Love Bullet - Vol. 2 Ch. 12.1 - Twitter Extras + English License Announcement

[Amimikamoon]

Chiyo's bday is in february... do you think she was born on valentines day or the 29th during a leap year?

 

[Oeconomist]

around the world wars, when cupids were still using arrows but saw that humans made faster and much more efficient alternatives

By the early 16th a century, firearms were more used than bows in Western European wars.

 

[wlftchtr82]

By the early 16th a century, firearms were more used than bows in Western European wars.

Not in Japan, tho. I think it works in “divisions”, so Japan’s cupids and Europe’s didn’t exchange technology to the point you had Samurais getting shot by a love musket. At least not before travelling abroad became easier in the human world…

 

[ShayGuy]

Not in Japan, tho. I think it works in “divisions”, so Japan’s cupids and Europe’s didn’t exchange technology to the point you had Samurais getting shot by a love musket. At least not before travelling abroad became easier in the human world…

That just delays it to the late 16th century. Per the eminent historian Bill Wurtz:

“Knock knock. It’s Europe. No, they’re not here to take over. They just wanna sell some shit. Like clocks. And guns. And ♩ JESUS! So that’s cool. But everyone’s still fighting each other for control, now with guns.”

Also, watch Shōgun. Not just because it’s a good demonstration of the use of firearms in Japan in 1600, but because it’s a great show.

 

[space_sancho]

I want to buy pre order but I can't as I'm UK, ahhhhhhh.

We asked Yen Press if there are going to be any pre-order options for English-speaking countries that aren't US/Canada so I'll reply again if they respond!

That just delays it to the late 16th century. Per the eminent historian Bill Wurtz:

“Knock knock. It’s Europe. No, they’re not here to take over. They just wanna sell some shit. Like clocks. And guns. And ♩ JESUS! So that’s cool. But everyone’s still fighting each other for control, now with guns.”

Also, watch Shōgun. Not just because it’s a good demonstration of the use of firearms in Japan in 1600, but because it’s a great show.

If we get to a point where we get Chiyo's origin story it could shed a lot of light on Cupid culture of the past. Maybe bullets are much more "expensive" Karma-wise than arrows, so firearms weren't readily adopted until Cupids realized how much more efficient they could be. Or that more Cupids of the past weren't in a rush to return back to human life in the first place (not a good life to return to, etc.). The manga has been revealing more of the worldbuildling/lore with almost every chapter so I'm looking forward to what other things we'll learn in upcoming chapters.

 

[NippleToaster]

This author has a really good handle on their colors, just beautiful

 

[Oeconomist]

By the early 16th a century, firearms were more used than bows in Western European wars.

Not in Japan, tho. I think it works in “divisions”, so Japan’s cupids and Europe’s didn’t exchange technology to the point you had Samurais getting shot by a love musket. At least not before travelling abroad became easier in the human world…

I don't know why you should imagine the cupidae organized into autonomous national systems, but firearms were introduced in Japan in 1543, and swiftly began playing a very important rôle in warfare.

 

[doonser]

LOVE BULLET WILL BE RELEASED IN ENGLISH!!!

 

[wlftchtr82]

I don't know why you should imagine the cupidae organized into autonomous national systems, but firearms were introduced in Japan in 1543, and swiftly began playing a very important rôle in warfare.

I just assumed firearms became more widespread in Japan — as in everyone with military power had it — after the 18th century for some reason. It’s that Samurai imagery that is always stuck in the minds of people not knowledgable about Japan’s History.

But I still stand on the divisions thing. 100% don’t believe cupids did a lot of cultural interchange before travelling became easier for humans. They can fly, yeah, but that would be taxing I believe.

In human form, cupids would have to get on a boat and spend months to get to places, so I’d say they each stayed in their territory. Specially in Japan, since it’s an island. Pigeons would be the only ones operating all around the world since they migrate in packs — a lone cupid flying to America with their bare wings would become too tired and lost at sea, a group of pigeons would be able to get anywhere.

And why would they need to communicate that much, y’know? Not like their missions would require international cooperation. I think. Rare cases in the past, nowadays wouldn’t be uncommon to have a cupid follow a group of tourists from their country and ask for help on another.

So, yeah, I’d say they end up being somewhat independent from the other groups in each nation. They still respond to the Goddess and the rules she establishes, but day to day operations would NOT be the exact same everywhere in the globe — so, autonomous groups in a way.

 

[Oeconomist]

I just assumed firearms became more widespread in Japan — as in everyone with military power had it — after the 18th century for some reason. It’s that Samurai imagery that is always stuck in the minds of people not knowledgable about Japan’s History.

But I still stand on the divisions thing. 100% don’t believe cupids did a lot of cultural interchange before travelling became easier for humans. They can fly, yeah, but that would be taxing I believe.

In human form, cupids would have to get on a boat and spend months to get to places, so I’d say they each stayed in their territory. Specially in Japan, since it’s an island. Pigeons would be the only ones operating all around the world since they migrate in packs — a lone cupid flying to America with their bare wings would become too tired and lost at sea, a group of pigeons would be able to get anywhere.

And why would they need to communicate that much, y’know? Not like their missions would require international cooperation. I think. Rare cases in the past, nowadays wouldn’t be uncommon to have a cupid follow a group of tourists from their country and ask for help on another.

So, yeah, I’d say they end up being somewhat independent from the other groups in each nation. They still respond to the Goddess and the rules she establishes, but day to day operations would NOT be the exact same everywhere in the globe — so, autonomous groups in a way.

Who or what in the world would you imagine creating the cupidae, and for what purpose? Whence do you imagine the bows or guns coming?

 

[PixelGamer199]

Kinda goes with the theory that she was mooching off Koharu's love predictions. Just a young inexperienced cupid doing the bare minimum. My additional theory is that Kanna refused to shoot Koharu so that she would not get distracted and continue to feed her targets.

wait this could totally set up some angst in the future... "it's your fault i couldn't fall in love with aki" and all that...

 

[wlftchtr82]

Who or what in the world would you imagine creating the cupidae, and for what purpose? Whence do you imagine the bows or guns coming?

What?

 

[Oeconomist]

What?

You need a coherent construction. These cupidae have an assigned role. Assigned by whom or by what? They have gear. Whence does the gear come? When you answer those questions, why would national borders be meaningful? Why would current national borders be meaningful?

 

[Vasxus]

Is there a way to get a copy in australia?

 

[Oeconomist]

Is there a way to get a copy in australia?

A resale market will develop. I got my Japanese copy (wrapped and mint) through the resale market.

Mind you that you have my best wishes in getting your copy in the primary market.

 

[bruitist]

I want to buy pre order but I can't as I'm UK, ahhhhhhh.

Forbidden Planet stock Yen Press stuff, so they'll likely have it up for preorder eventually. It's not due till November and they're currently only listing up to stuff available in August (with one book from October).

 

[Dinnick]

Put in a pre-order through Amazon. Just started this and really digging it so far. Hopefully it can find success.

 

[wlftchtr82]

You need a coherent construction. These cupidae have an assigned role. Assigned by whom or by what? They have gear. Whence does the gear come? When you answer those questions, why would national borders be meaningful? Why would current national borders be meaningful?

Thank you, I was a BIT confused.

Bro my mind just goes to “it poofs in because the Goddess of Love sent them”. It’s just “you died in modern-day Japan, you act in modern-Japan”, “you died in modern-day Germany, you act in modern-day Germany”. By the way the system works, you’d HAVE to assume that in most cases the cupids who acted under different borders than the current one have already reincarnated.

Doesn’t change my argument that it would not have been needed to establish a communication between them all around the world. Japan base affairs are handled by Japan’s base. And they are magical beings who will reincarnate by magic, so you can assume that a bunch of orders and gear provided from up above come from the goddess and just manifest in their pseudo-quarters. But we still must assume that just because her children in other places use certain gear that ALL of them have to because it still comes down to cultural references and borders. The point of reference to these cupids is the human world since they can walk around it, you know? Why the heck would they have weaponry not commonly accepted in certain places just because they already exist?

It does come down to territory, therefore it comes down to borders and therefore the “divisions” aspect of how their “organisation” exists. We’ve only seen the girls act in Japan to japanese targets, so yes it does lead me to believe that the japanese cupids’ group acts separately from those in other countries.

This has already gone beyond the guns vs arrows thing, by the way. Guns could have been introduced in Japan and some of them might have experimented with it at a certain time but japanese cupids as a whole took longer to adhere to it. I am going back to the gear thing just to explain my point as to why I think they act “autonomously” to some extent.

 

[Oeconomist]

Thank you, I was a BIT confused.

Bro my mind just goes to “it poofs in because the Goddess of Love sent them”. It’s just “you died in modern-day Japan, you act in modern-Japan”, “you died in modern-day Germany, you act in modern-day Germany”. By the way the system works, you’d HAVE to assume that in most cases the cupids who acted under different borders than the current one have already reincarnated.

Doesn’t change my argument that it would not have been needed to establish a communication between them all around the world. Japan base affairs are handled by Japan’s base. And they are magical beings who will reincarnate by magic, so you can assume that a bunch of orders and gear provided from up above come from the goddess and just manifest in their pseudo-quarters. But we still must assume that just because her children in other places use certain gear that ALL of them have to because it still comes down to cultural references and borders. The point of reference to these cupids is the human world since they can walk around it, you know? Why the heck would they have weaponry not commonly accepted in certain places just because they already exist?

It does come down to territory, therefore it comes down to borders and therefore the “divisions” aspect of how their “organisation” exists. We’ve only seen the girls act in Japan to japanese targets, so yes it does lead me to believe that the japanese cupids’ group acts separately from those in other countries.

This has already gone beyond the guns vs arrows thing, by the way. Guns could have been introduced in Japan and some of them might have experimented with it at a certain time but japanese cupids as a whole took longer to adhere to it. I am going back to the gear thing just to explain my point as to why I think they act “autonomously” to some extent.

The cupidae are plainly incentivized to use gear selected more for effectiveness than for familiarity; if they were using bows when they could have been using guns, then we may infer that the choice of which gear was available was made by the provider, rather than by the cupidae. If the provider is making the choices, then interregional communication amongst the cupidae is pretty much irrelevant.

 

[space_sancho]

The cupidae are plainly incentivized to use gear selected more for effectiveness than for familiarity; if they were using bows when they could have been using guns, then we may infer that the choice of which gear was available was made by the provider, rather than by the cupidae. If the provider is making the choices, then interregional communication amongst the cupidae is pretty much irrelevant.

Cupids are incentivized to aim for efficiency but there are also plenty of reasons to not rush gathering Karma when being a Cupid is a comfortable existence. You're effectively immortal and the biggest downsides of taking your time are your friends/family aging without you and it taking longer to "get back" to your old life. But what's one year vs. two? Japan is a traditionalist culture and is known for being slow on the uptake to technological advancements in everyday situations (e.g. still using faxes, taking longer than most countries to swap to mostly card/epayments, their website UI's being decades behind, etc.). Combining this, it being confirmed that different weapons cost different Karma (a simple drone costs a month's worth of work so it's not a stretch to assume firearms are more expensive than bow+arrow), and what we've seen of the mentor system suggesting new Cupids will just go along with what their mentors give/teach them, there's a lot of potential friction for a whole country of Cupids to uniformly make a jump from arrows to firearms.