can only have between 4-7 beads. If he has 6 or 7 beads, 13 has a 100% chance of being correct, meaning he's fucked. However, if he has 4 or 5 beads, 13 has only 1/3 chance of being correct. Based on Suteguma's reaction Usogui can tell which of the two scenarios it is. And seeing Suteguma's reaction on the last page, unless he's acting, we can assume it is the second. Meaning Usogui just confirmed that 13 is in fact the correct password.
Usogui probably said to Marco something among these lines: "Go upstairs, get rid of Sideburns and Leo, come downstairs to me and no matter what I say to you, simply go up and wait for me there. "
With this move, Usogui not only confirmed that 8 was in fact the wrongly entered password, but also that 13 is the correct password. It was a gamble and it paid off. In worst case scenario, Suteguma would stay calm, meaning either 8 wasn't the wrongly entered password, or 13 isn't the correct password, or he read his bluff.
Annoncing 13 like this is a bluff/bait and a great move by Usogui.
At this point Suteguma can only have between 4-7 beads. If he has 6 or 7 beads, 13 has a 100% chance of being correct, meaning he's fucked. However, if he has 4 or 5 beads, 13 has only 1/3 chance of being correct. Based on Suteguma's reaction Usogui can tell which of the two scenarios it is. And seeing Suteguma's reaction on the last page, unless he's acting, we can assume it is the second. Meaning Usogui just confirmed that 13 is in fact the correct password.
Usogui probably said to Marco something among these lines: "Go upstairs, get rid of Sideburns and Leo, come downstairs to me and no matter what I say to you, simply go up and wait for me there. "
With this move, Usogui not only confirmed that 8 was in fact the wrongly entered password, but also that 13 is the correct password. It was a gamble and it paid off. In worst case scenario, Suteguma would stay calm, meaning either 8 wasn't the wrongly entered password, or 13 isn't the correct password, or he read his bluff.
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That's true. He was able to force the truth out of Suteguma.
One thing though, if Baku has 6 or 7 beads, then the probability of Suteguma having 7 or 6 is 100% (since he would've won/lost already if this wasn't the case). So it gives the '13' statement a lot of weight because Usogui himself said it. So if Usogui made this bluff in a split-second, and he actually doesn't have 6 or 7 (and is only making Suteguma think he does), then perhaps he is using this to narrow down the beads of Suteguma as you said. Since Suteguma believed this action/bait, he can eliminate 4 or 5, and perhaps Usogui might actually have 8,9, or 10 beads, since these are the counts that require Suteguma to have 6 or 7, but can't be confirmed 100% in one guess.
With this information, he really needs to end it here. Depending on Baku's guess and if it fails, Suteguma's chance will rise to 1/1 to 1/4.
That's true. He was able to force the truth out of Suteguma.
One thing though, if Baku has 6 or 7 beads, then the probability of Suteguma having 7 or 6 is 100% (since he would've won/lost already if this wasn't the case). So it gives the '13' statement a lot of weight because Usogui himself said it. So if Usogui made this bluff in a split-second, and he actually doesn't have 6 or 7 (and is only making Suteguma think he does), then perhaps he is using this to narrow down the beads of Suteguma as you said. Since Suteguma believed this action/bait, he can eliminate 4 or 5, and perhaps Usogui might actually have 8,9, or 10 beads, since these are the counts that require Suteguma to have 6 or 7, but can't be confirmed 100% in one guess.
With this information, he really needs to end it here. Depending on Baku's guess and if it fails, Suteguma's chance will rise to 1/1 to 1/4.
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Going back to the membership game for Suteguma, he apparently didn't win every hand, but did "rarely" lose. So that means his cheat, whatever it was, wasn't 100% victory.
That aside, I wonder what Baku's going to do at this point with the game. Will he continue the stall until it goes overtime and take the injection, or put in a different number from 13?
That aside, I wonder what Baku's going to do at this point with the game. Will he continue the stall until it goes overtime and take the injection, or put in a different number from 13?
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