Onna Chara de Isekai Teni shite Cheatppoi kedo Zako Chara na no de Medatazu Heiwa na Shomin wo Mezashimasu! - Ch. 8.2 - Summer vacation in Amkam

[Mivy]

Wow that went so fast especially since we knew it had Yuri tag but we had seen nothing of it and them boom

 

[Grye]

So uhhh
Lesbians huh

 

[Goldni]

we have upgraded to yuri

 

[dokidoki]

This is how I felt when MC was like "I'm a Man but I might fall in love with a man" bullshit statement

BUT THEN the YURI HAPPENED so LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Also its funny how the yuri happened with the girl with the largest Tits out of the group I see mc's taste

Now I'm curious if that girl's going to be MC's FL or not? because there's no harem tag but she also stated she loves MC

 

[Solipsist]

If you're perfectly rational, sure. People rarely are when suddenly assaulted.
Now, I've never been a walking nuke, but I've been threatened with a stabbing at the perpetrator's home. Looking at it rationally, there's no way you'd ever get away with stabbing someone in your own home over sex, so it's not a very realistic threat (at least in this social class and age group). I definitely shouldn't have complied, but I did.

In this scenario, you're a regular person. The MC would have no reason to "fear a stabbing".
It's as if an S-rank would fear a stabbing.

This is really not that hard. There are so many people projecting onto this.

 

[Solipsist]

It was more like a suspended bridge effect - the fear of something bad, out of her control, happening to her (being forcefully kissed by a man she did not know) caused her heart to race, and when she was embraced by someone she trusted she confused that heart racing for love.

And then you have the recovery of control. Rather than allowing someone else to take her first kiss (in this body), it's better for her to choose someone in the vicinity, and she feels safe in the arms of this girl she's friends with. The story is pretty much spelling it out that her body is influencing the mind.

This feels like a traumatized person trying to retake control over the event that traumatized her, but fortunately it led to an actual romance instead of more trauma or an unhealthy coping mechanism.

Now, for your take on the MC being a walking nuke, that's exactly why she can't do much. The story has already established she doesn't know how to control her massive strength in a fight yet, one mistake and she could end up killing someone. Even for an adult that's not something you take lightly.

You've put more effort into writing that copium filled devil's advocate, than the author bothered to write this chapter at all.

That's how I feel too. I'm a huge yuri fan, I read pretty much anything yuri I can find. But...this ain't it. This was just nonsensical bad writing, inexplicable pacing. The sort of thing that has me worried about an Axe of Damocles. Nothing about that scene felt natural at all. It seemed like a paper-thin excuse to have some fanservice with inappropriately young characters. In a word, ick.

And then it kinda launches straight into weird sexism. Like, attraction to men? Okay, plausible perhaps from hormonal influence, although certainly not a given. But then we get the shit about how embroidery is suddenly appealing? Because it's a thing girls do? That is...not based on hormones. That is based on social gender roles, how children are socialized, etc. But here we have someone who is already mentally an adult. It just straight up doesn't work that way, and it implies there's a fundamental connection between having a female body and wanting to engage in certain types of work, and that is just sexist as fuck.

A really unpleasant chapter to read overall. My hope for this story is dropping rapidly.

Read this comment^ phrased it better than I could've.

Aiight, I'm done with this thread.

 

[karpad]

Thanks for the upload!

 

[Dragou]

You've put more effort into writing that copium filled devil's advocate, than the author bothered to write this chapter at all.



Read this comment^ phrased it better than I could've.

Aiight, I'm done with this thread.

I explained why she behaves like she does (which you reacted with the dumb reaction), you calling it dumb and refusing it outright. I mean i guess without the skipped info its one thing, but with it, it gets rather sad.


I mean you can go and ignore it, say you dont like these societal double standards that exist regarding seduction and molesting (but then you need to go after Mia and the other girls too, because they dont do different stuff), could go raving about and demonizing everyone and everything or as the last option be a apostle of morals and try to change humanity. (Honestly if you achieve the last one I get impressed.)

Also if you see a character liking a hobby he never did previously and instantly judge it as sexism (which at NO POINT was stated its because he is a girl), thats a problem thats maybe not only on the author/story but on you too.
Regardless of that, its a MEDIEVAL world in a big part of its structure, which means it has differences to our modern times standards, BUT NOWHERE in this story are woman treated like you and the other post described it or want to make it seem like they do. Hell they have so many female fighters and so on, the whole statement of yours is already null and void. MC pursues these things because he want to, because her new mother teaches her and "NOT because its expected of a woman".

Every woman can and will get trained and treated just like the boys. So tell me where is the sexism part? Isnt it instead just the same if you go and forbid a girl liking cooking and embroidery and sewing just because she is a girl. Slight wake up call, thats sexism too.

I really hope people learn to grow up again and dont have a brain and critical thinking the size of twitter.

PS cant wait for your next dumb sticker, nice having you

 

[Khazar123]

Things you're interested in are of course influenced by your hormones and body... People can literally get depression from a fucked up gut biome. It is A factor of many that decides what you're interested in. People that grew up around cars and basically lived them could grow up and go into gardening instead. Humans are fickle and rarely are things set in stone with them.

Just because you fight gender roles advocates doesn't mean that going in the other extreme is somehow a virtue, the only thing it does is ostracize others or making them scared to do what they love to do, in fear of being seen as a sheep to the socially engineered gender roles.

Also this is a story, what the author thinks and what the MC thinks are still different things to varying degrees.
An old man wondering what kind of influence his new young body has is more than legit and it's not like MC was a scholar or especially educated. Very low interaction with women in general.

Many of the girls in the story also love fighting and are acting quite boyish, so it's not like the author is ignoring varying interests of the girls?

Also this is a translation and culture difference, things might get interpreted very differently by a Japanese native.

I'm not saying this great writing or not tropy, especially the eye rolling Casanova. But I think some people need to take a step back and stop projecting their politics and personal trauma this strongly on this.

All in all, I like to vent and bash here and there too. But maybe keep the vitriol in check.

 

[Dragou]

Things you're interested in are of course influenced by your hormones and body... People can literally get depression from a fucked up gut biome. It is A factor of many that decides what you're interested in. People that grew up around cars and basically lived them could grow up and go into gardening instead. Humans are fickle and rarely are things set in stone with them.

Just because you fight gender roles advocates doesn't mean that going in the other extreme is somehow a virtue, the only thing it does is ostracize others or making them scared to do what they love to do, in fear of being seen as a sheep to the socially engineered gender roles.

Also this is a story, what the author thinks and what the MC thinks are still different things to varying degrees.
An old man wondering what kind of influence his new young body has is more than legit and it's not like MC was a scholar or especially educated. Very low interaction with women in general.

Many of the girls in the story also love fighting and are acting quite boyish, so it's not like the author is ignoring varying interests of the girls?

Also this is a translation and culture difference, things might get interpreted very differently by a Japanese native.

I'm not saying this great writing or not tropy, especially the eye rolling Casanova. But I think some people need to take a step back and stop projecting their politics and personal trauma this strongly on this.

All in all, I like to vent and bash here and there too. But maybe keep the vitriol in check.

You are on point, but honestly my personal experience teached me, that we will see more of them in future chapters.
They will jump on even the slightest tiny point and keep pretending the other points dont exist OR they will see the big flags that they are wrong and then pretend its because of them that it changed and pat themselves on their backs.

Also to add to your point: the social norms and standards are different in the in story world than ours. Going and enforcing our views and norms onto everything is a very bad thing too.

 

[ultimatehaki]

Thats the line ... if succeding its seduction, if not its called molesting. The beauty of universal double standards. You dont need to like that but sadly it is what it is.

I don't count this as double standards. Sanji is hella flirty but he never tried getting intimate with a woman without basic introduction and getting the OK sign. These are completely different scenarios.

 

[Dragou]

I don't count this as double standards. Sanji is hella flirty but he never tried getting intimate with a woman without basic introduction and getting the OK sign. These are completely different scenarios.

They are not completely different. Sanji is a flirt who does things with words and cooking, while in his mind he is not different from Victor.
There are things like verbal and physical flirting (the second one is more often called womanizer/casanova) and like I said you dont need to like it but its still a thing.
Also its more played for the joke here without crossing any lines too much. It scrapes them with the kiss part you could argue but also in a story like this you shouldnt take it too seriously. Again you can dislike it but thats it at the end of the day.
Additionally you would need to blame all the other girls and even Susie too, because they dont behave much differently with Susie and Susie with them.

Dont go only after Victor but be like that with everyone.

 

[GooseBolt]

I'm hurrying to upset you - there will be no more women's kisses here. That was the maximum. But the dive into Mia's chest will be frequent.

Might drop this series, I have enough genderswap isekai im reading. This one while having superb style is quite boring atm.

 

[hentako]

Kiss/confession jump scare!
I don't mind it, by any means, but damn that seemed sudden.

 

[BanditHadron]

The sudden micro bikinis did not inspire hope, and this chapter just crashed the train and is letting it burn.

What the actual fuck, author. This was awful. The pacing was particularly atrocious.

 

[Wizardrone]

I was about to leave but I will wait until I read Lavie's story

 

[lolicon91379]

From weird dude to yuri to tragic past reveal.

I didn't get whiplash but it was still a super packed few pages.

oh no, did it get axed

 

[Dragou]

oh no, did it get axed

Shouldnt be. It was this packed in the novel too, just did flow a bit better overall.

 

[PvtRyan96]

If it's going to be slop, I'm just glad it's going to be slop with girl-on-girl, I guess? Positively wild pacing in this one.

 

[CarrotClowns]

"A random pervert is trying to molest me!"
"oh no you alright?!"
"no let's french kiss"

....What in the ludicrous B-rated fantasy is this?
I don't mind yuri, but what the fuck was that pacing?

Also, the MC knows she's an unstoppable force. It has nothing to do with previously being an old man. Dude's a walking nuke, and knows it. Has absolutely nothing and nobody to fear.
This is just dumb.

You're too used to Manga and anime. Couples often do this in reality; they'll kiss or hug each other tightly when something scary happens. This is especially true with kids, where kisses often happen randomly and suddenly. I enjoy a slow burn, Yuri, as much as the other viewer, but this is also realistic. It doesn't matter how strong the MC is, they can still get scared of things like in Saiki K when our all-powerful MC freezes up near bugs