Yuusha ni Zenbu Ubawareta Ore wa Yuusha no Hahaoya to Party o Kumimashita! - Vol. 4 Ch. 20

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I finally understand. This is not a braindead manga. It is a p***. It serves only to fulfill our desires of MILFs. So the plot and everything doesn't actually matter.
But, honestly, I'd rather this be a fully pledged p*** like those 1000 BC series
 
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I didn't think this manga would be this deep. Really hoping it doesn't get axed.
 
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It's weird how the author went out of his way to vilify Zect early in the story, only now to turn around and make him appear sympathetic. Why spend all that time making him the bad guy, and making him look like a complete douche, if he was going to just apply the power of friendship and make everything all better? Seems like poor writing.
Except, the author never really did that. We just fell in the pitfall of comparing the dude with similar scenarios we see in different isekai stories.

Even the MC was very adamant about "not wanting to punish him", and just went along to please the mothers.
If you pay attention, even when he was "punishing" their ex-husbands, he made sure to do it in a way that would better them as people.

Though one of them - WE KNOW EXACTLY WHO - should've just been left to die. What he did was NOT forgivable at all. And I really wish Japan would start to lean more that way with this topic, instead of just "oh no, you're such a piece of shit that don't deserve to live, and you showed that over and over again by doing this very specific disgusting thing, and you crossed 50 lines while you were at it... but here, I'll give you another chance!" - then, same MC proceeds to kill someone who didn't do half of that, for no reason coff dragons coff.

That aside, though, Zect wasn't really written to be the worst - other than someone who tried to NTR the protagonist... which is probably not even what happened, given what we saw everyone, including the MC and his "lover" say later.

In fact, we've just let ourselves be baited by this, even though the author made sure we knew Zect and the party weren't total scumbags like in the other stories.
You can even see that in the very first chapter, when the guy is like "So you're leaving the party?", and they also say things like "You'd probably end up dying if you come with us".
So in a way, they were trying to protect him, even if they're all scumbags in a way or another.

Either way, they don't compare in any way, shape or form to the other "banishing parties" you'll see in other isekais. Which is completely astonishing to me, as it came from this barely-not-hentai work.
 
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if i remember basically, since ceres become new dragon with ability of "Everything he wishes comes true" it makes his character boring. Oh, also aside from 4 milf he also got aditional 3 harem member, princess older sister, ex sword Saintess, and a Goddess. oh, Later he go to nirwana/Heaven where he spent his entire life fucking his harem. Zect on the other hand got great character development.
What happened to the girls who betrayed him for Zect?
 
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After got defeated by Demon lord army the party went home. in village the MILF already prepare some punishment for them
- among the member party punishment Lida was the worst victim.
The others are not physically abused, but the author just put them in the story to show them as "inferior" versions of the mothers.
For example, Maria (the current saint), Shizuko, and the former saint, once went to the church to heal people, and Shizuko and the former saint finished their quota faster than Maria. Then, they left her and go have a tea and brag about how they are more talented than the girl but will never teach her anything.

I was really disappointed by the former saint and sword saint because I had anticipated that they might have felt some empathy towards the kids. The former or the first Hero's party had been defeated by the Demon Lord's army, the former Hero and Sage had been killed and former saint and sword saint captured. So they had an experience similar to what the kids had been through. But as the MILFs had been their mentors and they had been the one who rescued them, they put MILFs on a pedestal and also treat the girls like trash.

- To tell the end of Lida's story (the current sword saint), after being bullied and get jumped on by the mothers (two of the mothers and the former sword saint who married Ceres later to be accurate) for several days, she finds a magic sword that fights automatically for her. This sword allows Lida to fight back against the three wives... for about five minutes. Then Ceres shows them that the magic sword reacts to hostility and that if they approach Lida sneakily like an assassin, the sword doesn't react and that they can keep bullying Lida.

- Also, Shizuko is mad at Zecht for letting the girls in Ceres's care and tells him that he should have kept the girls with him. So why did she accept them when they came back in the first place? Her actions and her preachings don't add up. Just slap them in the face when they first came back. No need to take the girls in if it is to blame Zecht for that later.

Zecht went on his way and became a great man. The girls maybe could have grown too if they left. But not only didn't the mothers help them, they made everything they could to keep the girl's morale and self-esteem at the lowest. Not wanting to help them is one thing, taking them in to make them miserable is just toxic parenting IMO.

Ceres is 100% on the side of the MILFs and never stand up for the girls.
wow, no wonder the children are scum. Both their mothers and fathers are complete trash. They deserve each other.
 
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It's weird how the author went out of his way to vilify Zect early in the story, only now to turn around and make him appear sympathetic. Why spend all that time making him the bad guy, and making him look like a complete douche, if he was going to just apply the power of friendship and make everything all better? Seems like poor writing.
What? The author isn't trying to justify Zects actions or anything like that. They're showing him being forced to recognize the mistake he made and being humbled by it. It's either this or the author would have to make Zect and everyone else so completely delusional as to think the situation they are in now is because of Ceres which would be stupid and would strain credulity
 
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Ah yes, the legally mandated ''literally just japan but in the isekai world'' ahh town.
Is it mandatory for Japanese authors to reference Japan someway in their mangas, that’s just what I picked up from the way u worded ur comment don’t chew me out if my assessment is wrong😅
 
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You can say what you want about Zect being a scumbag & a fool but at the end of the day he tried his best. He expressed genuine tears while also experiencing most likely his lowest point in his life. Maybe now he'll be humbled & turnover a new leaf to be a real hero like he aspired to be. Sure the church wasn't specific but I assumed without Ceres, they would still get the message (maybe?). I have no sympathies for the girls but Zect deserves massive respect points after this chapter. Hope he does become a better person after getting a good smack from Ceres because he can be redeemed. Thanks for the translations.
Yeah I was VERY suprised that Zect himself was the “good” one among the old team

I WILL sympathize that the girls as they had witness the entire army get slaughtered by the dragons but only for that as they broke long before the fight went bad and the way it looked if they actually helped it wouldn’t have been a slaughter….
 
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Yeah I was VERY suprised that Zect himself was the “good” one among the old team

I WILL sympathize that the girls as they had witness the entire army get slaughtered by the dragons but only for that as they broke long before the fight went bad and the way it looked if they actually helped it wouldn’t have been a slaughter….
No, I mean, he's still terrible. He still wanted to be NTR guy and he didn't give a fuck that his mom was sold into slavery. Him being like "aw shit, this sucks, and I brought it all on myself" or "I have my pride" now doesn't erase that. The girls are self-centered and incompetent, but I wouldn't say they're worse. They're all shit.

Though since we're on the topic of people being shit, the moms aren't so great either. They're acting like their kids turning out that way had fucking nothing to do with them. Bitch, don't have kids if you don't wanna take care of them. And now, not only are they disinterested in doing anything to fix their issues, they're actively trying to take revenge on them and ensuring they have no home to return to. Speaking as an actual parent, that's just fucked up.
 
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This is where I stopped last time I've read .. now I've got 5 new chapters to read , yay.
 
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This story is so odd. It acts like him getting kicked out was the party’s fault, but it seems like no one taught them anything. Apparently, their parent taught them nothing, MC taught them nothing, and the church taught them nothing. Then when the party, knowing nothing, kicks MC out he just fucks off and acts like he had nothing to do with why they’re so unprepared.
Also if you pay attention to the MC’s actions, he is arguably doing EXACTLY what the hero did to him but taken even further. The only difference is that the story gives the MC free power and bends over backwards to justify it while the hero is simultaneously being demonized while also not being that horrible of a person.

If the author isn’t careful, the MC is going to be baby seal clubbing.
 
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the revenge is the boning of his mom
Is it? According to the logic of this world, MILF’s are sub-human. That would be like getting mad that a friend took on your parent’s pet and they wound up bonding. Maybe a bit awkward but not really “revenge.”
 
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Every character in this story is so dumb that it's pretty painful to see an attempt at development. The speech Ceres had towards the Pope isn't

also, I want to add things up and some corrections from my comment after I re-read the WN
- Ceres plan for those MILF ex-husbands doesn't work well as they seem pretty much enjoying their life with their new wives so far (if they're not screwed up by looking to other girls)

- we know a lot of people die in dragon stampede But nobody will ever hold Ceres accountable for the thousands of deaths due to his stampede. However, Ceres stops hunting dragons, not because he reflects that he was careless of his actions and that he killed thousands of people, but because as a dragon god, he considers dragons as his children (LOL) :haa: and doesn't want to harm them.

So, because of Ceres's carelessness, thousands of people died, Zecht was the only one blamed for it and Ceres ended up turned into a dragon god.


- There are several dragon gods already. So, Ceres is accepted as one of them. He is not the strongest of the dragon gods right now, but he has the potential to become the strongest. He gains the special power of "Absolute Luck" which means that everything he wishes for will happen or come true without any effort required (even unconsciously), making Ceres the most boring MC ever.

- After the enconter between the Black Dragon and Ceres, Ceres gets turned into a Dragon God. He is basically more powerfull than traditional gods. All the countries want to have someone close to them marry Ceres to "protect their country from him".
The king offers him the princess Zecht was supposed to marry but Ceres refuses because she's too young, so he marries the older sister who is considered too old by this world standard. The empire also offers him the former Sword Saint who is also a princess of the Empire. And the Church offers him the former Saint.
Former Saint and Sword Saint appear to be the pupils of the MILFs and the MILFs rescued them after the previous Hero's party failed to kill the Demon Lord. the previous Hero and sage got killed during the battle leaving only these 2
Later, the Goddess herself asks Ceres if he's OK with her marrying him too. So, Ceres has total 8 MILF in his harem later

Zecht and the girls do not simply get beaten up, they are tortured and mutilated (like missing limbs mutilation). That's why the girls don't want to fight anymore, and why Lida has severe PTSD, and why Zecht disbands the Hero's party.

The demon Lord is on level of strength similar to Zecht at his peak. But there is one demon general who is way stronger than the demon Lord, like godlike level. He is the one who defeats the Hero's party for the second time and he is beaten by Ceres. But Ceres can only barely win because he has become a dragon god. This demon general is an anomaly that shouldn't exist.

That's also the moment Ceres chooses to deliver the "I fucked your mom's" punchline. It was so anticlimactic. Zecht and the girls have been tortured and put on display to shame them for days. They are dehydrated and barely conscious. So, nobody cares when Ceres announces this.

After got defeated by Demon lord army the party went home. in village the MILF already prepare some punishment for them
- among the member party punishment Lida was the worst victim.
The others are not physically abused, but the author just put them in the story to show them as "inferior" versions of the mothers.
For example, Maria (the current saint), Shizuko, and the former saint, once went to the church to heal people, and Shizuko and the former saint finished their quota faster than Maria. Then, they left her and go have a tea and brag about how they are more talented than the girl but will never teach her anything.


I was really disappointed by the former saint and sword saint because I had anticipated that they might have felt some empathy towards the kids. The former or the first Hero's party had been defeated by the Demon Lord's army, the former Hero and Sage had been killed and former saint and sword saint captured. So they had an experience similar to what the kids had been through. But as the MILFs had been their mentors and they had been the one who rescued them, they put MILFs on a pedestal and also treat the girls like trash.

- To tell the end of Lida's story (the current sword saint), after being bullied and get jumped on by the mothers (two of the mothers and the former sword saint who married Ceres later to be accurate) for several days, she finds a magic sword that fights automatically for her. This sword allows Lida to fight back against the three wives... for about five minutes. Then Ceres shows them that the magic sword reacts to hostility and that if they approach Lida sneakily like an assassin, the sword doesn't react and that they can keep bullying Lida.

- Also, Shizuko is mad at Zecht for letting the girls in Ceres's care and tells him that he should have kept the girls with him. So why did she accept them when they came back in the first place? Her actions and her preachings don't add up. Just slap them in the face when they first came back. No need to take the girls in if it is to blame Zecht for that later.

Zecht went on his way and became a great man. The girls maybe could have grown too if they left. But not only didn't the mothers help them, they made everything they could to keep the girl's morale and self-esteem at the lowest. Not wanting to help them is one thing, taking them in to make them miserable is just toxic parenting IMO.

Ceres is 100% on the side of the MILFs and never stand up for the girls.

- Zecht is by far the most interesting character in this story. After the second major defeat of the Hero's party (I said second because the first hero party failed to kill the demon lord) Zecht decides that he's not worthy of the title of Hero and the girls all suffer from heavy PTSD and don't want to fight anymore. So Zecht decides to disband the party. He disbands the Hero's party, letting the girls going back to MC. He gives up the title of Hero and works as a solo adventurer. while grinding some experience He takes jobs that nobody else can do (like dragon and monster hunting) and jobs that no one wants to do (like cleaning the sewers, picking up the garbage, etc). He spends his days off in the slumps, giving food and healing homeless and Poor people. The Church doesn't want to help them because they have no money.
Like Zect says says in chapter 17, as the Hero, he should marry the princess. The princess despises the arrogant person that Zecht was but falls in love with him after he changed. She gives up on her title as a princess to marry him.
Zecht becomes a Hero again because the people give him this title back, he even tries to refuse it. He becomes friend with the Demon Lord, ending the war between humans and demon for good.
And when he comes back to his village to see MC, the girls and the moms, his mom treat him like scum because he "abandonned the girls" (when the girls themselves wanted to go back to MC...)
The three girls want to go live with Ceres. He accepts but only sees them as his daughters.
They finally join Zecht's harem after he has regained his title of Hero (even if he tried to refuse the title).
Zect got 5 harem member, his current 3, the princess, lastly the Albino loli :02:


The main story is completed with Zecht and Ceres finally getting along again, but Ceres leaves to go to the realm of the gods with his wives.

BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE. This series also had side stories after the main story end.

The basic idea is that Zecht has become the greatest king humanity ever knew, Lida the strongest sword saint, Mel the wisest sage and Maria the holiest saint. But the mothers still treat them like shit because they themselves have been turned into godesses by Ceres so that they can live eternally with him. (The only achievement of the MILFs is to fuck Ceres, they never do anything special, never go adventuring with him... nothing)
The side story starts when Zecht dies of old age. He goes to the equivalent of Elision, a paradise for heroes. The three girls and the two other members of Zecht's harem want to commit suicide to join him, but Mel, the sage, is forced to stay with the living. They have had kids, but they push every responsibilites on her, because she is the wisest sage of history.
One day, when one of the MILFs says she wants to have a kid with Ceres, the goddess asks her "Are you sure? You all were pretty bad mothers the first time." And the mothers don't know how to answer that. That's the closest we ever get from the mothers to think that they messed up the kid's education (Ceres also don't want to have children from each milf) so Ceres's wives discuss and decide to have a kid with Ceres (One kid with the 8 wives as his mothers and Ceres as the father). They mix one drop of their blood with a drop of Ceres's sperm/jizz, cast a little spell and make a kid who is even more OP than Ceres, but has no common sense. After a while, the kid wants to go to the mortal world and the mothers force Mel to take care of him, but they threaten her to blast her if she ever tries to touch the kid...

Moral of the story the Milf are not so different with their child. each side is bad. milf are bad at parenting while the kid also stupid and make plenty mistake specially the party member (the ladies). Zect also make mistake but he's learning from it and be better person later in the future.
After the second chapter I was pretty certain the story was going to head down a bad direction. I didn’t expect this…

Conclusion: Zect is probably the best character in the story. Everyone else is too old to have excuses or lacks proper agency.
 
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Except, the author never really did that. We just fell in the pitfall of comparing the dude with similar scenarios we see in different isekai stories.

Even the MC was very adamant about "not wanting to punish him", and just went along to please the mothers.
If you pay attention, even when he was "punishing" their ex-husbands, he made sure to do it in a way that would better them as people.

Though one of them - WE KNOW EXACTLY WHO - should've just been left to die. What he did was NOT forgivable at all. And I really wish Japan would start to lean more that way with this topic, instead of just "oh no, you're such a piece of shit that don't deserve to live, and you showed that over and over again by doing this very specific disgusting thing, and you crossed 50 lines while you were at it... but here, I'll give you another chance!" - then, same MC proceeds to kill someone who didn't do half of that, for no reason coff dragons coff.

That aside, though, Zect wasn't really written to be the worst - other than someone who tried to NTR the protagonist... which is probably not even what happened, given what we saw everyone, including the MC and his "lover" say later.

In fact, we've just let ourselves be baited by this, even though the author made sure we knew Zect and the party weren't total scumbags like in the other stories.
You can even see that in the very first chapter, when the guy is like "So you're leaving the party?", and they also say things like "You'd probably end up dying if you come with us".
So in a way, they were trying to protect him, even if they're all scumbags in a way or another.

Either way, they don't compare in any way, shape or form to the other "banishing parties" you'll see in other isekais. Which is completely astonishing to me, as it came from this barely-not-hentai work.
TBH Zect is the real story we should have gotten. The MC’s whole “I got all you’re moms, f**ked them, and become dragon god” bit was nothing but filler to me. Zest was far more complex, interesting, and had to fight against the story demonizing him. He didn’t do good things, but the MC did the same to others except worse.
 

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