Sasha-chan to Classmate Otaku-kun - Ch. 77 - Her Secret ♥ Job. (Part 2)

[MiguelH224]

Master has NO RIGHT to be jealous, he needs to sit down and get cheated on!

This just screams self projection

 

[Ensashapedia]

While I wasn't a fan of a bunch of weirdo's being around sasha it was REALLY nice to see sasha getting angry at being ignored because it shows she craves his attention MEANING if another girl steals it away she will 100% rage/panic over it

I feel like you're holding out hope that Sasha will one day be exclusive to Master and vice versa.
I have to tell you that it's very unlikely.
Their happy ending is going to be a very open relationship/marriage.

https://haghag.fanbox.cc/posts/8802882

 

[dokidoki]

I feel like you're holding out hope that Sasha will one day be exclusive to Master and vice versa.
I have to tell you that it's very unlikely.
Their happy ending is going to be a very open relationship/marriage.

https://haghag.fanbox.cc/posts/8802882

Yea I'm not surprised that the true ending is the one where MC is a cuck but hey that was a obvious thing to know when you see how the author writes the story, my wishing is just that my wish because I think it would look great if MC somehow pulled sasha away from the slut life/influence of her whore cheating mother into a Master ONLY relationship BUT still filled with mad degen stuff because that's what they are

This happy ending you said isn't how I see a happy end, I feel like its the equivalent of a story in which one of the characters gets mindbroken but stays with their lover OR becomes the slave toy of the lover OR lets pretend its monster girls aka forced to give birth forever as a seedbed.....I don't consider those happy endings EVEN tho they are together and no one dies but just like that the cuck/open relationship to me is a bad end so it sounds more like Sasha pulled master to her shit world instead of Master rescuing Sasha from her shit world

 

[arcosapphire]

Yea I'm not surprised that the true ending is the one where MC is a cuck

It's sad that basically no one here understands the difference between cuckolding and hotwifing.

Cuckolding is a humiliation fetish: someone being told that they are pathetic and inadequate and can't measure up to what others can do, sexually. For whatever reason, they enjoy being shamed in this manner.

Hotwifing is just enjoying your partner having a pleasurable experience with someone. There is no humiliation or shame involved.

Sasha likes her master the best, and he gets tons of inspiration from watching her have sex. She shows him to make him feel good, not bad. She's never been disappointed in him or even pretended so.

This manga does not depict cuckoldry.

 

[Ensashapedia]

Yea I'm not surprised that the true ending is the one where MC is a cuck but hey that was a obvious thing to know when you see how the author writes the story, my wishing is just that my wish because I think it would look great if MC somehow pulled sasha away from the slut life/influence of her whore cheating mother into a Master ONLY relationship BUT still filled with mad degen stuff because that's what they are

This happy ending you said isn't how I see a happy end, I feel like its the equivalent of a story in which one of the characters gets mindbroken but stays with their lover OR becomes the slave toy of the lover OR lets pretend its monster girls aka forced to give birth forever as a seedbed.....I don't consider those happy endings EVEN tho they are together and no one dies but just like that the cuck/open relationship to me is a bad end so it sounds more like Sasha pulled master to her shit world instead of Master rescuing Sasha from her shit world

IMHO you're too hung up on this Mother, thing. The Mother isn't even a character. All we have is a brief background description of her from a doujin that's not even canon to the manga, or at least mostly. Sasha was fucking before her Mother ever took her away. Sasha just loves sex. LOOOOOOVES sex. So she's always going to seek it out, and she wants a partner that matches that. That's Master.

 

[spitfiremase]

It's sad that basically no one here understands the difference between cuckolding and hotwifing.

Cuckolding is a humiliation fetish: someone being told that they are pathetic and inadequate and can't measure up to what others can do, sexually. For whatever reason, they enjoy being shamed in this manner.

Hotwifing is just enjoying your partner having a pleasurable experience with someone. There is no humiliation or shame involved.

Sasha likes her master the best, and he gets tons of inspiration from watching her have sex. She shows him to make him feel good, not bad. She's never been disappointed in him or even pretended so.

This manga does not depict cuckoldry.

yeah making it out like any sort of open dynamic is cuckoldry relies on some idea that a man who can't reign in their girl actually isn't man enough, and a proper man would change that. This ignores people's personal choices and preferences, the idea that people can feel different about sex, or that women, independently can have a vibrant and complex sexuality within themselves

Master clearly isn't a cuck. a relationship with openness isn't cuckoldry. I think i mentioned in another chapters thread that, while he gets flustered at the idea of her being so flippant about it, and this happens here in these last two chapters, he's clearly not crazy about the fans touching her and being so close, but it's mostly about her feeling herself, and showing off for her fans, it's clearly erotic, but no sex takes place. He recognizes, that to an extent that his discomfort is him projecting expectations onto her (this is a refrain that's repeated a lot, first in his conversation about senpai with Aoi, and then several other times since), and his sexual openness in ero-manga, and his interest in getting to know Sasha drives him to try to understand Sasha's sexuality, and break down his barriers especially since he's a bit of a freak too, ero-manga is exactly the sort of work that people write and read to explore fantasy and sexuality so there's no reason to act like a more open set up isn't something that Master won't be ok with as long as their are boundaries. Sasha is clearly Master's girl.

Even if they don't end up exclusive, that's his girl. If we just take the contents of the serialization, because that's what we're talking about, Since Sasha has started to chat him up at the start of the manga, she's been flirty, she's been openly erotic or wanting to talk about eroticism, and she's been outgoing the way that she is, and, as far as we can tell (and what I personally infer, and i don't think it's a bad inference) since around the time of the 'marking', or somewhere in that range of the events of Volume 3 (and maybe before that), she's scaled back fooling around with others to hang out or talk with master (and inevitably sleeping with him by the end of Volume 4). For much of the content of the manga, even before they slept together (and even before we knew much about Sasha's sexual history, and they were just talking about ero-manga and flirting), she's been super interested in master's affection and teasing him, encouraging him, and what that does to both of them, and choosing him over other boys (i guess it was sanada senpai in the phone shopping chapter, but still, that's her choosing him over a sexual encounter). The hug in chapter 30 that has Sasha bent all out of shape has her explain by herself that a hug doesn't usually doesn't have her feel 'that way', and it pissed her off that just a hug could do that.

Sasha also said that she won't cheat or sleep around like that if they're together. I believe her! With the way Sasha talked to her dad and talked to the maids in the most recent chapter, maybe they're together already and he doesn't know, lmao. But, the single instance of sex that we know for sure happened in a post marking world that wasn't only with master was actually Sanada being cucked and emasculated with Master getting all of Sasha's attentions, which is something that she only did AFTER master agreed to it (and she'd only do it IF master agreed to it, per Sanada), basically tricking Sanada into being cucked because at that point, we knew that Sasha isn't really interested in Sanada either sexually or emotionally. The other mentions of sex since then have been about hypotheticals, mostly involving potential references for Master's manga, that are probably mostly to rile Master up. Those would only happen if he agreed and if she got sufficient 'data' for him. If this were to happen, it simply wouldn't be cuckoldry, or cheating, or sleeping around. it would be 'sex industry professionals' doing their job to help each other. Sasha is Master's girl.

Spoiler

If we talk about the master-sasha doujins, all i've seen from those - and i haven't seen them all, i've seen a good handful though - is him getting better and better at laying pipe, them yearning for each other during the downtime in them (i really like those parts of those) little slice of life portions that fit would fit right into these chapters seamlessly, and her inviting her baddie friend Konoha from one of Hagu's other idol doujins for an ffm threesome, so my boy is ok.

 

[spitfiremase]

While I wasn't a fan of a bunch of weirdo's being around sasha it was REALLY nice to see sasha getting angry at being ignored because it shows she craves his attention MEANING if another girl steals it away she will 100% rage/panic over it

I think it would be cute to see Sasha be jealous, even if it's unlikely. Would just be fun to see the tables turned a little bit.


She's Sasha and he's master, so at the end of the day It would just end up in some consensual sex act that everyone would be ok with for the sake of eromanga anyways

 

[dokidoki]

IMHO you're too hung up on this Mother, thing. The Mother isn't even a character. All we have is a brief background description of her from a doujin that's not even canon to the manga, or at least mostly. Sasha was fucking before her Mother ever took her away. Sasha just loves sex. LOOOOOOVES sex. So she's always going to seek it out, and she wants a partner that matches that. That's Master.

That I did not know, I thought Sasha's mother introduced her into the world of Gravure and in that sense the sex industry and its because that's something that she herself works with AND she is also the one who punishes her ex husband by cheating(?) or was it moving away with sasha, either way her mother is someone that punishes her husband and we've seen that sasha herself does the same with her father hence why we see her mothers bad influence on sasha and its WHY I'm worried she will copy her mother and hurt MC with cheating or other stuff

But it seems to me from your comment that sasha is just a character that loves sex and we don't know what started it which is funny because I thought what started it was a combination of the gravure sex industry AND sasha being lonely looking for a father/family figure hence why she kept doing it with men

But like I said b4 I'm obviously just overreading it and taking this series WAY too serious when we all know what type of person the author is LOL

 

[spitfiremase]

But it seems to me from your comment that sasha is just a character that loves sex and we don't know what started it which is funny because I thought what started it was a combination of the gravure sex industry AND sasha being lonely looking for a father/family figure hence why she kept doing it with men

Fwiw I think you can be lonely and look for a father/protector figure (seems that way based on Futoshi route, and especially how she framed her behavior, in some degree to 'punishing him' until she saves her, and we've only gotten loneliness in the serialization that has been helped by Master constantly being around, so not much dad stuff yet) and search for that using sex, or be pressured into sex by a hypersexual industry, and just genuinely love the pleasure that sex brings.

In fact, the first one makes sense in light of the 3rd one.

Its also possible to like and enjoy sex and have a bad relationship with it. Idk if Sasha counts as that, she seems pretty lucid for the most part but trying to replace companionship with only sex can have bad outcomes, and it's clear that many other men don't exactly have her best interests at heart, so she's gotten lucky with Master and with having a writer that lets her get away with everything, because she is his beloved creation.

 

[Ensashapedia]

That I did not know, I thought Sasha's mother introduced her into the world of Gravure and in that sense the sex industry and its because that's something that she herself works with AND she is also the one who punishes her ex husband by cheating(?) or was it moving away with sasha, either way her mother is someone that punishes her husband and we've seen that sasha herself does the same with her father hence why we see her mothers bad influence on sasha and its WHY I'm worried she will copy her mother and hurt MC with cheating or other stuff

But it seems to me from your comment that sasha is just a character that loves sex and we don't know what started it which is funny because I thought what started it was a combination of the gravure sex industry AND sasha being lonely looking for a father/family figure hence why she kept doing it with men

But like I said b4 I'm obviously just overreading it and taking this series WAY too serious when we all know what type of person the author is LOL

Right so all we know about her mother comes from the doujin she was mentioned in. Details may change later if Hagu actually brings her into the manga. All we currently "know" about Sasha's mother is that she is a regular fashion model, not gravure or anything like that. She cheated on Sasha's father a few times, and eventually led to divorce. After the divorce, she took Sasha with her to Japan just to fuck with the ex-husband. Sasha is mad at her father for not speaking up when her mother took her away. Hence the sex tapes.

As for Sasha starting her sex life, for now we can loosely assume that her otaku uncle took her virginity as well as where she became such a fan of hentai and manga. Hagu hinted at this when answering fan questions once. That's also a detail that could change in the future. Sasha only started gravure and jr idol stuff after getting to Japan.

 

[onetimeview22]

yeah making it out like any sort of open dynamic is cuckoldry relies on some idea that a man who can't reign in their girl actually isn't man enough, and a proper man would change that. This ignores people's personal choices and preferences, the idea that people can feel different about sex, or that women, independently can have a vibrant and complex sexuality within themselves

Master clearly isn't a cuck. a relationship with openness isn't cuckoldry. I think i mentioned in another chapters thread that, while he gets flustered at the idea of her being so flippant about it, and this happens here in these last two chapters, he's clearly not crazy about the fans touching her and being so close, but it's mostly about her feeling herself, and showing off for her fans, it's clearly erotic, but no sex takes place. He recognizes, that to an extent that his discomfort is him projecting expectations onto her (this is a refrain that's repeated a lot, first in his conversation about senpai with Aoi, and then several other times since), and his sexual openness in ero-manga, and his interest in getting to know Sasha drives him to try to understand Sasha's sexuality, and break down his barriers especially since he's a bit of a freak too, ero-manga is exactly the sort of work that people write and read to explore fantasy and sexuality so there's no reason to act like a more open set up isn't something that Master won't be ok with as long as their are boundaries. Sasha is clearly Master's girl.

Even if they don't end up exclusive, that's his girl. If we just take the contents of the serialization, because that's what we're talking about, Since Sasha has started to chat him up at the start of the manga, she's been flirty, she's been openly erotic or wanting to talk about eroticism, and she's been outgoing the way that she is, and, as far as we can tell (and what I personally infer, and i don't think it's a bad inference) since around the time of the 'marking', or somewhere in that range of the events of Volume 3 (and maybe before that), she's scaled back fooling around with others to hang out or talk with master (and inevitably sleeping with him by the end of Volume 4). For much of the content of the manga, even before they slept together (and even before we knew much about Sasha's sexual history, and they were just talking about ero-manga and flirting), she's been super interested in master's affection and teasing him, encouraging him, and what that does to both of them, and choosing him over other boys (i guess it was sanada senpai in the phone shopping chapter, but still, that's her choosing him over a sexual encounter). The hug in chapter 30 that has Sasha bent all out of shape has her explain by herself that a hug doesn't usually doesn't have her feel 'that way', and it pissed her off that just a hug could do that.

Sasha also said that she won't cheat or sleep around like that if they're together. I believe her! With the way Sasha talked to her dad and talked to the maids in the most recent chapter, maybe they're together already and he doesn't know, lmao. But, the single instance of sex that we know for sure happened in a post marking world that wasn't only with master was actually Sanada being cucked and emasculated with Master getting all of Sasha's attentions, which is something that she only did AFTER master agreed to it (and she'd only do it IF master agreed to it, per Sanada), basically tricking Sanada into being cucked because at that point, we knew that Sasha isn't really interested in Sanada either sexually or emotionally. The other mentions of sex since then have been about hypotheticals, mostly involving potential references for Master's manga, that are probably mostly to rile Master up. Those would only happen if he agreed and if she got sufficient 'data' for him. If this were to happen, it simply wouldn't be cuckoldry, or cheating, or sleeping around. it would be 'sex industry professionals' doing their job to help each other. Sasha is Master's girl.

Spoiler

If we talk about the master-sasha doujins, all i've seen from those - and i haven't seen them all, i've seen a good handful though - is him getting better and better at laying pipe, them yearning for each other during the downtime in them (i really like those parts of those) little slice of life portions that fit would fit right into these chapters seamlessly, and her inviting her baddie friend Konoha from one of Hagu's other idol doujins for an ffm threesome, so my boy is ok.

I agree pretty heavily with this; however, I cant say that I find this fully exclusive from cuckhodry though I think its closer to an open relationship. I would agree that I don't think master is a cuck but I don't think at least at this stage he's really on board with Sasha sleeping around though he accepts it for the sake of his art. I think this strengthens the manga though and i think it helps the manga to be almost like a struggle for master between his love for Sasha and want for her to be exclusive with him (which I also agree she would do if asked) and his love for his art and want for it to reach its full potential. I think its a wonderful setup and I'd like to see how it goes.

 

[spitfiremase]

The girl who lived!

I basically have to find new places to read everything else I was in the middle of reading or rereading, lmaooooooo. And good luck finding new chapters. Time to learn Japanese, ig.

Can you believe they got Gal Cleaning of all things? Stuff like that is worse than losing something popular.

This explains why panda has this barrier to entry, I believe.

 

[Fugutron]

Curses! Cockblocked by being poor!

 

[lobomenor]

im afraid to ask whats the video about