Yuri Yuri Panic: Touto Sugiru Jian ga Hassei Shiteimasu! - Vol. 2 Ch. 12 - L.E.S.

[yanderecoverl]

I love her sister

 

[thewomanliest]

That’s a good point, but I still think it’s noteworthy to separate the idolizing love and the sexualizing love.

The implication is there but the motivation we have seen as of now is nothing strictly sexual, and knowing the author, there will be only vague implications, and whatever they do would be pretty insane, but also … for a lack of better word, pure-hearted.

there is a difference between idolizing someone and sexualizing them, and the manga is definitely leaning more toward this over-the-top, obsessive-but-“pure-hearted” vibe instead of anything explicit.

but on the same token, that doesn’t erase the framing. you can say “she’s not motivated by anything sexual,” and maybe that’s true in canon, but it still uses tropes and aesthetics that are often sexualized in the genre. so even if her intent is pure-hearted, the presentation is doing something else alongside it.

and honestly, that’s kind of the whole issue, the story wants to play with a fetish-coded setup while also insisting it’s innocent. those two things can coexist, but pretending the implication disappears just because the character is written as eccentric or well-meaning is kind of naive.

so yeah, i get the distinction you’re making, but the author is still deliberately dancing on that line, and it does matter how it reads, not just how it’s justified in-universe. i don’t believe this can be interpreted in the vacuum of the story.

by all means, i’m not saying she’s straight up going out and preying on children, but i think it’s important to recognize that nuance.

i’d also like to bring up that pedophilia can be non-sexual. you can meet the clinical criteria for pedophilia while only being romantically attracted to children, or even never romantically or sexually pursuing children or not. if the attraction is there it’s pedophilia.
a person could have fixations on kids, emotional or romantic attraction, or a fascination with youth or “childlike” qualities without acting sexually or even thinking in explicitly sexual terms. but it still falls under pedophilic psychology because the underlying attraction is toward minors.

people seem to think pedophilia is adults full stop actively preying on minors, but that isn’t true. there’s many different ways in which pedophilia manifests, many of which aren’t obvious on the surface.

 

[Vmpslushie]

That was a fun twist. I was wondering how Big Sis was able to afford to whale so much they made an event just for her on a school nurse salary. So she's just the school nurse for fun?

kind of hate pedophilia being played off as comedy but i'll try to ignore it because i like the main couple 😭

She's just really into school uniforms. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Orangechrisy]

I think the point of this manga is to just mentally torture Akari with various extreme weirdos

 

[beThereShortly]

Next episode title?
B.I.A.N.S.

I know I should find a good acronym to make the joke complete but unfortunatly I am unfunny on a spiritual and physical level.

 

[Turbotune]

there is a difference between idolizing someone and sexualizing them, and the manga is definitely leaning more toward this over-the-top, obsessive-but-“pure-hearted” vibe instead of anything explicit.

but on the same token, that doesn’t erase the framing. you can say “she’s not motivated by anything sexual,” and maybe that’s true in canon, but it still uses tropes and aesthetics that are often sexualized in the genre. so even if her intent is pure-hearted, the presentation is doing something else alongside it.

and honestly, that’s kind of the whole issue, the story wants to play with a fetish-coded setup while also insisting it’s innocent. those two things can coexist, but pretending the implication disappears just because the character is written as eccentric or well-meaning is kind of naive.

so yeah, i get the distinction you’re making, but the author is still deliberately dancing on that line, and it does matter how it reads, not just how it’s justified in-universe. i don’t believe this can be interpreted in the vacuum of the story.

by all means, i’m not saying she’s straight up going out and preying on children, but i think it’s important to recognize that nuance.

i’d also like to bring up that pedophilia can be non-sexual. you can meet the clinical criteria for pedophilia while only being romantically attracted to children, or even never romantically or sexually pursuing children or not. if the attraction is there it’s pedophilia.
a person could have fixations on kids, emotional or romantic attraction, or a fascination with youth or “childlike” qualities without acting sexually or even thinking in explicitly sexual terms. but it still falls under pedophilic psychology because the underlying attraction is toward minors.

people seem to think pedophilia is adults full stop actively preying on minors, but that isn’t true. there’s many different ways in which pedophilia manifests, many of which aren’t obvious on the surface.

The definition of “Pedophilia” in the new Oxford American Dictionary is just “sexual feelings directed towards children”, so if it’s not sexual, then it’s not pedophilia.

Liking children and feeling more happy around them is not wrong, and frankly, as long as it doesn’t harm the children, then I fail to see why should we care so much about it, for fictional characters, no less.

And of course, like you have said, we can’t pretend the implications doesn’t exist, but like I have said, those are just implications, (curtsy of the author’s insanity and creativity) and if we can just explain it in the easiest and best way possible, there’s no need to interpret it as that way, since pedophilia itself is basically the internet conversation killer, and it takes the fun out of the manga.

 

[Turbotune]

Next episode title?
B.I.A.N.S.

I know I should find a good acronym to make the joke complete but unfortunatly I am unfunny on a spiritual and physical level.

Loves
Every idol wearing a
School uniform
…
But
I
Am
Not
Straight

thus, completing the “Lesbians”.
How’s that? I came up with this in less than a minute!

 

[fmg6047]

Wait!? So she is both CEO and school nurse, too!!?? Is it possible? I seriously ask it.

 

[thewomanliest]

The definition of “Pedophilia” in the new Oxford American Dictionary is just “sexual feelings directed towards children”, so if it’s not sexual, then it’s not pedophilia.

Liking children and feeling more happy around them is not wrong, and frankly, as long as it doesn’t harm the children, then I fail to see why should we care so much about it, for fictional characters, no less.

And of course, like you have said, we can’t pretend the implications doesn’t exist, but like I have said, those are just implications, (curtsy of the author’s insanity and creativity) and if we can just explain it in the easiest and best way possible, there’s no need to interpret it as that way, since pedophilia itself is basically the internet conversation killer, and it takes the fun out of the manga.

i get what you’re saying about the dictionary definition, but clinical and psychological definitions don’t always match simple dictionary ones. dictionaries reduce things to the most condensed version possible, but actual diagnostic categories are more complex. the DSM criteria talk about persistent attraction towards children, and while they frame it as “sexual arousal,” clinicians acknowledge that attraction doesn’t always express itself in a neat, explicitly sexual package.

romantic, emotional, or aesthetic fixation towards kids still falls under the same umbrella because the issue is who the attraction is directed toward, not whether it’s immediately sexual in someone’s mind. that’s why research separates behavior, intent, and orientation. the dictionary just doesn’t capture that nuance.

and sure, liking being around kids isn’t wrong.. obviously. that’s a totally separate thing. but that’s not what’s happening in this manga. this isn’t about “liking children” in a wholesome, caretaking way. it’s about an adult woman obsessing over uniformed students, connecting her affection specifically to their student status, and being written into a fetish-coded aesthetic. you can’t brush that aside by saying “well, she’s not touching anyone, so it doesn’t count.”

and just because its a conversation killer and "kills the fun" doesn't mean it doesn't still need to be addressed. i'm well aware a lot of people take sensitive topics like pedophilia very negatively, especially considering the backlash my initial comment got just by using that word, but that reaction doesn’t change the underlying issue. ignoring it just because it's fictional or makes people uncomfortable doesn't magically erase the implications, it just makes the conversation less honest.

and i know many people will think im being overdramatic or taking a work of fiction too seriously, especially one that's this light and comedic on the surface. but media needs to be critiqued, you can't just take everything at face value. acknowledging the implications doesn’t mean you have to hate the manga or the characters.. it just means you’re paying attention to what it’s doing beyond the jokes.

 

[Turbotune]

i get what you’re saying about the dictionary definition, but clinical and psychological definitions don’t always match simple dictionary ones. dictionaries reduce things to the most condensed version possible, but actual diagnostic categories are more complex. the DSM criteria talk about persistent attraction towards children, and while they frame it as “sexual arousal,” clinicians acknowledge that attraction doesn’t always express itself in a neat, explicitly sexual package.

romantic, emotional, or aesthetic fixation towards kids still falls under the same umbrella because the issue is who the attraction is directed toward, not whether it’s immediately sexual in someone’s mind. that’s why research separates behavior, intent, and orientation. the dictionary just doesn’t capture that nuance.

and sure, liking being around kids isn’t wrong.. obviously. that’s a totally separate thing. but that’s not what’s happening in this manga. this isn’t about “liking children” in a wholesome, caretaking way. it’s about an adult woman obsessing over uniformed students, connecting her affection specifically to their student status, and being written into a fetish-coded aesthetic. you can’t brush that aside by saying “well, she’s not touching anyone, so it doesn’t count.”

and just because its a conversation killer and "kills the fun" doesn't mean it doesn't still need to be addressed. i'm well aware a lot of people take sensitive topics like pedophilia very negatively, especially considering the backlash my initial comment got just by using that word, but that reaction doesn’t change the underlying issue. ignoring it just because it's fictional or makes people uncomfortable doesn't magically erase the implications, it just makes the conversation less honest.

and i know many people will think im being overdramatic or taking a work of fiction too seriously, especially one that's this light and comedic on the surface. but media needs to be critiqued, you can't just take everything at face value. acknowledging the implications doesn’t mean you have to hate the manga or the characters.. it just means you’re paying attention to what it’s doing beyond the jokes.

Fair enough, but your time is still better doing something more productive than saying what's already known around.

At this point I just hear you wanting to see the “being attracted to children” addressed in the discussion when lots of us don’t see a reason to care so much.

Yes, we know your point. And? Akari already summarized your opinions perfectly by calling her a pervert. Way ahead of you, pal!

EDIT: Bottom line, I’m sure you think whatever is in the manga right now is a bad behavior and/or has a bad influence as a whole which requires criticism. But I don’t think it's anything that serious. We didn’t agree on that, so no need to discuss that anymore. No opinions are changing, and I’m sure we’re tired as well.