Kaiibu ~ M-ken Y-shi no Kai Genshou ni Tsuite~ - Vol. 1 Ch. 3 - The Katabami Shrine - Part 2

[MangaDex]

 

[danbellucci]

uooohh those cheeky brats needed correction!

 

[Ziya_Agafya]

Masterpiece

 

[Yuri_Enjoyer_Deluxe]

Ah... it all makes sense...

What's inside the Number 5 on the menu?

 

[SkyVentus]

uooohh those cheeky brats needed correction!

Fuck off

 

[onedumninja]

Damn bro. Everyone in the town is so twisted that they assume the kid offered her sister's life to escape. That's how little faith they have in each other...

 

[Saon]

Imo, having a person become a totem against their will and still not be possessed (which I'd like to assume is a separate matter in this story) kind of tickled my BS meter. Now if the sister was malicious and instead hid the last totem and they solved the problem differently, that would have been better.

Regardless, in the end both of them would have been fine if they'd just wait until adulthood, locking themselves in the shrine to avoid other specters if necessary.

 

[Syapaaye]

That conclusion was predictable since the start, but that's fine by itself. I just wish we knew about Ogawa sisters on a deeper level to feel attached enough so we could feel bad when one of them went poof like that. How close they were, what they went through, stuffs like that. The first chapter sacrifice, Karen, was also like that.
I feel like even though there are human characters in it, there aren't enough humans in it.

I get that maybe the author wants to really focus on the monsters, but the depiction and what horror they can induce have also been pretty shallow so far. Granted, it's only the 3rd chapter, I can only hope it gets better in the following chapters.

 

[mangaburner1979]

I love this manga and its wierd mix of tones. Second favorite currently running yuri horror series after this chapter.

 

[talihem]

That conclusion was predictable since the start, but that's fine by itself. I just wish we knew about Ogawa sisters on a deeper level to feel attached enough so we could feel bad when one of them went poof like that. How close they were, what they went through, stuffs like that. The first chapter sacrifice, Karen, was also like that.
I feel like even though there are human characters in it, there aren't enough humans in it.

I get that maybe the author wants to really focus on the monsters, but the depiction and what horror they can induce have also been pretty shallow so far. Granted, it's only the 3rd chapter, I can only hope it gets better in the following chapters.

I believe this is the mangaka's first serialization, so to a degree it's to be expected, but it keeps having these moments that make me wonder if the editor is particularly hands off or something. Aside from technical things like how the reveals are handled (why have Sakura fall instead of directly going for the much more impactful scene two pages after) or consistency things (why didn't Andou notice the organs or bugs when she went to pick up the teddy bear?), it's as you say, the characterization can be pretty weak.

The premise here is supposed to be that these kids are dealing with this terrible situation and resorting to sacrificing other people to try and get out of it. There needs to be a balance between "these characters are to be despised because they're doing something awful" and "there characters are to be sympathized with because they're in an awful situation". But it's not managing it well; they jump between gleeful malice and after-the-fact despair, with very little in between. There are opportunities to show other shades of their humanity and they just aren't being taken. Like here:

Why the Hell is she talking about it like it's her Stand or something? It's a horrible thing that's invaded and corrupted a place that has been a huge part of her life! Show some fear, show some hopelessness! Have her comfort her sister as this horrible thing is being done or something. Don't just hit the reader over the head with "I am the smug, cocky, more evil twin" again.

 

[Syapaaye]

There needs to be a balance between "these characters are to be despised because they're doing something awful" and "there characters are to be sympathized with because they're in an awful situation". But it's not managing it well; they jump between gleeful malice and after-the-fact despair, with very little in between.

I know, right. I wish the author had at least committed to the over the top villainy shit so when the characters got their comeuppance, we'd be like "serves you right, bitches."
This one is just... not even pyrrhic, nor hollow. It's just bland. Worse, confusing.

 

[Tachi31]

There needs to be a balance between "these characters are to be despised because they're doing something awful" and "there characters are to be sympathized with because they're in an awful situation". But it's not managing it well; they jump between gleeful malice and after-the-fact despair, with very little in between.

Felt that SO bad with the taunting in chapter 1 followed by "oh, I was going to be a hairdresser and go where it's bright and everyone's smiling when I got out of here" as she's dying.

And I get the impression that we're not going to get much depth to many characters other than the protags because they exist to try and pull some trick and kill them, only to be traumatised/killed themselves when it turns out prez is several steps ahead on the scheming.

Would be nice if after a few more asshole victims, the other students start to understand that these two are consistently beating specters and working together might be a good option...but episodic crazy monsters with weird rules is fun too, I guess?

 

[mangaburner1979]

I believe this is the mangaka's first serialization, so to a degree it's to be expected, but it keeps having these moments that make me wonder if the editor is particularly hands off or something. Aside from technical things like how the reveals are handled (why have Sakura fall instead of directly going for the much more impactful scene two pages after) or consistency things (why didn't Andou notice the organs or bugs when she went to pick up the teddy bear?), it's as you say, the characterization can be pretty weak.

The premise here is supposed to be that these kids are dealing with this terrible situation and resorting to sacrificing other people to try and get out of it. There needs to be a balance between "these characters are to be despised because they're doing something awful" and "there characters are to be sympathized with because they're in an awful situation". But it's not managing it well; they jump between gleeful malice and after-the-fact despair, with very little in between. There are opportunities to show other shades of their humanity and they just aren't being taken. Like here:

Why the Hell is she talking about it like it's her Stand or something? It's a horrible thing that's invaded and corrupted a place that has been a huge part of her life! Show some fear, show some hopelessness! Have her comfort her sister as this horrible thing is being done or something. Don't just hit the reader over the head with "I am the smug, cocky, more evil twin" again.

Its called camp and its why I love this manga so much already. It is a little silly to expect the kind of grounded realistic storytelling you and the other commenter describe from something that draws most of its influence from schlocky B-movie horror. Feels like both of you are partially critiquing the manga on what you want it to be rather than what it is trying to do. Its like watching Hausu and complaining about the shallow characterization of the girls the whole time

 

[KairikiSoul]

Looks interesting but ugh.. i hope every new character isn't just gonna be an asshole to the protagonist..

 

[danbellucci]

Why the Hell is she talking about it like it's her Stand or something? It's a horrible thing that's invaded and corrupted a place that has been a huge part of her life! Show some fear, show some hopelessness! Have her comfort her sister as this horrible thing is being done or something. Don't just hit the reader over the head with "I am the smug, cocky, more evil twin" again.

The author just wanted to draw a mesugaki

 

[amygdalate]

Thanks for translating!

 

[Skullkrusher]

Imo, having a person become a totem against their will and still not be possessed (which I'd like to assume is a separate matter in this story) kind of tickled my BS meter.

This specter appears to have rules at first, and the team does their best to fight within its rules. However, it was all in vain. The new girl even points it out - the ghost was following its rules at first, but when it realized it would be caught in an infinite loop, it just decided...not to follow its own rules anymore. It made the encounter feel arbitrary, like it was won by author fiat, not by anything the girls did. I would say it hurts the story a bit, but we were warned about this beforehand in chapter 1 - some of the most powerful specters really are just arbitrary, and it's down to luck and author fiat to get through things.

Then again, the appeal of the series isn't really about the supernatural, is it? Maybe the author just wants to draw cute girls getting pasted by invincible superghosts.

 

[Saon]

Then again, the appeal of the series isn't really about the supernatural, is it? Maybe the author just wants to draw cute girls getting pasted by invincible superghosts.

Sadly, I am more inclined towards this theory than anything else atm. Will see how the story goes but wouldn't surprise me if by the end, MC gets half the town done in and half free.

 

[AcidVlad]

Great entry

 

[Tachi31]

Sadly, I am more inclined towards this theory than anything else atm. Will see how the story goes but wouldn't surprise me if by the end, MC gets half the town done in and half free.

"Well, no more potential victims means the curse is basically broken, just like you wanted, right?" - Club prez, probably