Muryoku Seijo to Munou Oujo ~Maryoku Zero de Shoukansareta Seijo no Isekai Kyuukokuki~ - Ch. 11 - Back to the Castle

[TheLostLight]

Also, about having children, I assume the fruit has something to do with it? It may be more than just symbolic...

 

[UdenEmpati]

Also, about having children, I assume the fruit has something to do with it? It may be more than just symbolic...

I think the fruit has to do with royal succession, specifically, unless I misread something.
The fact it only comes into being once every 5 years would be super problematic if it was required for procreation for everyone in the world, and the way they were talking about it, it's not exactly a common fruit (otherwise why could they only have one royal wedding; could they not stock up on the fruit, or find a second suitable plant?)

I wager it's a sort of magical IVF process, but with imbibed potions and magical ritual.

 

[Khoopa]

since we're only focused on MC and her princess we don't really see much development of the other two.
and since the other two don't really need yuri kisses to proc magic I guess so far their relationship feels more transactional than emotional
but I would really love to see them and their relationship develop in their own way different from how our MCs have been doing where one is clueless gay and the other is slowly feeling the gay

 

[crimsondenmite]

I do hope this is not the final arc set up.. Usually Yuri mangas end at 25-30 chapters. The fact that we are already heading into the marriage arc, is a bit concerning.. We only had one proper arc, where our duo went out.. this arc will involve the exploration of the Eldora, saving the other Saint from marrying for political reasons, and the main duo getting the fruit. The next arc could be the final but I really hope it’s not and we get a lengthy adaptation of the series!! It’s a good series!

 

[WhimsiCat]

I think the fruit has to do with royal succession, specifically, unless I misread something.
The fact it only comes into being once every 5 years would be super problematic if it was required for procreation for everyone in the world, and the way they were talking about it, it's not exactly a common fruit (otherwise why could they only have one royal wedding; could they not stock up on the fruit, or find a second suitable plant?)

I wager it's a sort of magical IVF process, but with imbibed potions and magical ritual.

Since the fruit was mentioned for joining Saintess and Princess, it may be need more specifically for the Saintess to have children with people of this world.

After all even if both pair get married, the one who can have children will obviously be better choice to continue royal lineage.

 

[UdenEmpati]

Since the fruit was mentioned for joining Saintess and Princess, it may be need more specifically for the Saintess to have children with people of this world.

After all even if both pair get married, the one who can have children will obviously be better choice to continue royal lineage.

......where are you getting that the Saintess is the only one who can reproduce?

I think I misunderstood what you were saying at first, so disregard me. They say "Marriage" between princess and saint in the manga; I guess you could infer they actually mean copulation, in which case that would makes sense.
I idly wonder if it's a physiological difference or something, or it requires potions/magic/specific phases of the moon - but all of that's kinda pointless conjecture that's more worldbuilding than anything at this point.

 

[wlftchtr82]

Since the fruit was mentioned for joining Saintess and Princess, it may be need more specifically for the Saintess to have children with people of this world.

After all even if both pair get married, the one who can have children will obviously be better choice to continue royal lineage.

Makes sense, but I do believe it's more of a timing thing rather than one pair gets married and eats the fruit and the other doesn't. First couple marries and then the other marries only 5 years later. The couple who gets married first is already recognized as a royal couple (and capable of producing heirs right away) and therefore more favored to be the future ruler couple because during those 5 years they wait for the next fruit the princess can already rise to the throne.

If the fruit is what allows them to procreate (which kinda makes sense because we are talking about otherworld beings getting into the royal family), it wouldn't be too smart to have one of the couples not have children, because even if one of the princesses doesn't become queen, her children will also be in the line of succession and, y'know, as for the next queen... her children can fucking die and that'd be the end of the royal family so it's good to have spares (nieces).

In other cases, with only one saint, it was easier: first born gets the Japanese girl and the throne, eats the fruit, gets them babies, and younger siblings marry nobles and help maintain the bloodline alive. The blood is already somehow mixed with the saintesses (?) blood (like, all who came before and married into the family), so even children born out of two natives wouldn't be frowned upon if they needed to become queens. Now there are two isekai'd girls and conveniently two princesses so anything goes because Luliam wasn't considered a reliable heir despite being first born. But she's still on the race because the plot allows her to do so (if only one girl came in, she wouldn't be getting a waifu).

However, marrying 5 years later would be really bad for our MC couple because they already don't have a lot of support... So Daichi not really vibing with the idea of getting married right away and wanting to get to know the tsundere little sister better before tying the knot could help Luliam because she can just go "See? My sister is only doing it for duty and they don't have any spark between them but if you let me eat the fruit first I'll get the saintess pregnant TOMORROW! Trust me! I AM THIRSTY!!!". And that's how she'll win (real).

 

[WhimsiCat]

So Daichi not really vibing with the idea of getting married right away and wanting to get to know the tsundere little sister better before tying the knot

Honestly there's very real chance of those two arguing into accidental confession (and gex)
One is too tsundere/cat to confess normally, the other is trying too much to be 'regal' to admit to such feeling.

The 2 ways they start recognizing their own feelings is either in private contemplation (Daichi when she recall the princess's panic) or after something serious happen to make them throw away that pride (the princess when Daichi was hurt)
So that starting step is already there.

Now the princess is trying to push their marriage.
I expect the two to get into argument over this and either:
1. Daichi ask some upfront question, got hurt by the 'cold' answer and run off crying. Princess then decide to follow her and admit to her feelings/clear up misunderstandings.
2. Same thing, but the princess also got heated up and confess in the moment.

 

[XenoAshura]

proudy princess just can't read the room...

 

[wlftchtr82]

Honestly there's very real chance of those two arguing into accidental confession (and gex)
One is too tsundere/cat to confess normally, the other is trying too much to be 'regal' to admit to such feeling.

The 2 ways they start recognizing their own feelings is either in private contemplation (Daichi when she recall the princess's panic) or after something serious happen to make them throw away that pride (the princess when Daichi was hurt)
So that starting step is already there.

Now the princess is trying to push their marriage.
I expect the two to get into argument over this and either:
1. Daichi ask some upfront question, got hurt by the 'cold' answer and run off crying. Princess then decide to follow her and admit to her feelings/clear up misunderstandings.
2. Same thing, but the princess also got heated up and confess in the moment.

Cute scenario and I really wanna see it but I’d love if it happened after the main couple overtook the marriage thing first. The two tsundere-ing their way into becoming a real couple after the first marriage attempt fails “not like I like I wanted to marry you anyways” and then boom discussion because this hurt someone’s feelings. Specially if it’s the princess getting hurt and Daichi confronting the shit out of her asking “WHY ARE YOU SO MAD” until they both confess during a heated argument. And then kiss.

But fr Luliam needs to get married first or she’ll explode. She’s STARVING!

Plus I don’t want the second couple to have an “forced married couple falls in love because why not” plot, I want them to say they >want< to get married and not because they gotta call dibs on the fruits to get the throne. And honestly given we don’t see much of them I really don’t want all this development to happen in a month (ceremony preparations) aka one or three chapters for us.

 

[Nuwanda1313]

Nana and Tsubasa will knock Eldora and Luliam.

 

[Roodypatooti]

Tsubasa hasn't gotten much screen time but she's so cute

 

[shittycoolusername69]

Tsubasa hasn't gotten much screen time but she's so cute

She seems a lot more upbeat than she was the last time she appeared, like a weight has been lifted off her shoulder

 

[Zedter]

Ok hear me out when women kisses each other one of them will pregnant so that mean one of our MC was already pregnant but she didn't know yet

 

[bluebutterfly15]

After rereading the first chapter and comparing it to what I’ve seen in this one, I have two additional thoughts.

First, regarding our saints’ last thoughts before being summoned. Tsubasa claims she only wished to be in a better world than the one she was stuck in. Perfectly valid for someone who grew up in an orphanage, she had plenty of good relationships, but probably didn’t have much when it came to personal possessions or future prospects.

Meanwhile, Nana was specifically thinking about how she’d have to be in another world to get married. And wouldn’t you know it, she was summoned for a role where one of the expectations is marrying a princess. I do wonder if that will come up again in this arc. I don’t think there’s much more there, I just think it’s neat for those two had their own desires for being isekaied.

The other thing that I‘m seeing brought up in these comments is the contrast to our first impressions of Tsubasa and how we see her in this chapter.

She showed a lot of attitude but she had a right to. The thing that seems to bother her most about the whole situation is having her agency taken away. Sure, she wished to travel to another world in that moment, but she had her reasons to stay, too. And yet, she was summoned against her will, had all these expectations thrust upon, and told she couldn’t be sent back until someone fulfilled them.

She also got annoyed on Nana‘s behalf when Eldora immediately turned on her when Nana couldn’t perform to expectations in that very moment. She also clearly favoured Luliam for being “nicer”, but had yet another choice taken from her. I’m sure she thinks about that moment and worries how Eldora will treat her if and when she stops meeting those expectations, or if Nana proves herself the better saint. Now Eldora is forcing this marriage on her.

Laying it all out like this, I can see it being very hard for Tsubasa to put her trust in Eldora. Seeing how consistent she has been on not liking her agency being taken away, I can see her being openly opposed to this sudden marriage.

Speaking of expectations, it’s a common theme particularly for noble and royal characters. On one hand, we have Luliam, who fails to meet those expectations because of circumstances that are out of her control. Now, this is just conjecture at this point, but I’m wondering if Eldora is the other type, the kind that feels she is not allowed to deviate from her expectations and responsibilities, even if she did want to. With her sister being regarded as the “failure”, there’s probably that much pressure on Eldora to conform.

So if I’m right, you can kind of get a sense of what the upcoming conflicts will be in this arc. You have a girl who feels the need to maintain her autonomy, and a princess who thinks they need to live up to the responsibilities of their respective positions regardless of their personal feelings.

 

[dumbziri]

She seems a lot more upbeat than she was the last time she appeared, like a weight has been lifted off her shoulder

IIRC she's a little more feisty in the early chapters because she's sticking up for Nana, so I guess she's chilling out now that Nana is in her popular phase.

 

[Vulkuvier]

I do hope this is not the final arc set up.. Usually Yuri mangas end at 25-30 chapters. The fact that we are already heading into the marriage arc, is a bit concerning.. We only had one proper arc, where our duo went out.. this arc will involve the exploration of the Eldora, saving the other Saint from marrying for political reasons, and the main duo getting the fruit. The next arc could be the final but I really hope it’s not and we get a lengthy adaptation of the series!! It’s a good series!

i think its unlike it will be hitting an axe from what ive seen its seems to be very popular in japan and doing well in sales

 

[Doutorfunga]

Wait, yeah... how do they even have kids there

I'm guessing it's the fruit that is grown once every five years and apparently yields only one portion

 

[RozemynePower]

Nana will be the one carrying the baby that's for sure.

 

[toapat]

Ok, i have to shit on the discussion parade here for a very specific reason: the only characters wearing gloves are The Knights. This means handholding is not, in fact, the mechanism of making tiny Santamagians.

I went over this several chapters ago, and through process of elimination for the character designs determined that the most probable mechanism for these humans to reproduce is like WH40k Kroot: Backrubs.

And ya, I agree the fruit probably makes it possible for Familiaris saints to reproduce with Santamagians.