Class no Daikirai na Joshi to Kekkon Suru Koto ni Natta - Vol. 6 Ch. 32.2

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they probably dislike the manipulation aspect but let's be real that's most women and at least she's upfront about it.
or they are akane fans which is nonsense.
I wonder if there's any manga/ln/wn in which a supporting character ends up winning, I've read my fair share of works where FMC's friend is objectively the better person yet they end up in a situation like this.
There is no manipulation. She already confessed to the MC.
The only thing I think it's sad it's because MC already rejected her, so don't know, this don't really feel healty for her.
 
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The problem with Hikari is that she's willing to lower herself. Say what you want about convenience, but that doesn't make for a long term relationship. She's actually seeking both solace from her family (as you can derive from the novels) and a comfortable lifestyle, which Saito could obviously provide. That's not love. That's not even lust with potential. It's a straightforward business arrangement.

If that's what you'd like - ok. But doesn't make sense here.
I think it mostly stems from his personality and stoic nature. She didn't know his family history or anything like that, but young girls, especially those who were forced to grow up faster due to poor home lives, often seek more mature partners (and usually that means older men, not realizing that said men are fucking man children who can't get someone their age for a reason). Her belittling herself stems from abandonment issues, and probably some other issues we haven't seen with how her parents treat her.
Of course, I haven't read any novels, but this is how I see things from the manga alone.
 
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Me seeing the harem tag:
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The problem with Hikari is that she's willing to lower herself. Say what you want about convenience, but that doesn't make for a long term relationship. She's actually seeking both solace from her family (as you can derive from the novels) and a comfortable lifestyle, which Saito could obviously provide. That's not love. That's not even lust with potential. It's a straightforward business arrangement.

If that's what you'd like - ok. But doesn't make sense here.

You're acting like solace and comfort aren't typical reasons people fall in love, in fact I'd wager most people fall in love because they gain those feelings around the people they love.
 
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You're acting like solace and comfort aren't typical reasons people fall in love, in fact I'd wager most people fall in love because they gain those feelings around the people they love.
That's companionship - not love. Wanting someone to warm your bed at night and provide you with the basics + more isn't love. Love transcends whether you have the material comforts and if you both look good hanging off each other's arms - "...for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer, In sickness and in health..." It's not theoretical either. That's my real life view which is supported by my relationship.

What she wants - isn't sustainable. That doesn't stop people from trying - evidenced by high Divorce Rates and Vegas Wedding Chapels. But it's not going to last. And if there's one thing Saito is certain about - he doesn't want a flash in the pan.
 
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That's companionship - not love. Wanting someone to warm your bed at night and provide you with the basics + more isn't love. Love transcends whether you have the material comforts and if you both look good hanging off each other's arms - "...for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer, In sickness and in health..." It's not theoretical either. That's my real life view which is supported by my relationship.

What she wants - isn't sustainable. That doesn't stop people from trying - evidenced by high Divorce Rates and Vegas Wedding Chapels. But it's not going to last. And if there's one thing Saito is certain about - he doesn't want a flash in the pan.

Your view of love is really narrow and anecdotal, if anything your view of love is the one most people pursue leading to high divorces.

This isn't even adding to the fact it's not entirely what she wants but that's digressing
 
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I've noticed this series is no longer on Platinum Crown's website. Are they dropping this?
 
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I hope author make her win and become MC heroine even i know that she'll absolutely lose
 
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I hate the this new development man,
It was one thing to have it as ploy to get The couple in various settings and help them grow closer.

Just not liking how while they are clearly developing the FL into finally realising her feelings for the ML. We are also met with this curve ball. Even as "innocent" as it is set up. Coming out of genuine feelings and all. It not only discounted Hikari with this. But also, this is spoiling the mood and the relationship between those 2 girls for sake of accelerating the main relationship.

It will be much worse if just get a cheap Harem from this. As the set up and progress does not support such ending imo.
 
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Ngl I didn't think I'd give 'Manga Dub's any kudos over manga but, I like how the Manga dubs version were written without the harem dynamics mostly (well as far as I had watched a year or two ago).

I do like the extended cast but if the manga wants MC and Akane to be endgame (as it clearly does) it should have be more focused on developing the relationship between them.
 
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That's companionship - not love. Wanting someone to warm your bed at night and provide you with the basics + more isn't love. Love transcends whether you have the material comforts and if you both look good hanging off each other's arms - "...for better or for worse, for richer or for poorer, In sickness and in health..." It's not theoretical either. That's my real life view which is supported by my relationship.

What she wants - isn't sustainable. That doesn't stop people from trying - evidenced by high Divorce Rates and Vegas Wedding Chapels. But it's not going to last. And if there's one thing Saito is certain about - he doesn't want a flash in the pan.
So while I do think that she is trying to achieve is not a good basis for a relationship. Your comments are actually wrong. Love is a not forever feeling, and it is replaced by companionship. Expecting love to last forever isn't realistic there are also different types of love.

My overall problem is that Hikari for one is either being led on because two people can't admit they are in love with each other which is awful. Or worse she is being two faced in this situation. she says she wouldn't ever manipulate others she cares about. It's clearly not true or she's doing it unwittingly, maybe she has so much practice with it she doesn't realize when she is doing it. But she has seen how the 2 interact. And seen their body language, something she should know based on her knowledge of psychology. When they say they don't feel comfortable with going along with her requests. In both instances she says the magical words "are you in love with __" then uses their obvious objection to further her own position. Keep in mind she doesn't actually care if they care for each other. She is not saying "are you sure your not in love with _?" to make sure she can be guilt free in her position. She is asking it in positions to make the others begrudgingly move forward in a situation they are showing discomfort in.
 

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