Wazawai no Avalon - Ch. 55 - Class Competition 12: Protagonist

[MangaDex]

 

[gorore]

uuh so she really was just chilling back there and didn't even try to help when the lil sis was about to be murdered

 

[Rafalga]

uuh so she really was just chilling back there and didn't even try to help when the lil sis was about to be murdered

Because this past chapter is not in the story but they, for some reason, didn't change her presense as well. Now it doesn't make any sense.
In LN, imouto wipes the floor with that dude and Kaoru never gets involved because she simply can't. Dude is fucking lvl 22. He would cave her head in with his pinky. That's why this is fanfiction levels of an adaptation. Mangaka changed an essential part of the story and didn't bother to fix the follow ups accordingly. Level differences doesn't work this way in the main premise. Now i'm wondering how is he gonna explain some later events concerning power levels if a lvl 7 can withstand a blow from someone 15 levels higher.

 

[Acolytus]

Can someone murder that annoying fatso already?

 

[Akaptor]

I genuinely stopped reading isekai for so long but am I tripping that this manga has like exponentially gotten worse which started as soon as the MC found the other player. Like there's just so much baffling stupidity I don't even know where to begin I legit just skimmed

 

[spectacure]

Give it up to that old man bro

heard this isn’t faithful to the source material, it’s not good that the source material isn’t being adapted properly, but to be honest it’s still freaking W development, especially when I hear that lil sis just no diff the bad guys, in that case this is better

 

[theshet]

They really changed it up from what I am seeing others say. I low key hope that results in a reveal of MC power/ability to act more freely. Wanna see him do cool stuff

 

[Jakeh24]

I genuinely stopped reading isekai for so long but am I tripping that this manga has like exponentially gotten worse which started as soon as the MC found the other player. Like there's just so much baffling stupidity I don't even know where to begin I legit just skimmed

Yeahh this has started to stink the last 30 ish chapters, the mc is getting no character building but they're throwing all these other characters in

 

[Akaptor]

Yeahh this has started to stink the last 30 ish chapters, the mc is getting no character building but they're throwing all these other characters in

Yeah like I guess maybe the mangaka wants to be different and change the original source by making it less of a power isekai but introducing new characters and having your mc do absolutely nothing for the sake of "don't change the story" is terrible. The worse part is that the mangaka isn't doing anything new or different since either mangaka keeps with mc being dumb as hell or the generic "aha" moment for isekai mcs happens.

 

[Al_Azif]

wow, you arrived so late and just had to beat up some relatively weak guys, good job hero.

 

[Ucluk4]

Yeah like I guess maybe the mangaka wants to be different and change the original source by making it less of a power isekai but introducing new characters and having your mc do absolutely nothing for the sake of "don't change the story" is terrible. The worse part is that the mangaka isn't doing anything new or different since either mangaka keeps with mc being dumb as hell or the generic "aha" moment for isekai mcs happens.

it's from the same author and artist of the novel. i think the author want every medium have different story or it's another case of publisher meddling....

 

[Shamz]

For me theres a positive the story is bringing with comparing with what people are saying about the LN albeit annoying as fuck. Its dramatic and gives opportunity of growth for mc, imouto and Kaoru. But thats it.

 

[Jestured]

I really don't know what kind of story the author wants to write. It feels like the author wants to paint us a story of pathetic struggling cause it really is just constant L's after L's after every major plot point even when they get a "win". Like I get people love underdog stories but it doesn't feel very meaningful when we have the MC's side pulling his own feats.

I guess my complaint is the established pattern is the hero's party will forever doomed to be underdogging and failing at their major plot point only to be saved by random bullshit

 

[thomasce]

I really don't know what kind of story the author wants to write. It feels like the author wants to paint us a story of pathetic struggling cause it really is just constant L's after L's after every major plot point even when they get a "win". Like I get people love underdog stories but it doesn't feel very meaningful when we have the MC's side pulling his own feats.

I guess my complaint is the established pattern is the hero's party will forever doomed to be underdogging and failing at their major plot point only to be saved by random bullshit

The MC doesn't fail, it's just that it's a bit similar to Leon with Mobuseka. In the Mobuseka Leon wants to follow up the story, but things always go sour and when the events are almost certain to go to a bad ending he decides to interfere and save the day.
Here MC(Souta) actions area always justified later, here we can see he was right to not standing out because Tsukishima is sabotaging class E for reasons unknown (he interfered with Kariya and Suou) and he would be targeted if he decided to help them.
So what happens is that as opposed to Mobuseka, the heroines who are close to Souta who ends up saving the day. Here Imouto decided to help class E without her brother's permission and that attitude saved his classmates. (who knows what would have happened to the main heroines Kaoru and Sakurako, it's obvious they would get raped by that fatso).

So in short, Leon from Mobuseka resolves things directly while Souta solves the problems indirectly.

Spoiler: Kaoru and Souta

Here, Class E is going to lose but Souta manages to defeat that Giant Devil, but he gives it's magic stone to Tenma, he does this to not stand out, and also he thinks that losing the competition makes no difference to the story.
However, Tenma delivers the magic stone to the teachers and tell them it belongs to class E. Giving them enough points to win over Class D.
Because of this victory, it ends up lifting everyone's spirits, including Kaoru's who was looking sad and hopeless.
From here on, she changes her opinion of him definitively and acknowledges he's strong, but also she finds out he's hiding several things from her and she's now determined to find out the truth about him.

Also, in the novel, she no longer wants to cancel her marriage contract with him and instead feels a bit lonely without him (he's been constantly avoiding her despite several invitations to dive in the dungeon and spar together.)

 

[BurnerAccount69]

The MC doesn't fail, it's just that it's a bit similar to Leon with Mobuseka. In the Mobuseka Leon wants to follow up the story, but things always go sour and when the events are almost certain to go to a bad ending he decides to interfere and save the day.
Here MC(Souta) actions area always justified later, here we can see he was right to not standing out because Tsukishima is sabotaging class E for reasons unknown (he interfered with Kariya and Suou) and he would be targeted if he decided to help them.
So what happens is that as opposed to Mobuseka, the heroines who are close to Souta who ends up saving the day. Here Imouto decided to help class E without her brother's permission and that attitude saved his classmates. (who knows what would have happened to the main heroines Kaoru and Sakurako, it's obvious they would get raped by that fatso).

So in short, Leon from Mobuseka resolves things directly while Souta solves the problems indirectly.

Spoiler: Kaoru and Souta

Here, Class E is going to lose but Souta manages to defeat that Giant Devil, but he gives it's magic stone to Tenma, he does this to not stand out, and also he thinks that losing the competition makes no difference to the story.
However, Tenma delivers the magic stone to the teachers and tell them it belongs to class E. Giving them enough points to win over Class D.
Because of this victory, it ends up lifting everyone's spirits, including Kaoru's who was looking sad and hopeless.
From here on, she changes her opinion of him definitively and acknowledges he's strong, but also she finds out he's hiding several things from her and she's now determined to find out the truth about him.

Also, in the novel, she no longer wants to cancel her marriage contract with him and instead feels a bit lonely without him (he's been constantly avoiding her despite several invitations to dive in the dungeon and spar together.)

Yeah still not feeling it, I feel like others of this same genre is done much better. This one just feels like the authors coming up with ways to intentionally make it frustrating, but hey to each their own.

 

[mutsutakashi]

I feel that the manga adaptation kinda suck from the novel spoilers. Breaking power system like that is a big mistake.

Also, where do you guys read the novel, can I have the link ?

 

[Kambing]

So in short, Leon from Mobuseka resolves things directly while Souta solves the problems indirectly.

Spoiler: Kaoru and Souta

Here, Class E is going to lose but Souta manages to defeat that Giant Devil, but he gives it's magic stone to Tenma, he does this to not stand out, and also he thinks that losing the competition makes no difference to the story.
However, Tenma delivers the magic stone to the teachers and tell them it belongs to class E. Giving them enough points to win over Class D.
Because of this victory, it ends up lifting everyone's spirits, including Kaoru's who was looking sad and hopeless.
From here on, she changes her opinion of him definitively and acknowledges he's strong, but also she finds out he's hiding several things from her and she's now determined to find out the truth about him.

Also, in the novel, she no longer wants to cancel her marriage contract with him and instead feels a bit lonely without him (he's been constantly avoiding her despite several invitations to dive in the dungeon and spar together.)

Sooo, the actual difference between mobuseka is that this MC just got lucky things going in his favor?

 

[thomasce]

Sooo, the actual difference between mobuseka is that this MC just got lucky things going in his favor?

That's what it looks like to me, Luck and the heroines forcing him out of his passive behavior.

 

[Phantaminium]

The MC doesn't fail, [sic]

Comparing MC to Leon is doing Leon a huge disservice, Leon from the onset takes actions to set himself up so he won't get trampled by the rules of the world, the woman centric culture. He also takes advantage of game knowledge to ensure he has enough wealth and military might to decide what he wants to do going forward.

The issues with this MC are one, they seem to be vaguely having the original character meld into his mindset but it's also vague since that shouldn't be happening outside of certain moments. He also is trying to keep on track with a story that leads to his own destruction, he's also changed things but isn't then thinking hm I might as well not be a cuck at all times except for when the Author wants something he thinks is cool to happen.

The writing is just kind of ass, Isekai authors love exploring enforced hierarchy's that MC is always functionally outside or at the top of but doesn't like doing the leg work to justify MC having to struggle in a meaningful way, have self confidence issues in a realistic way or justify why he wouldn't utilise his knowledge and power. This seems to tip into the scale of he's genuinely trying to be a background character despite it being evident that things are changing because of peoples influence so the smartest way to go is control the flow of events yourself.

But like @Jestured said above the author wants both an underdog struggle and a functionally OP MC and allies that knows how to break this entire universe somehow pretending they wouldn't even when lives are in danger. Ass writing.

 

[thomasce]

Comparing MC to Leon is doing Leon a huge disservice, Leon from the onset takes actions to set himself up so he won't get trampled by the rules of the world, the woman centric culture. He also takes advantage of game knowledge to ensure he has enough wealth and military might to decide what he wants to do going forward.

The issues with this MC are one, they seem to be vaguely having the original character meld into his mindset but it's also vague since that shouldn't be happening outside of certain moments. He also is trying to keep on track with a story that leads to his own destruction, he's also changed things but isn't then thinking hm I might as well not be a cuck at all times except for when the Author wants something he thinks is cool to happen.

No, if you read in the beginning he's quite happy with that lifestyle. Until Zola wants to marry him off to an ugly noblewoman to have him killed off and get pension money.
He goes on an adventure and obtain Luxion, and still he doesn't want to change the plot nor interact with the main characters.
He decides to save Angelica because Marie rushed the story.
But even then he goes back to being passive, and he only manages to act when the Kingdom is about to get destroyed by the Principality.
The same trend happens in the Alzer's arc.
When he decides to act when Noelle is about to have a bad ending (she gets kidnapped by Loic and is about to be forced to marry him).
Only in the final part, he learns his lessons and starts doing things on his own.

The writing is just kind of ass, Isekai authors love exploring enforced hierarchy's that MC is always functionally outside or at the top of but doesn't like doing the leg work to justify MC having to struggle in a meaningful way, have self confidence issues in a realistic way or justify why he wouldn't utilise his knowledge and power.

That's the problem when the author justifies MC's actions later...

Spoiler: Spoiler

In the Novel after the competition arc. Kaoru is desperate to be strong and wants to reconcile with him.Souta still wants to stay away from her for no reason other than (can't change the plot, but we know the plot already changed).
However, it's justified because soon after Tsukishima chimps out and challenges one of the eight dragons to a duel and also decides to take control of the school and build a harem with heroines.
So Tuskishima starts being more aggressive on his flirting with Kaoru in an attempt to win her over.