Isekai Saikyou no Yome desu ga, Yoru no Tatakai wa Ore no Hou ga Tsuyoi You desu: Chiryaku o Ikashite Nariagaru Harem Senki - Vol. 4 Ch. 18

[Rowdy91]

Dick move, Demon King.
Time to be overthrown!

 

[Reina4444]

i mean its not like he's actually for being with his daughter like that. its a thing that dads imagine their kid doing cause the dad doesnt want their kid to leave the nest.

as for the killing thing, you'd be right about it if it was real life but in fictional worlds like manga the dad doesnt end up actually killing the groom and it's just a overly protective father thing thats been a thing for decades. Hades even the Yanks do it with the whole bit where the dad threatens the BF with a shotgun and tells them he'll kill him if he dont treat his daughter right.

all in all, imma disagree about it being toxic as its typically played for laughs and not to be taken seriously.

a death threat with weapons is a literal crime.
charges for that are menacing up to assault with a deadly weapon.
it would also justify the use of self-defense against the perpetrator.

 

[Shad24772]

thats a bit beside the point. i was criticizing the approach of having a daughter with romantic interests was making said daughter suffer, murdering innocent people and engaging in delusions of incest.
all the while his wife and himself are the opposite of chastity.
thats a double standard, hypocrisy, abuse of power, whatever the correct term was.
hes plotting to commit crimes against his children...

it's not delusions of incest. all young female kids grow up saying they want to marry their father. Granted, IF, said father is loving, caring and provides for the family. Hence why i said you ain't the father of a girl. Both my sisters were saying they want to marry dad when they grow up. But they were between 3-6 years old when they said it.

 

[Reina4444]

it's not delusions of incest. all young female kids grow up saying they want to marry their father. Granted, IF, said father is loving, caring and provides for the family. Hence why i said you ain't the father of a girl. Both my sisters were saying they want to marry dad when they grow up. But they were between 3-6 years old when they said it.

be careful not to repeat that line "all young female kids want to marry their father" in public. you clearly have had different experiences, but dont assume them to be universal. all other women i ever knew for example would take that as an insult to start some serious hostilities, functional family background or not.

 

[CrimsonNanashi]

a death threat with weapons is a literal crime.
charges for that are menacing up to assault with a deadly weapon.
it would also justify the use of self-defense against the perpetrator.

What part of it being a thing that happens in fiction did you not get?

 

[inkindoug]

be careful not to repeat that line "all young female kids want to marry their father" in public. you clearly have had different experiences, but dont assume them to be universal. all other women i ever knew for example would take that as an insult to start some serious hostilities, functional family background or not.

They're not wrong though, perhaps the wording could have been slightly different however. I think it's more common that you realise.
When daughters are growing up, they don't understand exactly what is involved in "getting married", all they see is a man and woman who love each other being together. With that in mind, and with their father (hopefully) being a loving care-giver, they associate their father with being the one who they want to marry.
Not everything between a male and female is as inherently sexual as you're making out.

 

[Shad24772]

be careful not to repeat that line "all young female kids want to marry their father" in public. you clearly have had different experiences, but dont assume them to be universal. all other women i ever knew for example would take that as an insult to start some serious hostilities, functional family background or not.

thanks for showing you didn't read my comment, or you're trolling, or are a complete dummy... i will quote it one last time, and i won't bother with you, since, AGAIN, i'm smelling trolling or complete idiocy from you:

"Granted, IF, said father is loving, caring and provides for the family".

Also, what @inkindoug commented:

"When daughters are growing up, they don't understand exactly what is involved in "getting married", all they see is a man and woman who love each other being together. With that in mind, and with their father (hopefully) being a loving care-giver, they associate their father with being the one who they want to marry."

 

[Reina4444]

thanks for showing you didn't read my comment, or you're trolling, or are a complete dummy... i will quote it one last time, and i won't bother with you, since, AGAIN, i'm smelling trolling or complete idiocy from you:

"Granted, IF, said father is loving, caring and provides for the family".

Also, what @inkindoug commented:

"When daughters are growing up, they don't understand exactly what is involved in "getting married", all they see is a man and woman who love each other being together. With that in mind, and with their father (hopefully) being a loving care-giver, they associate their father with being the one who they want to marry."

i did read your comment "functional family background or not" literally implies your "IF, said father is loving, caring and provides for the family".
both possibilities are included in that phrasing.

 

[dementati]

you're clearly not a girl Father. "all boys are monkeys""all they think about is sex" etc.etc.

I'm the father of a girl and I completely agree with them. I have no plans on making my daughter unhappy by depriving her of the chance at a happy love life. I know it's supposed to be a joke, but it still makes the MC more unlikeable to me.

 

[dementati]

Also, you don't have to stop having sex during pregnancy. It's perfectly safe.

 

[Akudia94]

I'm the father of a girl and I completely agree with them. I have no plans on making my daughter unhappy by depriving her of the chance at a happy love life. I know it's supposed to be a joke, but it still makes the MC more unlikeable to me.

on the other hand,.if husband candidate manage to survive, the he is smart and strong enough to protect his daughter.

the joke here is dad doesn't believe any man that get close to their daughter unless they prove themselves are worthy enough.

that's why its a threat, not shoot on sight. man need to know what he walking into before getting the girls. he needs to fight for it. how can you believe someone gonna take care your daughter if he backed up just on mere threat? man that were monkey and wanted only sex wouldn't fight for you. talking love is cheap, proves it with action.

daughters are princess in father eyes, sons are hero in mother eyes. Father wanted daughter to keep happy in his castle, mother wanted sons to become great hero in his life. but no matter what, to caring and loving parents, you will always be boy and girl in their eyes, no matter how old are you.

 

[dementati]

on the other hand,.if husband candidate manage to survive, the he is smart and strong enough to protect his daughter.

the joke here is dad doesn't believe any man that get close to their daughter unless they prove themselves are worthy enough.

that's why its a threat, not shoot on sight. man need to know what he walking into before getting the girls. he needs to fight for it. how can you believe someone gonna take care your daughter if he backed up just on mere threat? man that were monkey and wanted only sex wouldn't fight for you. talking love is cheap, proves it with action.

daughters are princess in father eyes, sons are hero in mother eyes. Father wanted daughter to keep happy in his castle, mother wanted sons to become great hero in his life. but no matter what, to caring and loving parents, you will always be boy and girl in their eyes, no matter how old are you.

I don't want my daughter to be happy stuck in a castle, I want her to be strong and smart enough to take care of herself, and be able to make good decisions about who to date without me having to vet them first. Secondly, martial prowess is not a good indicator of who makes for a good partner. I'd rather have a weak son- or daughter-in-law who makes my daughter happy than a strong one who is abusive.

 

[Akudia94]

I don't want my daughter to be happy stuck in a castle, I want her to be strong and smart enough to take care of herself, and be able to make good decisions about who to date without me having to vet them first. Secondly, martial prowess is not a good indicator of who makes for a good partner. I'd rather have a weak son- or daughter-in-law who makes my daughter happy than a strong one who is abusive.

how he gonna make her happy if robber got into their house and he leaves her alone because he weak? asshole come and harass your daughter and he did nothing because he have no power. money, strength, connection and skill is power. woman can be weak but man don't. bet your daughter get grape and he couldn't do anything to stop because he too weak. to poor to afford security, no connection with powerful people that can help you or having any set of skill to protect her.

woman, children and pet were love unconditionally but men were love for what he can provide. stop being naive. he might be abusive but when some tried to SA her, can he stop them if he too weak, to afraid to fight back and make his stand? woman and men muscle were different, and men genetically will always be stronger than woman. That's the facts. so stop with idealistic as long there is love, its good.

and why you always assume strong men being abusive? there are weak man but abusive using mind and psychology, gaslighting woman, and take advantage of them. lots of playboy not even strong, rich and dependable but still, they manage to take advantage over a woman body. when they get pregnant, suddenly those men disappear.

find a man that strong enough to be gentle, but firm in defending his family. weak man is good indicator that cannot be made as husband.

 

[dementati]

how he gonna make her happy if robber got into their house and he leaves her alone because he weak? asshole come and harass your daughter and he did nothing because he have no power.

Rather than rely on my daughter's partner personally being responsible for her physical safety, I'd just encourage her to live in an area where crime rate is low and police are fast and reliable.

money, strength, connection and skill is power. woman can be weak but man don't. bet your daughter get grape and he couldn't do anything to stop because he too weak. to poor to afford security, no connection with powerful people that can help you or having any set of skill to protect her.

Being financially stable is pretty important, because someone who's financially stable is more likely to have their shit together in other respects. It has little to do with personal safety unless you live somewhere very unsafe.

woman, children and pet were love unconditionally but men were love for what he can provide. stop being naive. he might be abusive but when some tried to SA her, can he stop them if he too weak, to afraid to fight back and make his stand? woman and men muscle were different, and men genetically will always be stronger than woman. That's the facts. so stop with idealistic as long there is love, its good.

Yeah, in stone age hunter-gatherer societies. Things are a bit different nowadays.

and why you always assume strong men being abusive? there are weak man but abusive using mind and psychology, gaslighting woman, and take advantage of them. lots of playboy not even strong, rich and dependable but still, they manage to take advantage over a woman body. when they get pregnant, suddenly those men disappear.

I'm not saying strong men are necessarily abusive, I'm saying the point is whether they treat my daughter well or not, not how physically strong they are.

find a man that strong enough to be gentle, but firm in defending his family. weak man is good indicator that cannot be made as husband.

No, physical strength has no meaning at all in determining the long-term success of a relationship.

 

[Akudia94]

Rather than rely on my daughter's partner personally being responsible for her physical safety, I'd just encourage her to live in an area where crime rate is low and police are fast and reliable.

Being financially stable is pretty important, because someone who's financially stable is more likely to have their shit together in other respects. It has little to do with personal safety unless you live somewhere very unsafe.

Yeah, in stone age hunter-gatherer societies. Things are a bit different nowadays.

I'm not saying strong men are necessarily abusive, I'm saying the point is whether they treat my daughter well or not, not how physically strong they are.

No, physical strength has no meaning at all in determining the long-term success of a relationship.

area low crime rate doesn't meant there is no crimes. today is hard time to find low crime rate area. even japan that have low crime rate have lots SA cases. maybe if they live in Dubai or Qatar where crime rate is low and safe. but not everyone can afford to live there isn't? even there, there still unhinged people that grape and kill others.

you can call the police but during time that police taken to arrive, what will your son-in-law doing? just like when you call ambulance, there things you can do to help before they arrive. no point if police arrived but your daughter already get graped. police not besides your daughter 24/7. people get robbed still even they call the police, the money sometimes still lost. you daughter could be beaten and grape before police come to catch the criminal but, she already being hurt because the man was too weak to do anything.

physical strength were needed to fix the house, lifting furniture, helping your daughter carrying their children, groceries etc. whatever ages, men need strength. maintaining house need strength. what point of being born with stronger muscles and bone structure if you can't even help your wife in task that requires strength? are he gonna ask your daughter to move refrigerator, cabinet etc in the house or what? or what, asking your grandchildren do it instead because the dad is too weak to do it? strength have meaning in long-term relationship, just like money, responsibilities and respect. its part that make husband the head of the house. you would be live in delulu world if you saying strength is not needed. you need strength to protect the family and that a facts. how you gonna teach your daughter to be strong if you, yourself were weak? parent teach by leading the example to their children. how your daughter going to be responsible to her physical safety when you can't even protect yourself because you too weak husband? to run away, escape from being grabbed need skill and strength too. she atleast need such skill to keep her safety but how you gonna teach that? she gonna said, "shut up dad,.you are weak too,. don't asking your daughter to do something that you can't even do it" something like that. well, teenager loves to rebel anyway.

thus proves that you as a father and husband need strength to show how dangerous and what needed to keep safety.

oh, btw,you want to encourage her to stay at low crime rate areas right? isn't that same of being locked in the castle and its garden? your daughter needs to travel somewhere too, and that place cannot be same safety as her house area,.so what you gonna do? tell her don't travel? so you indirectly cage her in "castle" too anyway.

if you want her to be free, then you should know world is not a safe place. even men get robbed and killed, so children and women are easier target. so it make sense to have someone to guard them 24/7,.aka the husband to keep them safe while being free to going anywhere.
tell me, if you daughter want to travel and visit India alone, would let her? stopping her would be same ask locking her freedom, but would you feel safe to let her go to India alone as a young woman?lets be honest, you wouldn't.

 

[dementati]

area low crime rate doesn't meant there is no crimes. today is hard time to find low crime rate area. even japan that have low crime rate have lots SA cases. maybe if they live in Dubai or Qatar where crime rate is low and safe. but not everyone can afford to live there isn't? even there, there still unhinged people that grape and kill others.

Just because certain crimes are blown up in the media doesn't mean you're likely to suffer from that crime yourself. That's what "low crime rate" means.

you can call the police but during time that police taken to arrive, what will your son-in-law doing? just like when you call ambulance, there things you can do to help before they arrive. no point if police arrived but your daughter already get graped. police not besides your daughter 24/7. people get robbed still even they call the police, the money sometimes still lost. you daughter could be beaten and grape before police come to catch the criminal but, she already being hurt because the man was too weak to do anything.

That's why you want to live in a low crime area.

physical strength were needed to fix the house, lifting furniture, helping your daughter carrying their children, groceries etc. whatever ages, men need strength. maintaining house need strength. what point of being born with stronger muscles and bone structure if you can't even help your wife in task that requires strength? are he gonna ask your daughter to move refrigerator, cabinet etc in the house or what? or what, asking your grandchildren do it instead because the dad is too weak to do it? strength have meaning in long-term relationship, just like money, responsibilities and respect. its part that make husband the head of the house. you would be live in delulu world if you saying strength is not needed. you need strength to protect the family and that a facts. how you gonna teach your daughter to be strong if you, yourself were weak? parent teach by leading the example to their children. how your daughter going to be responsible to her physical safety when you can't even protect yourself because you too weak husband? to run away, escape from being grabbed need skill and strength too. she atleast need such skill to keep her safety but how you gonna teach that? she gonna said, "shut up dad,.you are weak too,. don't asking your daughter to do something that you can't even do it" something like that. well, teenager loves to rebel anyway.

You can pay people to move the refrigerator. You don't need to be a bodybuilder to move most furniture. Children's trust in parents is formed from having a close bond and being emotionally available to them when they need it, not by flexing in front of them. I'm not saying you should be a couch potato, but a normal level of health and fitness is more than sufficient.

oh, btw,you want to encourage her to stay at low crime rate areas right? isn't that same of being locked in the castle and its garden? your daughter needs to travel somewhere too, and that place cannot be same safety as her house area,.so what you gonna do? tell her don't travel? so you indirectly cage her in "castle" too anyway.

I mainly meant to live in an area with low crime rate. You can go on vacation, but you can take simple measures to ensure your safety, like go in a group, not go to high-risk areas, favor places where you know some locals, etc. If you get mugged in a foreign country, physical strength probably won't matter. You're probably actually more likely to get hurt since you overestimate your own abilities.

if you want her to be free, then you should know world is not a safe place. even men get robbed and killed, so children and women are easier target. so it make sense to have someone to guard them 24/7,.aka the husband to keep them safe while being free to going anywhere.
tell me, if you daughter want to travel and visit India alone, would let her? stopping her would be same ask locking her freedom, but would you feel safe to let her go to India alone as a young woman?lets be honest, you wouldn't.

Sounds paranoid and sad to guard your adult child 24/7. Going to India alone is stupid. I'd like to raise my daughter to know better than to do that, so I don't need to stop her.

 

[Akudia94]

I mainly meant to live in an area with low crime rate. You can go on vacation, but you can take simple measures to ensure your safety, like go in a group, not go to high-risk areas, favor places where you know some locals, etc. If you get mugged in a foreign country, physical strength probably won't matter. You're probably actually more likely to get hurt since you overestimate your own abilities.

you going family vacation with a group? that you choice but what if it only your family.

if you get mugged, physical strength ofc matter you idiot. what did you meant doesn't matter? foreigner is saiyan or what that your training doesn't matter when you going there? you get hurt because you lack of training and overestimated yourself, not just overestimated. you just prove my point, weak but act strong get beaten up. true strong able to protect. you acting like all local foreigner were master in MMA or something that saying physical strength doesn't matter. lol.

unless you get mugged with gang with guns, that different story, but with bare hand, with sufficient training you can get around. if you get hurt, then you are weak and not enough training, like your future son-in law. even you get hurt, at least you able to create opening that your family can run away and get a help. if you too weak to hold them back, you and your family will suffer too. i rather alone hurting as long my wife and children is safe.

men need to get strong so they didn't get to be bullied and can't fight back.

guns is leveling the playing field but not every country allowed to carry firearms for defense.

saying man didn't need strength is like man didn't need dick. yes you can get married and love each other even without dick and strength, but something is lacking in that marriage.

why don't you said your son-in-laws didn't needs dick? today we have lots of realistic sex toys to satisfied woman. you can get pregnant using sperm bank, IVF or you just can adopt a children did we? come on, say it that man didn't need his dick to stay healthy in long term relationship. lesbian able to get around that did they?

so just say it, men today didn't need dick as he didn't need strength. you can have your daughter have open relationship, money and house provided by your son-in-law, dick provided by other men. as long the marriage happy it not a problem isn't? i meant if you can pay other man to move something that you too weak to do it, you can pay other man to satisfy your wife if you don't have dick right. as long she happy, you happy being cuck its not a problem.

 

[dementati]

you going family vacation with a group? that you choice but what if it only your family.

A family is a group of people.

if you get mugged, physical strength ofc matter you idiot. what did you meant doesn't matter? foreigner is saiyan or what that your training doesn't matter when you going there? you get hurt because you lack of training and overestimated yourself, not just overestimated. you just prove my point, weak but act strong get beaten up. true strong able to protect. you acting like all local foreigner were master in MMA or something that saying physical strength doesn't matter. lol.

No, it doesn't matter, because fighting back against a mugger is a bad strategy. You should drop your valuables and run. People who think they can rely on their strength to fight off muggers end up dead half the time. That's stupid.

unless you get mugged with gang with guns, that different story, but with bare hand, with sufficient training you can get around. if you get hurt, then you are weak and not enough training, like your future son-in law. even you get hurt, at least you able to create opening that your family can run away and get a help. if you too weak to hold them back, you and your family will suffer too. i rather alone hurting as long my wife and children is safe.

And everyone being safe is better yet. Dead husbands are useless.

why don't you said your son-in-laws didn't needs dick? today we have lots of realistic sex toys to satisfied woman. you can get pregnant using sperm bank, IVF or you just can adopt a children did we? come on, say it that man didn't need his dick to stay healthy in long term relationship. lesbian able to get around that did they?

so just say it, men today didn't need dick as he didn't need strength. you can have your daughter have open relationship, money and house provided by your son-in-law, dick provided by other men. as long the marriage happy it not a problem isn't? i meant if you can pay other man to move something that you too weak to do it, you can pay other man to satisfy your wife if you don't have dick right. as long she happy, you happy being cuck its not a problem.

You came up with that analogy, not me, and it makes no sense. Physical strength and sexual performance are unrelated.

 

[Akudia94]

A family is a group of people.

No, it doesn't matter, because fighting back against a mugger is a bad strategy. You should drop your valuables and run. People who think they can rely on their strength to fight off muggers end up dead half the time. That's stupid.

And everyone being safe is better yet. Dead husbands are useless.

You came up with that analogy, not me, and it makes no sense. Physical strength and sexual performance are unrelated.

sexual performance and happiness are unrelated. you needs stamina and strength to get different positions in sex though.

you said as long you daughter is happy its good for you. if you daughter want a cuck husband and that make her happy so its not a problem right? just like you said strength is not need for long term relationship because it we no longer hunter and gatherer, so do dick as we no longer have sex just to reproduce. so if you daughter fetish is to have open marriage and cuckold husband, you will permit her right? as long she happy, her husband happy, you will be happy.

if everyone being safe is better than everyone get killed. what if they mugged and want to have sex with your daughter? supposed the husband should said " have a nice sex, just don't kill us? better graped children and wife than dead husband right. no problem if you daughter get railed by 10 men, as long husband is live right.

you just assumed someone only want the money. what if they want the money and grape the wife? what you gonna do then, let them be right. because you too weak and to scare to put your life for your family.

dead husband is better than gangbang wife and daughter. unless you like you wife and daughter traumatized for life.

 

[dementati]

sexual performance and happiness are unrelated. you needs stamina and strength to get different positions in sex though.

Normal fitness is more than sufficient.

you said as long you daughter is happy its good for you. if you daughter want a cuck husband and that make her happy so its not a problem right? just like you said strength is not need for long term relationship because it we no longer hunter and gatherer, so do dick as we no longer have sex just to reproduce. so if you daughter fetish is to have open marriage and cuckold husband, you will permit her right? as long she happy, her husband happy, you will be happy.

She's free to have whatever kind of relationship she wants. It's none of my business what she and her partner do in the bedroom.

if everyone being safe is better than everyone get killed. what if they mugged and want to have sex with your daughter? supposed the husband should said " have a nice sex, just don't kill us? better graped children and wife than dead husband right. no problem if you daughter get railed by 10 men, as long husband is live right.
you just assumed someone only want the money. what if they want the money and grape the wife? what you gonna do then, let them be right. because you too weak and to scare to put your life for your family.

dead husband is better than gangbang wife and daughter. unless you like you wife and daughter traumatized for life.

No, it's better to just plan for making sure everyone is unharmed than to plan for some extremely unlikely scenario where you have to make a choice like that.