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Anyone else having a hard time supporting the protagonist?
There's a protagonist?Anyone else having a hard time supporting the protagonist?
what an insane profile pic with that comment on this mangaWell....
It's the innkeeper girl and she willingly choose to join the demon side.
Basically since this village is in the middle of nowhere + has nothing special nobody really stay here, so once the heroes leave to go leveling the inn will likely be shutdown and the girl sold off.
So Eris make contact and ask if she want to join the demon instead.
That said
Ricola do eventually join the demon side, far more willingly than her sister.
Not really, he's doing whatever he can to survive. And despite him raping the girls until they obey him, their fates if they go down the story is bleak.Anyone else having a hard time supporting the protagonist?
I guess...I just have a hard time considering these to be happier endings when they're basically having their personalities overwritten. I guess it comes down to "would you rather live a tragic life as yourself or be happy but possessed forever?"Not really, he's doing whatever he can to survive. And despite him raping the girls until they obey him, their fates if they go down the story is bleak.
As long as he can later provide them with a better future, I can support him.
Or teleporting, or clipping through a wall.Did the MC have some sort of invisibility glitch prepared for just such an occasion?
I didn't say it WAS an happier ending, I said "as long as he can later provide a happier ending". Alice is already onto a better fate but it's not the same for the other girls. He's going to have to work to get them a ending better than what they originally would have had.I guess...I just have a hard time considering these to be happier endings when they're basically having their personalities overwritten. I guess it comes down to "would you rather live a tragic life as yourself or be happy but possessed forever?"
It doesn't matter what future they have, better or worse, they're possessed. He can give them the best lives in the world, but they're no longer themselves.I didn't say it WAS an happier ending, I said "as long as he can later provide a happier ending". Alice is already onto a better fate but it's not the same for the other girls. He's going to have to work to get them a ending better than what they originally would have had.
And yeah, the only people who will choose the former option you said is a stubborn fool, with an emphasis on the fool part. Giving up a part of me to avoid a set tragic life? That doesn't even need consideration, even less if that tragic life includes my loved ones.
Oh, then answer this: In your however many years of your life, you have NEVER been influenced by something else? Someone else? Some religion? Some way of thought that you personally didn't come up with? You, by the extension of living, are control in some way or fashion by the world around you. Whether you're smart enough to realize that is a different story. If I still have my own thoughts even if it's influenced by something else, they are still mine. But hey, if that's too much for you please feel free to expire at any time, cause you're already living the life you see no point living for.It doesn't matter what future they have, better or worse, they're possessed. He can give them the best lives in the world, but they're no longer themselves.
That's where we differ. Whats the point of living if you're not you? None, since you're already dead as something else has taken control of you and your life.
Yes, I've had things influence my behavior, mostly my own mistakes. However, we're not taking about simple influence here. These characters are literally being possessed against their wills. We've seen visual representation, multiple times, of the magic corrupting and possessing them. None of them wanted anything to do with this, never consented to it, but are having their entire will overwritten until it's no longer them. Sure, some semblance of their personality remains, but we actively see that it's the magic in control, not them, and that their original senses of self are pretty much dead or dying. That's a very far cry from merely making a change in your life from outside influence.Oh, then answer this: In your however many years of your life, you have NEVER been influenced by something else? Someone else? Some religion? Some way of thought that you personally didn't come up with? You, by the extension of living, are control in some way or fashion by the world around you. Whether you're smart enough to realize that is a different story. If I still have my own thoughts even if it's influenced by something else, they are still mine. But hey, if that's too much for you please feel free to expire at any time, cause you're already living the life you see no point living for.
Ignorance is bliss but at the same time a damn sin. Also please notice how I added "includes my loved ones", Caroline's fate doesn't just stop at her but also her little sister. If she still choose the path of a tragic life knowing that: Stubborn. Fool.
Nah, on point for me. If you're asking what's the point of living? Then my answer will always be "Then why not choose death?" If that answer is too excessive....then don't ask the question to begin with. Death cures all! Even fools.....sometimes. So....watch your words, I'll always choose the worst ones to answer to it with. But that's just my SLIGHT sadistic tendencies...Yes, I've had things influence my behavior, mostly my own mistakes. However, we're not taking about simple influence here. These characters are literally being possessed against their wills. We've seen visual representation, multiple times, of the magic corrupting and possessing them. None of them wanted anything to do with this, never consented to it, but are having their entire will overwritten until it's no longer them. Sure, some semblance of their personality remains, but we actively see that it's the magic in control, not them, and that their original senses of self are pretty much dead or dying. That's a very far cry from merely making a change in your life from outside influence.
As for choosing to stay on path to a tragic life, that's not something she'll ever get. MC hasn't informed anyone of the future and it's doubtful he will. There is actually a possibility that, if he were to inform them of the grim futures awaiting them, he wouldn't need to resort to mind control as they would join willingly, but this doesn't seem to be that kind of series. The name of the game here is non-consentual, so this entire conversation is kind of a moot point, as he's going to continue mind controlling them, regardless.
Side note: awfully excessive to tell someone who disagrees with you about the morality of a manga character to go die.