Tensei Shite High Elf ni Narimashitaga, Slow Life wa 120-nen de Akimashita - Highelf with a Long Life - Ch. 42

[TNT261]

I just love the idea of an immortal, basically everyone's dad, having a close relationship with a family throughout the ages after forming a connection with its early matriarch. It's wonderful. Aesir will always be "like a dad" to so many generations and hopefully that staves off the sting of those that have passed away.

 

[megaguil]

Man, again, this one is always so well done. Not much to say about this chapter other than it’s another solid addition to the story. Aiha might actually end up adventuring with him for a bit when she’s older, which would be quite fun.

Thanks for the translation!

 

[Xavixdjor]

Aesir planting seeds of wisdom just to see competition and cool stuff in the future. This man just want to see the world burn (in a good way?)

 

[KiraEllion]

Not the best sword, but among the better ones. I prefer a smallsword, as I am a fencer. However, considering how the katana closely resembles the willow leaf saber, it is, in my opinion, the best sword because you can directly transfer saber techniques to a katana and kenjutsu techniques to the saber. You are probably thinking of the katana from an aesthetic point of view, but some of us see it from a martial artist's perspective.

There are those who talk about combat and armor durability down below-but these people, from my experience, are mostly HEMA enthusiasts, not true practitioners. They can discuss how a blade is made and what materials are used, but their tactical wheel often consists of fewer than two movesets. You will see these individuals relying on one-trick pony attacks in most of their bouts. From this standpoint, I don't see these kinds of people creditable to talk about "fencing" when they can't fence. They know who they are, they know what I'm talking about, and most likely they will give a counterargument to me saying otherwise but I won't care lol

All weapons are made differently, and some techniques are better executed with specific weapons. The shaska, for example, is excellent for flowing cuts and slices. No other weapon offers this particular fighting style. The same applies to the smallsword, katana, liuyedao, and so forth. This is not exaggeration; it is simply a fact: the katana is that effective at what it does.

it's really not. the Katana is for cutting down peasants simple as even the simple Wakizashi is better then a full length Katana and anyone who knows swords knows this

Disguising your bias with verbosity and also assuming everyone who disagrees is wrong and "HEMA Enthusiasts not true practitioners" Nice gatekeeping there

The fact that your fencing with anything other then a standardized rapier implies your a casual fencer not on any professional level not much better then an enthusiast yourself

Stick to Fencing you clearly know nothing about weaponry

 

[Salamande]

One of these days, when she’s older, it’ll strike Aiha how incredibly lucky she was to be personally trained in adventuring by a goddamn high elf, and it’s gonna knock her on her ass.

 

[Ultimatecalibur]

Not the best sword, but among the better ones. I prefer a smallsword, as I am a fencer. However, considering how the katana closely resembles the willow leaf saber, it is, in my opinion, the best sword because you can directly transfer saber techniques to a katana and kenjutsu techniques to the saber. You are probably thinking of the katana from an aesthetic point of view, but some of us see it from a martial artist's perspective.

There are those who talk about combat and armor durability down below-but these people, from my experience, are mostly HEMA enthusiasts, not true practitioners. They can discuss how a blade is made and what materials are used, but their tactical wheel often consists of fewer than two movesets. You will see these individuals relying on one-trick pony attacks in most of their bouts. From this standpoint, I don't see these kinds of people creditable to talk about "fencing" when they can't fence. They know who they are, they know what I'm talking about, and most likely they will give a counterargument to me saying otherwise but I won't care lol

Disguising your bias with verbosity and also assuming everyone who disagrees is wrong and "HEMA Enthusiasts not true practitioners" Nice gatekeeping there

I'd argue that both of you idiots are biased in different ways and not really pertinent to discussing this chapter.

The Katana and Wakizashi are mostly technologically impressive as the techniques used to make them were developed to compensate for the lower quality and limited amounts of iron and steel available in the Japanese Archipelago. Ironsand has a rather poor pig-iron/steel yield compared to Iron Ore and techniques such as San Mai allow for the creation of weapons of similar effectiveness to those create by continental cultures using mono-steel techniques. Ironically a quirk of the cooling process causes the back of the swords to cool faster than their edges causing a slight curve in the blade.

As a result, martial arts techniques were developed to maximize the effectiveness of the weapons available. Pretty much all Katana and Wakizashi techniques are easily transferable and applicable for use with other curved single edged cutting swords of similar size including (but not limited to) Middle Eastern Scimitars, Chinese Dao, and European Cavalry Sabres.

 

[Hexdyz23]

It's interesting how he sees the world, like, a "change" on the manufactiring of a sword and polishing of the techniques would take decades, but he's like "It will be awesome when I see the perfected way to make Katanas"

 

[Sandmann1st]

Aesir continuing to teach the younger generation in the dojo

 

[DIMOHA25]

I'd argue that both of you idiots are biased in different ways and not really pertinent to discussing this chapter.

The Katana and Wakizashi are mostly technologically impressive as the techniques used to make them were developed to compensate for the lower quality and limited amounts of iron and steel available in the Japanese Archipelago. Ironsand has a rather poor pig-iron/steel yield compared to Iron Ore and techniques such as San Mai allow for the creation of weapons of similar effectiveness to those create by continental cultures using mono-steel techniques. Ironically a quirk of the cooling process causes the back of the swords to cool faster than their edges causing a slight curve in the blade.

As a result, martial arts techniques were developed to maximize the effectiveness of the weapons available. Pretty much all Katana and Wakizashi techniques are easily transferable and applicable for use with other curved single edged cutting swords of similar size including (but not limited to) Middle Eastern Scimitars, Chinese Dao, and European Cavalry Sabres.

All this pointless arguing, when a peasant with a spear outperforms any of the swords mentioned smh

 

[KiraEllion]

All this pointless arguing, when a peasant with a spear outperforms any of the swords mentioned smh

no a peasant TRAINED with a spear can MAYBE deal with an infantry charge maybe some horses.

I'd argue that both of you idiots are biased in different ways and not really pertinent to discussing this chapter.

The Katana and Wakizashi are mostly technologically impressive as the techniques used to make them were developed to compensate for the lower quality and limited amounts of iron and steel available in the Japanese Archipelago. Ironsand has a rather poor pig-iron/steel yield compared to Iron Ore and techniques such as San Mai allow for the creation of weapons of similar effectiveness to those create by continental cultures using mono-steel techniques. Ironically a quirk of the cooling process causes the back of the swords to cool faster than their edges causing a slight curve in the blade.

As a result, martial arts techniques were developed to maximize the effectiveness of the weapons available. Pretty much all Katana and Wakizashi techniques are easily transferable and applicable for use with other curved single edged cutting swords of similar size including (but not limited to) Middle Eastern Scimitars, Chinese Dao, and European Cavalry Sabres.

Ok so.
If your mad at us for going on a tangent what is your comment then?
Your just repeating what a bunch of other people said regurgitating it like your providing new information.
No one disagreed with any of that part anyway why are you even saying this.

Also both of you idiots keep saying "easily transferable" this is stupid and if you don't know why your just as big a fraud as mr fencer.

just because a sword has one edge and is curved does not allow for "transferable skills" the weights are different the sizes hell even the thickness would be enough.

Similar techniques can be learned and applied this takes effort practice and research the "easily" part you keep thoughtlessly repeating is because other people already did the work for you and even then switching from say a saber to scimitar is not something you can do in one night which i would say disqualifies easily quite handily.

 

[Kaarme]

The dwarves will obviously make a better katana, eventually. Their whole culture is about metalwork. It might not end up the kind of katana Aesier would prefer, as they aren't bound by his very personal nostalgia, so they wouldn't care about any cultural heritage associated with the weapon type. It would be pretty weird if the dwarves didn't already know about rather advanced steel alloys the rest of the peoples wouldn't have any idea about. Traditionally, advanced alloys didn't obviously exist in katanas, but the dwarves would have no reason to mind such details.

 

[Kumamiko]

Seeing the picture of his first adventurer friends was both nostalgic and a little sad.

 

[Ultimatecalibur]

Also both of you idiots keep saying "easily transferable" this is stupid and if you don't know why your just as big a fraud as mr fencer.

They are easily transferable because the forms, positions and movements are mostly the same due to the nature of the human body. If you were familiar with both Japanese Kenjutsu stances and European Longsword Guards you would immediately see that many parallel each other. An Italian swordmaster would say that a Samurai in Jodan no Kamae was using the Posta di Falcone while Samurai would describe the Pflug Guard as a variation of Chudan no Kamae.

just because a sword has one edge and is curved does not allow for "transferable skills" the weights are different the sizes hell even the thickness would be enough.

Those are issues a skilled martial artist needs to be able to handle even when using weapons of the same type. Katanas, just like all non-mass produced weapons, vary in length, balance, weight and even curvature and being able to adjust to those variables is a mark of skill.

This doesn't mean all techniques are transferable. For example, some techniques viable for use with a tsuba are unsuitable for use with a crossguard and visa versa.

 

[Carn109]

The moon is indeed beautiful

 

[KiraEllion]

They are easily transferable because the forms, positions and movements are mostly the same due to the nature of the human body. If you were familiar with both Japanese Kenjutsu stances and European Longsword Guards you would immediately see that many parallel each other. An Italian swordmaster would say that a Samurai in Jodan no Kamae was using the Posta di Falcone while Samurai would describe the Pflug Guard as a variation of Chudan no Kamae.

Those are issues a skilled martial artist needs to be able to handle even when using weapons of the same type. Katanas, just like all non-mass produced weapons, vary in length, balance, weight and even curvature and being able to adjust to those variables is a mark of skill.

This doesn't mean all techniques are transferable. For example, some techniques viable for use with a tsuba are unsuitable for use with a crossguard and visa versa.

yeah sure "mr skilled martial artist" and i'm sure bruce lee rose form the grave just to train you.

Your trying to make your argument one from authority (im a good martial artist and your not) just to give it more credibility but even if you were (doubt) your arguments amount to "you totally can if your a gamer god like i am" which yeah no ones buying it Chow Yun-Fake.

 

[DeepSeaDingo]

All this pointless arguing, when a peasant with a spear outperforms any of the swords mentioned smh

Truth, poke stick is king. Sword fanboys like to wrestle other dudes naked.

 

[PerfectDeath]

Superior Nihon, etc....
Same as the insistence that katanas need to be made of iron sand.
They needn't be, and in fact the very best historical katanas are partly made with iron from european ship's nails. Because the purity of the iron was much better than the japanese could create with iron sand, and the smiths then knew it, and used it if they could get their hands on them. Iron sand simply was the best iron ore you could find in Japan, so they worked with that..
Same as early european smelters worked with , literally, bog iron. Because that's what they could get their hands on.
In construction and technique they aren't much different from early to high medieval european swords, knives and other assorted StabbyStuff.
If anything european sword construction of those ages was far more developed and complicated than anything the japanese have ever done. Helped along by the even faster development of european armours.

That said, the katana is one of the greatest types of blades within its niche: fast, unarmoured duelling-style lethal combat.
The only european blades that are similar are the slighly curved rapiers of the late Elisabethan Age and slightly beyond and the polish infantry sabre of a later era.
All three have a very different fighting style, but you really don't want to bluster against anyone trained in either.
And having had a go at all three.... I really couldn't tell which one is "superior", all three have their pro's and con's, but all of them share the "one mistake, and you're Exit" trait.
Pick your poison...
The solid defense and sheer cutting power of the katana.
The cutty/stabby flow of the rapier.
The angry menopausal she-bear lawnmower of the polish sabre...

Oh... And it's extremely impressive to make a modern, recognised katana ( or a "replica" outside of Japan..) just out of iron sand.
Anyone who can is a Master Smith. Besides the aesthetics, it is incredibly difficult to get right.
This is not "Forged in Fire" shyte...

Yeah, the trade networks of Europe and the Middle East meant that smiths could get better iron than needing to refine bog/river iron. I've heard of some European weapons that used a similar soft/hard iron layering as the Katana but this only occured in a limited window of history before they moved on to higher quality steels.
When Imperial Japan was supplying its officers with Katanas they even imported Swedish iron (mixing it with some Japanese iron for patriotic reasons) and these Katanas had no soft/hard layers.
Either way, if a smith is going to whack all the impurities out of iron sand they will have one hell of a swing. xD

 

[Diagus]

Next Boss

 

[cryum]

The Katana and Wakizashi are mostly technologically impressive as the techniques used to make them were developed to compensate for the lower quality and limited amounts of iron and steel available in the Japanese Archipelago. Ironsand has a rather poor pig-iron/steel yield compared to Iron Ore and techniques such as San Mai allow for the creation of weapons of similar effectiveness to those create by continental cultures using mono-steel techniques. Ironically a quirk of the cooling process causes the back of the swords to cool faster than their edges causing a slight curve in the blade.

This is the point that's relevant to the dwarves. Learning how to use iron sand could really teach them a lot about refining steel quality and working with non-homogenous steel structures.

That's way more valuable than the katana itself, but you gotta show proper respect to the craft.

 

[AbyssalOne]

I love this manga! Thanks for the translation