Watashitachi wa Moto Joshi desu - Ch. 17 - The Truth

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i wonder roughly how widespread/widely known gender-change is in-universe? i ask this because transvestigating just wasnt a thing pre....pre 2016 ish. or at least not as visible.

im gonna knock on the manga a little bit here. "passing" is a scale from 0 to 100, and rinko is pretty close to 100. but in my experiences when youre close to 100 that means only other transgender people are able to clock you. cis people cant tell. in this manga, squintboy is presumably cis. but he could tell, somehow, and he didnt seem to spend much time with her either. and he also knows of breast forms and tucking underwear? fuck kinda porn does he watch?

even if your transvestigating says 1% of all women are trans, youre still probably gonna be more wrong than right just cuz of base rate fallacy. (for the record: i distrust statistics that say "1% of the adult population is transgender". does not pass my sniff test. 1 out of 100 people are LGBT, yes, i can believe that. 1 out of 100 is transgender? no, T is a minority within LGBT) (people will fight me on this because gallup reports a much higher percentage, but the number is so high that, again, it feels very wrong to me)

btw, boobs are a cheat code to getting gendered correctly too (or so ive heard). dunno about bulge tho. most mens pants are loose enough that no bulge is visible no matter how big your junk is. whens the last time you passed by a dude irl on the street and went "damn he packing!!!!!"? i bet never

i kinda rambled here but yeah. manga is cranking up the Gender(tm) dial again and im all here for it. ps if squintboy ends up squintgirl im gonna flip a table
I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but I just think it's incredibly funny that we're calling him slit eyes and squintboy, and it's only permissible because this is a manga and the characters don't look Japanese.
 
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At first I thought the fucker was joking or was making a comment, but then I realized "oh he's actually serious about this".

Who the frick would accuse someone like that? "Ah you look like a girl, but you're a guy aren'tcha? Easily could do that these days." Yeah, he's right but without context that's just plain rude.
 
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my gut is telling me things will only get so much worse for our mc
 
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Closed-eyes guy is crazy as hell for hitting on rinko, getting called out, and immediately being like "You're a guy aren't you 😈 I can tell you know..."

Spectacular art in this chapter! Always a delight to see this updated, thanks for the translation!
 
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Good story, clean artstyle with dynamic moments, great character interactions and excellent dialogue... I just love the complexity in Miho's character.

Besides any perspectives, I'm glad Its popular. I wonder if its also popular in japan, I want to buy a version in my country (México).
 
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It's sad to see her internalizing what he said. What this guy did is not only extremely weird, but he also straight up trampled on her feelings.
Like, if you can tell she has man's body, and you can Sherlock your ass onto the conclusion that maybe she's a recent victim of the magical gender changing disease... Maybe you would think "Oh shit, that's probably tough huh"
And not trying to confront the person in front of everyone like she owes you something.
 
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I need to bring in a random to speed up the plot because it's taking too long - Author

lmao
I like this explanation. Do we really need anymore chapters of status quo resetting? Like, which is worse: (A) briefly watching a person be forcibly outed or (B) watching the slow degrage as she's eaten alive by external and internal traumas? The aftermath of the reveal was coming either way. The character is going to deal it no matter what, but I feel like I personally am less affected by this outcome than the other. Maybe others would have preferred the cancer, but I'll take the car accident, thanks.
 
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There's no way that that confrontation is gonna end so easily and neatly. I'm calling it right now that the boy with the closed eyes is gonna out Rinko to the school. Probably next chapter or the one after.
 
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I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but I just think it's incredibly funny that we're calling him slit eyes and squintboy, and it's only permissible because this is a manga and the characters don't look Japanese.
Apparently the word that Japanese use is kitsuneme, fox eyes. Which makes sense, the characters are usually like kitsune, crafty and devious.
 
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Closed-eyes guy is crazy as hell for hitting on rinko, getting called out, and immediately being like "You're a guy aren't you 😈 I can tell you know..."

Spectacular art in this chapter! Always a delight to see this updated, thanks for the translation!
Maybe he's gay?
 
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I like this explanation. Do we really need anymore chapters of status quo resetting? Like, which is worse: (A) briefly watching a person be forcibly outed or (B) watching the slow degrage as she's eaten alive by external and internal traumas? The aftermath of the reveal was coming either way. The character is going to deal it no matter what, but I feel like I personally am less affected by this outcome than the other. Maybe others would have preferred the cancer, but I'll take the car accident, thanks.
I too prefer it when the Drama is speed through so I don't have to consume 10+ chapters of bullshit because the conclusion keeps getting delayed, I still find it funny as to how the author chooses to speed through the drama :aquadrink:
 
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considering the current state of mangadex, would you possibly consider uploading this series on dynasty as well? There are a lot of other crossdressing/genderbend/transgender series already on that site, I'd gladly put in the request to upload if you like
The problem is that I wasn't the one to do the first eight chapters. The first six were MTL and the next two are an actual translation, but not by me.

I'd have to redo the fist six chapters.

I'll do that only if MD goes down or this series is taken down.
 
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Poor Rinko, from being bullied in her childhood for having blond hair aka being mixed and hence not fitting in to NOW being a male and ONCE again not fitting in, its as if her whole life she was meant to be bullied, legit feelsbadman

I hope she gets to be with Mao but I'm going to laugh so dam bad if Mao SOMEHOW turns male too LMAO because this seems to ALWAYS happen in genderbends where the love interest turns male and becomes the husband of MC or something

But alas somehow I sadly don't think Mao x MC will work :angery:
 
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was it just me or did this all happen kind of randomly? idk if its cuz it hasnt been updated in a while thus i have not read this in a while but for some reason the reveal has been gearing up to be some sort of climax moment but nothing much has happened so far nor has anyone's past been revealed yet there's the randomly outing moment? pacing is weird but im interested to see where it goes from now
 
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I was thinking but wouldn't it be funny if fox boy ends up being the first person in this series to turn into a girl, for being a bitch to MC now he ends up a girl which makes him depressed because he was a god at volleyball and now he's like the weakest

Also anyone think that if the theory is true that Yuki was Mao's ex who turned into a male and became a horndog to Mao hence why they broke up, wouldn't that theory be interesting because that would mean MC is the 2nd girl who turns male who LIKED Mao meaning in a way Mao is turning the girls who like her into Males and since Mao only likes women(theory) then she ends up with no one :worry:
 
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Why are there people like him? Like, what was he trying to do when he said those things aside from hurting her?

Was he just actually joking and tried teasing her but went too far?

What's the psychology behind this?

Poor rinko had no choice but to reveal everything to everyone without being mentally ready.
 
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Funny how even though I dislike this community, I just can't stop crossing path with it. Was binge reading Iruma in Demon School the other month... and every single time this neither-male-nor-female demon appeared (Opera), people would always fight in the comment sections about whether it's a he, a she, a they or whatever.
I mean, I don't even understand why I read the comments every time. Maybe I should just stick with reading the chapters and that's it. Or is it the primitive entertainment of watching people fight over meaningless things?...
People who fight over characters gender are like the ahole from this chapter. Let the author (and the characters themselves) define their gender.
 
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Wtf is wrong with closed eyes guy ? That's just bullying to bring her down right in her face. Dont talk about people's insecurities like that, what an ass.
forced attempt at drama to move the plot forward, who knows
 

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