Eroge Tensei - Unmei ni Aragau Kane Buta Kizoku no Funtouki - Ch. 19

[MangaDex]

 

[Seetee]

Thank you for the translation!

This actually explains some of the reactions he has been met with. But talking to Clarissa again can never be a pleasant experience. So sad that she ended up bearing those rumours. :-/

 

[Newbii]

Yo I think you forgot to ping @misstree for the clrd after the ts

 

[wanfai]

I mean… sure all of that happened.
Did you try to tell the naïve protag the consequences of his actions?
Guess not since this chapter exists. If you don’t tell him he’s not going to know, he’s not physic dang it

 

[bojjivinsmoke]

I hate Erina

 

[Kaarme]

What an annoying chapter. For the length of the whole chapter I was just waiting for Leold to tell Erina to keep her forked tongue behind her teeth. But of course the previous chapter, where Leold was unable to lift a finger to defend the saintess, already revealed he's lacking the kind of spirit you need to confront hostile people. He's feeling far too deeply Leold's past sins. They aren't his. He should just look at them purely objectively, with zero conscience since they weren't his misdeeds. Yet this scene looked 100% like Sendou Makoto himself would have been responsible. I have said before that he can't escape the consequences since he just happens to have Leold's body and identity now, but he doesn't need to get emotional about it, no more than a man falsely accused and sent to a prison would feel responsible for the crime someone else did.

 

[Chizan]

Is Erina perhaps a reincarnator with memories from this 'game'?...

 

[Junomano]

Huh, how is he supposed to know and how is that his fault? was he the one who made her and her family fall?
that's an easy blame by my book. Should he not have saved his people and let them suffer? bro is doing well and becoming a better sure, sure it won't take away the bad things he did before but you can't be blaming him for everything that happens to others because he is doing something else. People deserves second chance sometimes especially when they are trying hard for it, forgiveness is not easy i understand but nonethessly, you should not block that possibility

 

[Junomano]

What an annoying chapter. For the length of the whole chapter I was just waiting for Leold to tell Erina to keep her forked tongue behind her teeth. But of course the previous chapter, where Leold was unable to lift a finger to defend the saintess, already revealed he's lacking the kind of spirit you need to confront hostile people. He's feeling far too deeply Leold's past sins. They aren't his. He should just look at them purely objectively, with zero conscience since they weren't his misdeeds. Yet this scene looked 100% like Sendou Makoto himself would have been responsible. I have said before that he can't escape the consequences since he just happens to have Leold's body and identity now, but he doesn't need to get emotional about it, no more than a man falsely accused and sent to a prison would feel responsible for the crime someone else did.

also that he shouldn't bother about what everyone thinks about him and move on solely focused on his goals of bettering himself

 

[Hitspark]

What an annoying chapter. For the length of the whole chapter I was just waiting for Leold to tell Erina to keep her forked tongue behind her teeth. But of course the previous chapter, where Leold was unable to lift a finger to defend the saintess, already revealed he's lacking the kind of spirit you need to confront hostile people. He's feeling far too deeply Leold's past sins. They aren't his. He should just look at them purely objectively, with zero conscience since they weren't his misdeeds. Yet this scene looked 100% like Sendou Makoto himself would have been responsible. I have said before that he can't escape the consequences since he just happens to have Leold's body and identity now, but he doesn't need to get emotional about it, no more than a man falsely accused and sent to a prison would feel responsible for the crime someone else did.

The entire chapter I was thinking this same thing.

"Why do you care so much about what someone else did and why are YOU personally being hurt by stuff you had nothing to do with?"

The MC is so spineless I could confuse him for a jellyfish.

 

[Amogh24]

The manga seems to be over at 25 chapters. Doesn't seem like it followed the web novel, and for good reason, it's awful.

 

[Niftykoala]

The entire chapter I was thinking this same thing.

"Why do you care so much about what someone else did and why are YOU personally being hurt by stuff you had nothing to do with?"

The MC is so spineless I could confuse him for a jellyfish.

The MC is living in the shadow of the life he he was dumped into. He's trying to better himself, without knowing how terrible that former life was. He's not so inhumane as to not feel bad for others situations. He's not spineless. He's merely showing empathy.

The reason he apologizes is because he is truly sorry for what had happened to them.
He knows the universe will always see him as the golden pig, so all he can do is show them he is more humble now and that He's not some cold hearted selfish sickofant, who only thinks about himself and how good his life is.

He's trying to better the world around him, not just make things better for himself.

 

[Kucai]

Read the raw ahead

Spoiler

Looks like the story differs so much from the web, the tldr is that he had SA his ex fiancee with some other girls also being victim of his small group. So yeah, the hatred towards him is really justified

 

[ciera]

Thanks for the update

 

[Slingerman]

Thanks for the translation. Page 4 has a typeset error.

The fact that he isn't the person whose body he is in, means he's not guilty. It's such a weird situation... What those other guys did also isn't his fault. He should say 'I get it, you don't forgive me. I don't need your approval, what I'm doing is for myself, whether you believe me or not.'

 

[Hitspark]

The MC is living in the shadow of the life he he was dumped into. He's trying to better himself, without knowing how terrible that former life was. He's not so inhumane as to not feel bad for others situations. He's not spineless. He's merely showing empathy.

It's not empathy that's the problem, you are over simplifying it.

The reason he apologizes is because he is truly sorry for what had happened to them.
He knows the universe will always see him as the golden pig, so all he can do is show them he is more humble now and that He's not some cold hearted selfish sickofant, who only thinks about himself and how good his life is.

He's trying to better the world around him, not just make things better for himself.

Again, the problem isn't empathy or a lack thereof. You can be empathetic without being crushed by the actions of someone else. It might be the body he inhabits but he acts like he's the one who personally did everything and that's the problem. If you suddenly woke up in the body of someone else, someone bad, you'd feel sorry and empathize with the victims, but you'd never act like you yourself were the problem. You'd think "How am I going to fix 'this guy's' mistakes and actions? How can I right his wrongs?"

You would not go "OH DEAR ME! WHAT HAVE I DONE!? OH IF ONLY I HADN'T DONE THAT! AND IF THAT OTHER THING HADN'T HAPPENED!"

The reason has nothing to do with one's ability to empathize but with the fact there is a psychological distance between the two inhabitants of the body, one that literally cannot be overcome due to him knowing full well he's in a different body.

There is no reason he can't look at his host's old life and think "Wow, that's terrible" and then be confident in the fact he can and will do better. There's no reason he can't go "Dang, this is terrible. Leold really made a mess of things!" or when parts of it aren't his fault, he can simply say "I'm sorry you feel that way, and I'm sorry about everything that has happened, but I have nothing to do with that. You can't blame me for everything just because it's convenient. I'm doing my best with the chance I've been given and that's what I plan to continue to do."

Being empathetic doesn't require you to be a wimp with a martyr complex.

 

[Magnico]

The manga seems to be over at 25 chapters. Doesn't seem like it followed the web novel, and for good reason, it's awful.

What happened in the web novel?

 

[Wolvenworks]

This ch feels like the equivalent of CBT

 

[Kikaibaka]

Erina was the worst girl in the WN and she takes the title in the manga too.

That being said I hope they do the discussion he has with his former fiancée justice. It truly opened Leold's eyes and the cascading effects of his attempting to redeem himself.

Spoiler: The Discussion

She details how her, her family and the people who sided with them to break the engagement have been getting eviscerated socially and personally because they broke off the engagement to Leold who is returning to the way he was before he became known as the Golden Pig where everyone was expecting him to lead the young generation in the future. She proceeds to tell him she will NEVER forgive him for what he did to her, and asks why he decided to redeem himself NOW instead of before because it's almost as if he's doing this to attack her again. Leold reassures her his intention to reform is genuine and she says she'll hold him to that if only so no one else has to go through what she did at his hands again. Leold also also realizes he isn't living in a bubble in Zeat(even if he was essentially exiled there) and contrary to his will or intentions the Nobility and Royalty will manipulate his actions because he's proving to be talented to throw away over what he did in the past victims be damned.

 

[Scipo0419]

Well, even seeing the context from ch.20 on their site it makes 0 sense why he's being blamed for the actions of others.

Erina was the worst girl in the WN and she takes the title in the manga too.

That being said I hope they do the discussion he has with his former fiancée justice. It truly opened Leold's eyes and the cascading effects of his attempting to redeem himself.

Spoiler: The Discussion

She details how her, her family and the people who sided with them to break the engagement have been getting eviscerated socially and personally because they broke off the engagement to Leold who is returning to the way he was before he became known as the Golden Pig where everyone was expecting him to lead the young generation in the future. She proceeds to tell him she will NEVER forgive him for what he did to her, and asks why he decided to redeem himself NOW instead of before because it's almost as if he's doing this to attack her again. Leold reassures her his intention to reform is genuine and she says she'll hold him to that if only so no one else has to go through what she did at his hands again. Leold also also realizes he isn't living in a bubble in Zeat(even if he was essentially exiled there) and contrary to his will or intentions the Nobility and Royalty will manipulate his actions because he's proving to be talented to throw away over what he did in the past victims be damned.

The problem is:

Spoiler

Yes, his actions have consequences outside of his expectations. Hating him for what he directly did to her? 1,000% understandable, but blaming him for the actions of others makes 0 sense. Pointing out: "Hey, your actions have consequences and if you're doing this on purpose then fuck you" would be fine, but they're not doing that. They're pointing a finger at a firefighter and saying "Great, because you put out that fire, my stuff is all wet!"