Yarinaoshi Kizoku no Seinjinka Level Up - Vol. 2 Ch. 7

[MangaDex]

 

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

This XP system is ridiculous. It doesn't even allow him to fight monsters or genuinely bad people, hell it even punishes self defense.

 

[Locke_Smithy]

the translation this chapter lacks quality

 

[kciaar]

The system feels like it's from london given that you can't even defend yourself and even a mean thought towards someone clearly out for your life is not allowed.

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

He hurt that dude to show that the armor didn't work and to save another's life/protect them - plus he stopped that dude he hurt from seriously hurting another student, thus saving that dude's reputation in the process.
Despite doing all these good deeds... the MC still got penalised?

 

[Kireato]

This XP system is ridiculous. It doesn't even allow him to fight monsters or genuinely bad people, hell it even punishes self defense.

Well, in some cases, it really does seem ridiculous, but here, it wasn't self-defence. He has all the capacity to protect himself of harm without harming others through shields. It was entirely unnecessary to assault his opponent for his self-defence.

The loss of XP here is something that he should reflect on. He initially tried to show that the armor was flawed by taking someone's else attack, but that's putting himself in danger. Then he showed how easily he could break the armor by attacking, but he harmed someone. Finally, he broke the armour he was wearing to show how fragile it was before his attack. If he had started with that, he could have avoided this whole nonsense without harming anyone.

For the other cases, consider that he was a genuinely bad person who even let a demon possess him and that he is now given a chance to not commit the same mistakes. If he harms a bad person, he gives them no chance at redemption. The system is pushing him to be a saint, and that means responding to harm with creative levels of non violence (Much like Jesus advising to turn the other cheek).

I'm not sure exactly what monsters are, but perhaps they're mostly just animals who have magic. The thing is, humans are quite the invasive species of animals themselves who occupy and take over all habitats, so in our world, we have plenty of endangered species that we now need to protect even if they used to be dangerous for us (e.g. wolves). Perhaps even with monsters, coexistence is possible and that is what the system favours.

Of course, I, as anyone with common sense, do personally find the system's strict adherence to non violence to be absurd (I think meat is an important part of my diet and there's killing involved to obtain that meat), but I'm also no saint.

 

[Fiamma-kun]

Of course, I, as anyone with common sense, do personally find the system's strict adherence to non violence to be absurd (I think meat is an important part of my diet and there's killing involved to obtain that meat), but I'm also no saint.

I think the fact that the system doesnt overly punish him, is a way to make him think if its really worth to use violence or not.

 

[Robyn_Banks]

The system has always been more punishing than rewarding. I quite like that. Easy system stories get boring really quickly.
More importantly, it demonstrates how Selim has changed that he takes action even when the System would punish him because it's the right thing to do. If he were only willing to act because of system rewards, well, he has not really redeemed himself, has he? Selfishness was what got him into the mess in his last life. Trading the demon for the system is better, but it would be the same thing if that is all he did.

 

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

The system has always been more punishing than rewarding. I quite like that. Easy system stories get boring really quickly.
More importantly, it demonstrates how Selim has changed that he takes action even when the System would punish him because it's the right thing to do. If he were only willing to act because of system rewards, well, he has not really redeemed himself, has he? Selfishness was what got him into the mess in his last life. Trading the demon for the system is better, but it would be the same thing if that is all he did.

If you can't even fight demons or monsters without losing Xp, nor defend yourself. That's absurd.

 

[Robyn_Banks]

If you can't even fight demons or monsters without losing Xp, nor defend yourself. That's absurd.

Why do you think it should be reasonable? There are endless power fantasy systems. I prefer this.

 

[PurpleSPR]

Translation nit pic. Why are they being called "prince" here? The appropriate title would be "lord" or something in this context would it not?

 

[Civi]

The system wants to make him a healing saint to help the other characters. Though it seems like his magic is OP and I don't remember if the demons are resistant to magic so he might end up being the hero this time instead.

 

[sumipe]

Cuck system

 

[TenThousandWaspsInACoat]

Why do you think it should be reasonable? There are endless power fantasy systems. I prefer this.

Because if it's meant to be overall beneficial and something good, it should be reasonable. Right now it's a pure punishment system that would outright benefit the most evil people if others were stuck with it.

 

[Robyn_Banks]

Because if it's meant to be overall beneficial and something good, it should be reasonable. Right now it's a pure punishment system that would outright benefit the most evil people if others were stuck with it.

No? I genuinely cannot follow your thought process. It rewards him for being pure of mind when healing people and gives him healing powers. It punishes him when he's selfish and hurts people. It doesn't prevent shielding himself, only hurting others, which is what he did here.