Kuse Tsuyo Kanojo wa Toko ni Izanau - Ch. 11

[dokidoki]

Seeing all these angry people in the comments is actually more puzzling than what's happening in the entire manga.

Its because they don't like a series in which MC gets with a slut, they don't like women who sleeps around etc etc
It happens to multiple series with a FML who is a slut, its quite interesting reading peoples comments imo lol

 

[dokidoki]

The only reason you think she's been "passed around like candy" is because she isn't a virgin.

We haven't even SEEN her with another guy outside MC in current day, maybe she had a boyfriend when they were kids, but because she's likely not "pure" you assume she's fucked 100s of men. That's on you.

Why do we have to SEE her with another guy to assume she sleeps around with multiple men? She has shown multiple signs to have been sleeping around, the not getting embarrassed with showing her underwear to MC, the kissing when sick, the not being bothered by getting a hicky, the moaning at night, the kiss she had with someone else at the door, the whole entire bar scene where she jumps onto mc's lap and eats his ear out, the hotel makeout sesh, etc etc it all shows she has ALOT of experience with men or sex in general.

the ONLY reason why I can think of this all being a MISUNDERSTANDING to the stupid lvl would be because of 2 reasons being that when she was younger MC caught her kissing the dude and he ignored her and she slept in the same bed with MC and she cried at her sleep saying PLS DON'T LEAVE ME and then the other part is her masturbating thinking of MC more then once, it would be EXTREMELY weird for her to literally have been in love with MC since a kid but sleep around as if that would SOMEHOW please MC.....I also think that the moment when the sharktooth childhood friend told MC that her brother said she was a slut it could have come from maybe that man she kissed talking shit about her and spreading rumors about her because maybe she broke up with him after being caught by MC

 

[tvadek]

friendzoned... for no reason exept to make the story longer...

Wait! Let’s not sex, I want to masturbate while thinking of this sex instead!

I guess you don’t get a flux capacitor every time someone falls off a toilet and hits their head.

 

[shinya78]

Ahh, sweet freedom from spoiler jail.

First off, thank you RadeonScans!

Second, curse you black boxes! ...again!

Why do we have to SEE her with another guy to assume she sleeps around with multiple men? She has shown multiple signs to have been sleeping around, the not getting embarrassed with showing her underwear to MC, the kissing when sick, the not being bothered by getting a hicky, the moaning at night, the kiss she had with someone else at the door, the whole entire bar scene where she jumps onto mc's lap and eats his ear out, the hotel makeout sesh, etc etc it all shows she has ALOT of experience with men or sex in general.

Because those are circumstantial evidence at best. Unless Luna is explicitly shown actually doing said deeds, there will be room for other interpretations, reasonable doubts, random Jojo levels of plot armor shenanigans. Never underestimate the power of random plot armor bullshit shenanigans.

We've never actually seen Luna explicitly kissing someone other than Naoto in this chapter. We've seen her do something that seemed like she is kissing someone, but because we never actually see her lips making contact with another's, we cannot confirm or deny it until the author actually shows it. It's one thing with the usual normal manga, but this one specifically is made with "did she or did she not?" in mind.

the ONLY reason why I can think of this all being a MISUNDERSTANDING to the stupid lvl would be because of 2 reasons being that when she was younger MC caught her kissing the dude and he ignored her and she slept in the same bed with MC and she cried at her sleep saying PLS DON'T LEAVE ME and then the other part is her masturbating thinking of MC more then once, it would be EXTREMELY weird for her to literally have been in love with MC since a kid but sleep around as if that would SOMEHOW please MC.....I also think that the moment when the sharktooth childhood friend told MC that her brother said she was a slut it could have come from maybe that man she kissed talking shit about her and spreading rumors about her because maybe she broke up with him after being caught by MC

There is the theory where the characters aren't entirely humans, possibly tying together with the author's other ongoing work, which is an isekai. The main argument being Luna and Hiba's eyes aren't eyes used by human characters when drawn by the author, and her being somewhat promiscuous, or her "slutty acts" could be tied to her nature if she turned out to be something like succubi or the like. Shark girl's "shark teeth" and remarks about the MC's canines are also tied to the theory. The prior being obviously unusual to have as a normal human, and the latter being unusual to point out "not changing since he was little" and sometimes being emphasized, unless it has some importance to be revealed later on.

 

[WiseMansBlood]

What's with the boxes btw

its quite common that the authors only upload the uncensored works in either the actual book or they are behind a paywall so only folks that pay for it get the uncensored one. Sometimes they release the uncensored one of the last volume after the next volume is released. So you might wanna check this manga out later again if you really wanna see it without tha boxes

 

[WiseMansBlood]

well I am positively surprised by this chapter. so I do have some theories ig...

well first of all its pretty obv. at this point that the fmc fancies the MC, like not sure how much but at least a decent bunch considering this was the second time she masturbated while saying his name. Now why she pushed him away I can only guess but its either cus she doesn't want their relationship to start out of carnal desires or cus she herself isn't so sure what she wants.

about the rather uhh suggestive scenes we've seen... its pretty obvious that author is just pulling some serious tricks and will have somehow a way to explain shit however unrealistic that will be.

 

[Bearman851]

drunk AF is the answer xD

LMFAO

 

[dokidoki]

We've never actually seen Luna explicitly kissing someone other than Naoto in this chapter. We've seen her do something that seemed like she is kissing someone, but because we never actually see her lips making contact with another's, we cannot confirm or deny it until the author actually shows it. It's one thing with the usual normal manga, but this one specifically is made with "did she or did she not?" in mind.

???????????? what are you talking about? we saw her kiss a dude in the past when MC was a kid???????? and then again during the door????????? or are you going to suddenly tell me that spit string was complete and utter bullshit via some coping?????
You can ignore the signs of her sleeping around all you want but I def won't because like the other dude said where there's smoke etc

The only way she MIGHT not be sleeping around now or in the past is if the author comes up with some MISUNDERSTANDING bullshit like I stated b4 in that yea she wasn't sleeping around it ONLY seemed like it, the sleeping moaning wasn't seggs or masturbation it was her using the massage on her shoulders and her feeling good, the spit string wasn't a kiss it was her eating something etc aka bullshit misunderstandings

 

[shinya78]

???????????? what are you talking about? we saw her kiss a dude in the past when MC was a kid???????? and then again during the door????????? or are you going to suddenly tell me that spit string was complete and utter bullshit via some coping?????
You can ignore the signs of her sleeping around all you want but I def won't because like the other dude said where there's smoke etc

???????????? what are you talking about? we saw her looking like she kissed a dude in the past when MC was a kid???????? and then again during the door????????? or are you going to suddenly tell me that you explicitly saw her giving tongue action to multiple guys behind that solid opaque wall via some coping?????

Well, can you?

At best, it implies that she kissed someone in those instances, that only means she "may or may not" have kissed someone, and that's the reason why we are in this mess of a situation in the first place. While it looks likely, it's not clear that she did, or didn't.

Do you not understand why I kept using the word "explicitly"?
It means very clear, very specific, not implied, direct.

While it's very likely that she did kissed a dude in the past when MC was a kid (though that would be of no real importance in the present day), the one by the door has more leeway for whatever bs the author can come up with as the alternative.

What we CAN confirm are the times Luna's lips made contact with Naoto's. We cannot deny those didn't happen because they were directly shown to be actually happening to the readers, NOT HIDDEN by the "camera angle", or a wall, or merely being someone's imagination.

You can ignore the signs the author is deliberately making things ambiguous all you want but I def won't because correlation does not imply causation. As long as there's wiggle room for the author to somehow bullshit their way out of that scenario, then I will continue to withhold my verdict.

Her possibly having had a partner in the past does not mean she is a slut in the present. It just meant she possibly had a partner in the past.

The only way she MIGHT not be sleeping around now or in the past is if the author comes up with some MISUNDERSTANDING bullshit like I stated b4 in that yea she wasn't sleeping around it ONLY seemed like it, the sleeping moaning wasn't seggs or masturbation it was her using the massage on her shoulders and her feeling good, the spit string wasn't a kiss it was her eating something etc aka bullshit misunderstandings

That's exactly it.

The fact that you can even think that A REASON she might not be sleeping around is because of a MISUNDERSTANDING bullshit, is all it takes.

An alternative explanation still exists, it is still a possibility, no matter how improbable it is, it could still be the truth. The same could be said the other way round, it is still a possibility that Luna is a slut.

All of this is because the author refused to explicitly show what actually happened.

 

[HAt_Sauce234]

This is a manga that I have consistently been scared to read the next chapter.
I'm a Luna bro through and through and just want a happy resolution.
(I'm not reading any of the other comments this time)

 

[Heika]

She didn't have any of the usual manga reactions to seeing porn. I'm... starting to think Luna-nee might actually just be a whore for real, guys.

 

[Goldni]

the curse of the blackboxes

 

[arcosapphire]

Its because they don't like a series in which MC gets with a slut, they don't like women who sleeps around etc etc
It happens to multiple series with a FML who is a slut, its quite interesting reading peoples comments imo lol

The only reason I'm reading this is the original hinted premise that she's a slut. Every time, I hope that it doesn't go down the "actually it was a misunderstanding" route or the "she was, but now that she has found True Love™, she'll immediately fall into all social expectations of monogamy" route.

I don't think it's ever worked out for me. It's always one or the other.

I still want to see how this goes, but the entire time I've felt that the author is jerking us around and will go down one of those deeply rutted roads. People here are basically picking sides between those two routes, but in my mind they're equally disappointing, two sides of the same coin, and I really want the third option that never happens.

But I'm pretty certain I'll be disappointed as always.

 

[exxeld]

huh so she's just now developing her feelings for him?
I thought the series this entire time was about the nee san leading the mc along on his cuck training arc while secretly harboring like a deep love for him but she was actually just sleeping around in front of mc for no reason then lmao.

 

[Iamcheater]

Ahh, sweet freedom from spoiler jail.

First off, thank you RadeonScans!

Second, curse you black boxes! ...again!


Because those are circumstantial evidence at best. Unless Luna is explicitly shown actually doing said deeds, there will be room for other interpretations, reasonable doubts, random Jojo levels of plot armor shenanigans. Never underestimate the power of random plot armor bullshit shenanigans.

We've never actually seen Luna explicitly kissing someone other than Naoto in this chapter. We've seen her do something that seemed like she is kissing someone, but because we never actually see her lips making contact with another's, we cannot confirm or deny it until the author actually shows it. It's one thing with the usual normal manga, but this one specifically is made with "did she or did she not?" in mind.


There is the theory where the characters aren't entirely humans, possibly tying together with the author's other ongoing work, which is an isekai. The main argument being Luna and Hiba's eyes aren't eyes used by human characters when drawn by the author, and her being somewhat promiscuous, or her "slutty acts" could be tied to her nature if she turned out to be something like succubi or the like. Shark girl's "shark teeth" and remarks about the MC's canines are also tied to the theory. The prior being obviously unusual to have as a normal human, and the latter being unusual to point out "not changing since he was little" and sometimes being emphasized, unless it has some importance to be revealed later on.

The door kiss may be questionable but the kiss when she was in high school is impossible not to be a true kiss. She's closing her eyes, leaning towards him... This was a kissing scene and the reason you are not seeing the lips in that scenario is because the guy she kissed has to remain hidden either because 1)He will come back so he's kept as a surprise 2) He didn't matter at all and author is trying to diminish the importance of the kiss and his involvement by not allowing us to see him.

Either way, there are just too many threads to pull and the author has created an impossible situation to debunk each and every interaction as a optical "illusion" without making this science fiction.

While I appreciate that he has done recent isekai stuff I don't think the author is going to pull that card on this series. There would have been some kind of hint, because this will drastically change the theme of the manga.

 

[Iamcheater]

The only reason I'm reading this is the original hinted premise that she's a slut. Every time, I hope that it doesn't go down the "actually it was a misunderstanding" route or the "she was, but now that she has found True Love™, she'll immediately fall into all social expectations of monogamy" route.

I don't think it's ever worked out for me. It's always one or the other.

I still want to see how this goes, but the entire time I've felt that the author is jerking us around and will go down one of those deeply rutted roads. People here are basically picking sides between those two routes, but in my mind they're equally disappointing, two sides of the same coin, and I really want the third option that never happens.

But I'm pretty certain I'll be disappointed as always.

So you want an NTR story where the girl is a slut that continues to cuck the MC and the MC enjoys it but she is still "in love" with him?

Yeah this is is not going to be that, she will defo renounce her thottery for him but I have the thing just for you

"There's Something Loose in Her Head"

That's what you need. Chapters are not on Mangadex anymore (uploader took them down) but they exist on toonily or other similar sites. It's exactly what you are looking for. Literally made for you and it's a completed story. Enjoy.

 

[shinya78]

She's closing her eyes, leaning towards him... This was a kissing scene and the reason you are not seeing the lips in that scenario is because the guy she kissed has to remain hidden either because 1)He will come back so he's kept as a surprise 2) He didn't matter at all and author is trying to diminish the importance of the kiss and his involvement by not allowing us to see him.

Either way, there are just too many threads to pull and the author has created an impossible situation to debunk each and every interaction as a optical "illusion" without making this science fiction.

While I appreciate that he has done recent isekai stuff I don't think the author is going to pull that card on this series. There would have been some kind of hint, because this will drastically change the theme of the manga.

Like I said, it doesn't really matter in the present day if that was an actual kiss or not. It more or less served its purpose setting up the 'birthday kiss promise', leading to the flood gates being opened for them both. Because now that at this point, the author is blatantly pushing Luna unto Naoto. A surprise call-back featuring the guy in the present would be an actual surprise, writing-wise.

The isekai part is still on the table (Luna's and Hiba's eyes mirroring the other-world characters from the isekai work), kid!Naoto misremembering a flashback because he's a kid at the time is still on the table. These are just some options the author can take, who knows exactly what they'll do.

The isekai connection doesn't have to be put up front, it could just be just part of the characters' backstory/background. Improbable, sure, but the odds that the author will not pull an "it's secretly an isekai" is not zero, especially because both are being worked at the same time, some crossover ideas are bound to spill. It all depends on how the author implements it at this point. Should the author pull the isekai card, I'll let you know before you even read the future summaries.

 

[erintesden]

Seeing all these angry people in the comments is actually more puzzling than what's happening in the entire manga.

Its exactly the same case than with "Someone's Girlfriend", people theorizing if the love interest is a "slut" and whats her deal.

 

[arcosapphire]

So you want an NTR story where the girl is a slut that continues to cuck the MC and the MC enjoys it but she is still "in love" with him?

No, NTR/cuck implies the romantic pair aren't sexually involved. I'm just talking about a character being sexually free and active, and their partner neither having a problem with it nor trying to change them.

 

[ComeEndTheKitty]

That was hot!

This really took the series to a new level.

btw
@Radeon-sama
This should really be tagged as "erotica".