Wombs - Vol. 5 Ch. 42.5 - EPILOGUE
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Real shame this series update schedule got fucked for me when Batoto died so I never got the last 10 chapters until I looked now.
Overall this manga is quite the experience. The author fell for the same old thing that gets every other mangaka ever which is the ending that goes on for waaaaaay too fucking long. Armelia shows up and fucks around then gets detained then comes back then gets hurt then shows up again. Like three times? In a single arc? C'mon. It's just such a shame because the start/mid portion of this manga were all slow burn sci-fi type stuff. I really dig the idea of the Coordinate Space and how it was incorporated since it's like this crazy 'is this reality or space' type shenanigans going on. Especially towards the end where they're just out of control flipping in and out of the two. It's also COMPLETELY unsurprising about the ending twist. One of them anyways - I suppose there are multiple ones. The one I'm speaking of is the truth behind the implants. The things that shocked me would have to be that the Government stepped in and essentially castrated the women until the age of 18 via vaccines that genetically fucked you up. The other being that post-implant of a Transfer Organ, you are 100% fucked later in life because the cells will eventually come back and kill you. I'm okay with both of these developments. It's an interesting way for the government to control the population to facilitate people to be willing to become the Transfer Soldiers (since you can't have a child), and that the foreign cells reawaken like a virus that can lay dormant for many years before becoming active again. It's very grounded in that sense despite the sci-fi elements.
The whole thing of them getting taken away at the end and forming the Neibass Crimson Tribe or whatever just felt like a huge filler/fluff chapter. Because it's like... what was the point overall of having that happen? They just agree to negotiate their lives from the Crimson Tribe and leave. And then that's the end of that. Almost no point to even having them show up. And Armelia just sort of dies. But that happens to a lot of the characters towards the end. The ending was further dampened by us being left almost entirely in the dark about the progress of the war and then it just coming to a sudden conclusion. It would've made more sense if both sides managed to negotiate peace terms rather than the other side giving up just because the transfer soldiers did one good assault. The finality of it was alright though. In the end the Military saw that the Transfer Soldiers were too good of a force to fully retire and give up on despite the morality of the situation, and history begins to repeat itself again.
I just have mixed feelings overall. There's a fuckton of good concepts here. And it's not as though the writing is entirely a mess. It's just that the pacing of the end was too fast and the content was bland when compared to everything else that came before it. Mostly that we had tons of character development leading up to it and then at the end all the characters seem to stop developing to just end the story. I can at least happily say there weren't any clear plotholes that I'd caught unlike 90%+ of other manga.
Overall this manga is quite the experience. The author fell for the same old thing that gets every other mangaka ever which is the ending that goes on for waaaaaay too fucking long. Armelia shows up and fucks around then gets detained then comes back then gets hurt then shows up again. Like three times? In a single arc? C'mon. It's just such a shame because the start/mid portion of this manga were all slow burn sci-fi type stuff. I really dig the idea of the Coordinate Space and how it was incorporated since it's like this crazy 'is this reality or space' type shenanigans going on. Especially towards the end where they're just out of control flipping in and out of the two. It's also COMPLETELY unsurprising about the ending twist. One of them anyways - I suppose there are multiple ones. The one I'm speaking of is the truth behind the implants. The things that shocked me would have to be that the Government stepped in and essentially castrated the women until the age of 18 via vaccines that genetically fucked you up. The other being that post-implant of a Transfer Organ, you are 100% fucked later in life because the cells will eventually come back and kill you. I'm okay with both of these developments. It's an interesting way for the government to control the population to facilitate people to be willing to become the Transfer Soldiers (since you can't have a child), and that the foreign cells reawaken like a virus that can lay dormant for many years before becoming active again. It's very grounded in that sense despite the sci-fi elements.
The whole thing of them getting taken away at the end and forming the Neibass Crimson Tribe or whatever just felt like a huge filler/fluff chapter. Because it's like... what was the point overall of having that happen? They just agree to negotiate their lives from the Crimson Tribe and leave. And then that's the end of that. Almost no point to even having them show up. And Armelia just sort of dies. But that happens to a lot of the characters towards the end. The ending was further dampened by us being left almost entirely in the dark about the progress of the war and then it just coming to a sudden conclusion. It would've made more sense if both sides managed to negotiate peace terms rather than the other side giving up just because the transfer soldiers did one good assault. The finality of it was alright though. In the end the Military saw that the Transfer Soldiers were too good of a force to fully retire and give up on despite the morality of the situation, and history begins to repeat itself again.
I just have mixed feelings overall. There's a fuckton of good concepts here. And it's not as though the writing is entirely a mess. It's just that the pacing of the end was too fast and the content was bland when compared to everything else that came before it. Mostly that we had tons of character development leading up to it and then at the end all the characters seem to stop developing to just end the story. I can at least happily say there weren't any clear plotholes that I'd caught unlike 90%+ of other manga.
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What I didn't understand were the motivation of the Seconds and the pan-human association.
Like, if they could just "move on", why they decided to be boggled in a 20 years long war of attrition? Why even choose that place, to begin with? And about the pan-ass, why would they even considered the Seconds' claims for more than a second?
The rest was fine; the ending was a bit rushed, with a couple of asspulls, but acceptable, all things considered.
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Old but replying: The one advantage of the first colonizers was how little understood the whole transfer concept was (even by themselves). The fact that the AI realized that it didnt know how far they could transfer and that now the cryo colony ships were in their sights made the entire situation untenable so it cut its losses and ran. And like the last chapter said, the AI doesnt care about the frozen colonizers as much as it cares about itself and possible retaliation by second colonizers if they woke up and realized the mistake even if they won the war in the end. That's why it completely scrubbed the records of the entire war and moved on so it could "live" after finishing its mission. The seconds themselves had no motivation or agency, just an AI programmed to find them a place to inhabit no matter the cost.
As for the pan-human association, they're probably dealing with the same scenario in a hundred planets so for them both sides have the same claim considering the alternative is usually genocide. Too many colony-less colonizers to deal with on the winning and losing sides. They are probably as powerless as the real world UN in a broader sense.
