S-Kyuu Boukensha ga Ayumu Michi: Tsuihou Sareta Shounen wa Shin no Nouryoku 'Buki Master' de Sekai Saikyou ni Itaru - Vol. 2 Ch. 7

[NotTako001]

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From the latest "confession" chapter. Pronouns are reversed because MTL can't tell

Author plan: let Sasha take all the hate, so no one will notice the plot is bad lol

 

[HawkGoggles]

Author plan: let Sasha take all the hate, so no one will notice the plot is bad lol

FUCKING THIS!!! This story is just bad, not just Sasha. MC sucks, Sasha sucks, plot sucks. Some people keep crying about her apologizing but she already tried and the MC said, "don't care." But Sasha is the problem right now, not the bad story.

 

[DaDingo]

Spoiler

-She only ever comes to understand that she really didn't need to kick him out when they open the clan house and start recruiting newbies. When she sees these guys getting trained, she thinks that was what she should have done with Hyce as well. But that's pretty much it. She was shitting on him during the day and was crying herself to sleep during the night because of what she did when they were still in the party but she never apologizes for that or talks about it too.
She also sort of realizes how useless she is without the entire party/clan wiping her ass when she and Hyce conquer a dungeon alone together. She is competently useless outside of fighting just like a classic shounen meathead battle manga protagonist unlike Hyce who is literally jack of all trades while being an S tier fighter even without his guns. He just needed training but she didn't give him the time or resources because she was a raging bitch at the time.

-She doesn't. Not in a way the Hyce from the begining of the story wanted. She more or less forced back in to his life by the author and he just gives up and forgives her after some gaslighting by the guild master since nobody around him are actually on his side expect Precia who is treated as the designated losing heroine from the start. I like her because she shits on Sasha at every chance she gets

-She learns about it when told directly to her face. As i said before, she is borderline retarded. She still can't say no to them directly and just tells them to wait till "she figures her feelings out". I think she says some sort of a "no" to Roland and she doesn't really consider lesbian saint seriously but that doesn't stop the bitch from acting obnoxious as hell which is something she doesn't correct or stop either.

So wait are we sure that Sasha isn't the Mc of this story of this wish fulfillment story or do we have another Rent a girlfriend situation here?

 

[Rafalga]

So wait are we sure that Sasha isn't the Mc of this story of this wish fulfillment story or do we have another Rent a girlfriend situation here?

She isn't but RaG is an apt analogy in terms of an author being in love with his own character making sure she faces no consequences in the meantime and literally EVERYONE hating her.

 

[ENCORAAAAAAAAA]

If only Sasha would say "Hey Hyce i'm really sorry it was really a shity thing to kick you out without trying to train you or put you aside from the front lines for a while so we could investigate your skill, or to disregard your feelings about what the promise we made meant to you, i was childish. forgive me".
And Hyce too listened to her without cutting her off for once...

Anyway we all know who is the best girl:
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This did happen in chapter 2.3

And Hyce pretty clearly explains why he finds Sasha’s reasoning as bullshit.

 

[Belkin]

1st para, he will back down even though later he gets forced by sasha, has his dungeon stolen by her, his plans messed up by her, and everyone still supports her, never acknowledging she did anything wrong, everything just goes right for her, and she also never understands she messed up
2nd para, from what i've read, no true heart to heart, when they talk mc silently forgives her, as till this point he had already started doing stuff for her without getting any recognition himself, and the bitch even then has the audacity to tell him, that her decision to banish him was right.


If i made any mistake which could get my hopes up to read the novel or this again, someone please correct me. This seems good but the only gripe I have with this is how much easy Sasha has everything and never faces any consequences for what she has done. Though this likely up till 250-300 chapters, and the WN is at 400+ so idk what happens then or if it gets better, spoilers appreciated.

man, i hope they scrap all that bs in the manga.

Spoiler

From chad to simp, what a fucking joke author

 

[Rafalga]

but she already tried and the MC said, "don't care."

She really didn't because she doesn't understand. She just knows he is mad but doesn't really see WHY he is mad. She still doesn't. Saying sorry but not really meaning it like some sort of sociopath is not a good look either. Mc just realized that and told her to (rightfully) fuck off.

 

[Vissions]

honestly?
I kinda dig his absolute refusal to even listen to her. Even if he's aware (which, seems he is) that she didn't purposefully send him off into the claws of a dragon, the fact that he's held that grudge and is steadfast in just ...not giving her the time of day is something you don't see often in even this subgenre of the revenge style stories - usually the MC caves or at least gets all flustered/stuttery around the person who kicked them out (especially when it's a girl, bonus if she was important like Sasha was), so having him just be a straight-up asshole to her and then to everyone else is enough of a change that I hope it stays that way for awhile.

I'm sure she'll be in mortal peril eventually and he'll have to decide if he's gonna save her life--and if he does, I hope he still just leaves with a "fuck you, later" and the gimmick persists all the way to the end of the story.

And I don't even hold a grudge against Sasha as a character; I just like that the ML's enough of a quasi-anti-hero that I don't want him to "soften" toward her and ruin this image he's got going on.

Spoiler

Sasha is the fl. This is not going to follow the revenge trope. In fact, in the wn for like 300+ chapters, she is pretty much living her best life without ever suffering any consequences for her actions... Until she gets usurped, and is expelled from her own clan. She will join MC, and be part of his plutonic harem (ha, she thought she could reunite with the mc to fulfill their dream together alone, MC was like nah, but you're welcome to tag along). MC is still all business currently, no time for romance when there is powerful beings to kill.

 

[NotTako001]

Spoiler

-She only ever comes to understand that she really didn't need to kick him out when they open the clan house and start recruiting newbies. When she sees these guys getting trained, she thinks that was what she should have done with Hyce as well. But that's pretty much it. She was shitting on him during the day and was crying herself to sleep during the night because of what she did when they were still in the party but she never apologizes for that or talks about it too.
She also sort of realizes how useless she is without the entire party/clan wiping her ass when she and Hyce conquer a dungeon alone together. She is competently useless outside of fighting just like a classic shounen meathead battle manga protagonist unlike Hyce who is literally jack of all trades while being an S tier fighter even without his guns. He just needed training but she didn't give him the time or resources because she was a raging bitch at the time.

-She doesn't. Not in a way the Hyce from the begining of the story wanted. She more or less forced back in to his life by the author and he just gives up and forgives her after some gaslighting by the guild master since nobody around him are actually on his side expect Precia who is treated as the designated losing heroine from the start. I like her because she shits on Sasha at every chance she gets

-She learns about it when told directly to her face. As i said before, she is borderline retarded. She still can't say no to them directly and just tells them to wait till "she figures her feelings out". I think she says some sort of a "no" to Roland and she doesn't really consider lesbian saint seriously but that doesn't stop the bitch from acting obnoxious as hell which is something she doesn't correct or stop either.

Spoiler

All this about Sasha but I also wonder have MC ever confront Roland about it, I mean mc legit say that Roland want him out cuz Roland like Sasha

 

[NotTako001]

expelled from her own clan

Spoiler

I don't know how or why it happen but I'm glad it happen ... if only MC didn't accept her afterward

 

[ENCORAAAAAAAAA]

Man this chapter hits different without all the piazolla simping 🫩

 

[Jojo-san]

Spoiler: Sasha and Hyce

Hyce reconcile with Sacred and Sasha but never forgave them, here the heart to heart from WN chapter 235 + the conclusion. I didn't post the full chapter.

"At this point, reconciliation is impossible. Moreover... I have come to realize again. I still cannot forgive you 'Sacred.'"

"……"

"But... I also share the same feelings as you."

"The same feelings…?"

"Yeah. I want to talk to you again, eat together... cooperate and fight together. I thought it would be fine if you 'Sacred' were in the corners of my ordinary daily life... that’s how I feel."

"Haise…"

Sasha widened her eyes slightly, trying to say something... but closed her mouth.

For now, she couldn't rely on Haise's kindness.

"Sasha, tell me your feelings. Your true feelings, without any lies."

"…………"

Sasha took a step, then another, moving within reach of Haise.

Then, she looked up, meeting Haise's gaze directly and said.

"I exiled you."

She stated the truth.

It was something undeniable and certain for Sasha as well.

"I became stronger as a 'Sword Master.' But you never awakened your 'ability,' and I took out my frustration on you... ultimately, I was convinced you couldn't keep up and exiled you. Even now, I can say... that decision was not wrong."

"…………"

"You almost died from the information I gave you, but ironically, you became stronger. You became the 'Embodiment of Darkness' fueled by your anger and resentment towards us, becoming an S-rank adventurer and the strongest... I have been avoiding you because I've feared to face you."

"…………"

"But facing you... apologizing... I felt a new bond forming and growing between us. I was just satisfied with my one-sided apology, but I haven't heard a single word from you about forgiving me."

"…………"

"I was relying on you. I took comfort in the kindness you gave me... prioritizing only my own fulfillment and denying your feelings about our new bond."

Sasha clenched her fists, lowered her face, and gritted her teeth.

Haise did not look away from Sasha.

And then, Sasha lifted her face... tears welling in her eyes.

"I'm sorry...!! Haise, I... still didn't want to lose the bond with you. Even if it's ugly, even if it's pathetic... that was my true feelings."

"...I see."

"Haise, I..."

"That's enough. If that's how you feel... then it's fine."

"...Huh?"

Haise pointed his index finger at Sasha, catching her tears.

"I won't forgive you all. But I won't deny a new bond either."

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Thus, Haise and Sasha reconciled.

It wasn't a perfect reconciliation. Haise still hadn't forgiven 'Sacred,' and Sasha didn't think she had been forgiven either.

But there was no longer any denial of the 'bond' that had been newly formed.

They laughed together, shared meals, and sometimes took on the same requests.

They accepted spending such time together.

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Beside during her trial in the labyrinth, Sasha was almost defeat by a shadow Hyce but win because she got angry the fake talk about forgiving her with her death. She said the true Hyce would never forgive her.

 

[Rafalga]

Spoiler

Until she gets usurped, and is expelled from her own clan.

Spoiler

Huh? When did this happen? I think i'm up to date with the WN. Which chapter is this (out of the current 27)? Or did you just write a fanfic on the fly?

 

[Vissions]

Spoiler

I don't know how or why it happen but I'm glad it happen ... if only MC didn't accept her afterward

S

Spoiler

asha will win. It's clear the author likes her, and the MC warms up to her and she is slowly winning over the MC. Plus MC does have feelings for her. However the relationship healing process happens pretty early on. This happens during the mission in the sky city. MC creates a helicopter to go to the sky city, I believe because they thought a dungeon was there. Regardless, he was getting ready to go alone, and Sasha ditches her clan in the last minute, and jumps towards the helicopter mid and grabs on to it mid acedance. So they end up in the sky city alone, pretty much making up but not fully. MC still doesn't forgive her at this point, nor does she take this time to talk things out. However, they still end up closer to making up. Smh.

 

[XellosPY]

I can tell that the plan in this story seems to be an MC/Sasha reconciliation, but I would really like for one of these manga to have a character kinda just move on and heal by knowing better people without going into edgelord revenge lol

 

[HawkGoggles]

She really didn't because she doesn't understand. She just knows he is mad but doesn't really see WHY he is mad. She still doesn't. Saying sorry but not really meaning it like some sort of sociopath is not a good look either. Mc just realized that and told her to (rightfully) fuck off.

Not meaning it and not fully understating how much you truly hurt someone aren't' the same thing. I agree, she sucks but she did try. And I'm not even saying he has to forgive her but no one in this story is interesting or handing what happened in a interesting way. They're all annoying.

 

[Jojo-san]

S

Spoiler

asha will win. It's clear the author likes her, and the MC warms up to her and she is slowly winning over the MC. Plus MC does have feelings for her. However the relationship healing process happens pretty early on. This happens during the mission in the sky city. MC creates a helicopter to go to the sky city, I believe because they thought a dungeon was there. Regardless, he was getting ready to go alone, and Sasha ditches her clan in the last minute, and jumps towards the helicopter mid and grabs on to it mid acedance. So they end up in the sky city alone, pretty much making up but not fully. MC still doesn't forgive her at this point, nor does she take this time to talk things out. However, they still end up closer to making up. Smh.

Spoiler: WN 295-296

Sasha went for the kiss, Hyce was on the verge to accept it, he even tried to grab her chest but they got interrupted by a demon who came to make a deal about the mean to access Necrofantasia, the labyrinth in the demon realm

 

[vali007]

I hope the manga differs from the WN, clearly the WN is a shit show.

 

[kuro0102]

dude why is everyone in this manga acting like the MC should be the one to seek the truth and set things straight

 

[RiffRaffROTFL]

If only Sasha would say "Hey Hyce i'm really sorry it was really a shity thing to kick you out without trying to train you or put you aside from the front lines for a while so we could investigate your skill, or to disregard your feelings about what the promise we made meant to you, i was childish. forgive me".
And Hyce too listened to her without cutting her off for once...

Anyway we all know who is the best girl:
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The problem as I see it is even after Hyce was wounded, his old party just left town to do missions instead of sticking around to make sure he was recovering. If Sasha had been there when he woke up instead of abandoning him for a second time, then maybe there would have been a chance. But, it's too late for any of that.