Negai o Kanaete Moraou to Akuma o Shoukan Shitakedo, Kawaikattanode Kekkonshimashita: Akuma no Niidzuma - Vol. 8 Ch. 38 - Are You a Child?

[Juggernautbob]

"Annoying way possible",like the usual -deres aren't all done the same way,along with the pick up artists,the teachers who don't actually fix anything,parents who do Jack Squat for their children,police so anemic they need medical asistance,yakuza thugs doing anything but what the hit series of games portray,underlings who wish to do things against better judgement,old Karen SJWs ranting at minimum wage workers,loosing childhood friends who end up nowhere despite being objectively better in some regard,or animated adaptations that completely downgrade the value of the original comic.

That said,this one is literally just thinking all about it in her head,and Helvi is making it impossible for her to ever get further,just like all the other females that Helvi has dealt with.

Just the fact you say comic instead of manga is already a huge red flag for a fake otaku. Don't tell me about dere types being annoying if you won't even say the right word for a Japanese "comic".

Also the "thinking about it in her head" doesn't make it any better when she's planning on doing it.

 

[Juggernautbob]

And as repeated before,having no hurdles to overcome makes a series not last,regardless of who is actually being the hurdle,and no amount of being a couple or even being married has ever meant they were safe,it doesn't happen in real life,why should it even happen in a comic?,more so comics that use it as the starting premise.

Also,they're only going after the lesbian because she's a lesbian,based purely off of how they worded themselves,they wouldn't have raised any objection whatsoever had it been someone pursuing Theo or a dude pursuing Helvi.

That's called hypocrisy.

Homosexuals and heterosexual people exist together,and interact with eachother,morons got to understand that them pursuing romantic interests is normal in real life and in fictional works,and them being used as one of many hurdles is normal,for hurdles are a staple trope that key to series longevity.

Nah, if it were a dude drooling over Helvi or a girl trying to get with Theo I'd still hate them equally. What's annoying is their personality, not whatever you're trying to project.

 

[Juggernautbob]

Killing two birds with one stone, as you can clearly see from the comment section, yurifans and het(normal) fans have polar opposite opinions, so its simply better to not have gay shit (ESPECIALLY when they're interrupting an established ship) in het romance, and vice versa.

Though seeing as I've seen yurifans drool over ansty NTR, I guess they're fine with getting cucked by het people.

anyway this is a dead discussion but I was bored and checked my old replies

Hey, if you want to throw some lewd lesbian side couple in a romance manga I'm reading, I'd probably clap. It's just annoying when a character adds nothing to the story, and interrupts any possible progress of an already established ship.

 

[Juggernautbob]

not sure why people think people hate her cuz she's a lesbo. people hate her cuz shes wanting to get between the main couple. it has nothing to do with being a lesbian.

Name checks out, thank you for your wisdom.

 

[WiseOldKing]

Nah, if it were a dude drooling over Helvi or a girl trying to get with Theo I'd still hate them equally. What's annoying is their personality, not whatever you're trying to project.

Any romance I read, I hate anyone who tries to get between the main couple. esp the 2nd ML when even they get rejected by main girl and they see how happy she is. They will STILL TRY. or that annoying trope of main girl having a best friend that hates men and tries to cockblock anytime. I could write an essay at this point lmao

if you want some wholesomeness no annoying side characters I'd recommend

• The Coppersmith's Bride - Mangadex missing 13 recent chapters/currently has 44 ch
• Gokugoku Futsuu no Fuufu no Hanashi
• The World Will Be Destroyed Tomorrow, so I Want to Rub Your Boobs
• Hunting in Another World With My Elf Wife - no harem
• Boku no Oku-san wa Chotto Kowa
• We're New at This

 

[Juggernautbob]

Any romance I read, I hate anyone who tries to get between the main couple. esp the 2nd ML when even they get rejected by main girl and they see how happy she is. They will STILL TRY. or that annoying trope of main girl having a best friend that hates men and tries to cockblock anytime. I could write an essay at this point lmao

if you want some wholesomeness no annoying side characters I'd recommend

• The Coppersmith's Bride - Mangadex missing 13 recent chapters/currently has 44 ch
• Gokugoku Futsuu no Fuufu no Hanashi
• The World Will Be Destroyed Tomorrow, so I Want to Rub Your Boobs
• Hunting in Another World With My Elf Wife - no harem
• Boku no Oku-san wa Chotto Kowa
• We're New at This

Thanks for the recommendations, I'll check them out when I get the time

 

[NARESH4444]

Just the fact you say comic instead of manga is already a huge red flag for a fake otaku. Don't tell me about dere types being annoying if you won't even say the right word for a Japanese "comic".

Also the "thinking about it in her head" doesn't make it any better when she's planning on doing it.

Nah, if it were a dude drooling over Helvi or a girl trying to get with Theo I'd still hate them equally. What's annoying is their personality, not whatever you're trying to project.

I say comic because all manga are comics,for someone complaining about projection,you're starting with a massive one.

Also,who says that only "otaku",the real deep end when you actually look into how the Japanese use it,are the only ones allowed to read them?,because congrats,thinking that everysingle comic reader(regardless of type)is a member is the exact misuse of terms that the West keeps projecting.

Starting this strong with both left feet forward,eh?

Good lord,actual and literal thought police right here,are you one of the morons who actually support governments tryng to crack down on online privacy?,because condeming someone for merely thinking up something is that tier of behaviour.

Also,you being the limited exception in terms of sample size doesn't make your opinion worth anything,plenty of others are specifcially going after lesbian characters like her on plenty of comics when those same folk say nothing about the prior male competition,all of them being fairly moronic when it comes to realising what competition actually means for a comic.

I don't know what kind of illicit substance you've been taking,but it has clearly made you dumber then even the average Westerner.

 

[NARESH4444]

This is... Likable? Interfering with a happy married couple due to your own selfish desires is likable behavior?..

Yeah... Not sure what planet you're from, but here on earth, I think a very small percentage of the population would agree with that, and they wouldn't exactly be good people.

Yes,she is likeable,because as said multiple times before and after,people are hating on her first and foremost for being a lesbian(no one complained about the straight male competition nor straight female competition),secondly is her being the exact kind of rough friction one needs to actually progress a story.

Every story that was smooth sailing the whole way has either been short or lasted so long that whoever was originally interested have already left out of boredom,for nothing of significance happens in a story set with so much actionable potential.

Third,yes,said people exist,which is why having them exist in fiction is realistic,able to be worked upon due to real references,and can even reliably do thing that others have without being called exaggerated,she's perfectly likeable as a well made competitive character,your puny sample sized opinions will not gain you anything.

Speaking of,are you seriously trying to use the planet argument for something people can agree on when others don't,when said people maximum sample size is everyone who reads fiction online?,you're beyong hopeless at even trying to make any point at all.

 

[Juggernautbob]

Yes,she is likeable,because as said multiple times before and after,people are hating on her first and foremost for being a lesbian(no one complained about the straight male competition nor straight female competition),secondly is her being the exact kind of rough friction one needs to actually progress a story.

Every story that was smooth sailing the whole way has either been short or lasted so long that whoever was originally interested have already left out of boredom,for nothing of significance happens in a story set with so much actionable potential.

Third,yes,said people exist,which is why having them exist in fiction is realistic,able to be worked upon due to real references,and can even reliably do thing that others have without being called exaggerated,she's perfectly likeable as a well made competitive character,your puny sample sized opinions will not gain you anything.

Speaking of,are you seriously trying to use the planet argument for something people can agree on when others don't,when said people maximum sample size is everyone who reads fiction online?,you're beyong hopeless at even trying to make any point at all.

Haha you said beyong.

Alright, I suppose this type of person exists in real life, I'll give you that. Did you know this type of person is also annoying and hated in real life as well? So don't blame me, and most of the people in the comments, when we hate on a character that is LITERALLY DESIGNED TO BE HATED.

So yes, while this character is perhaps funny, their personality sucks and their ethics (trying to break up a happy couple so that they can satiate their own lust) are downright degenerate and disgusting.

Competition, friction, rivalry, all of these are things I personally love, that doesn't mean I have to love someone or some character who absolutely deserves horrible things to happen to them for trying to ruin relationships.

I could maybe excuse it if they were boyfriend and girlfriend, but they are (willingly and happily) MARRIED. At that point anyone trying to interfere is just scum.

So I applaud the author, because they skillfully made an antagonistic character that was meant to be hated, and got the desired results.

 

[Juggernautbob]

I say comic because all manga are comics,for someone complaining about projection,you're starting with a massive one.

Also,who says that only "otaku",the real deep end when you actually look into how the Japanese use it,are the only ones allowed to read them?,because congrats,thinking that everysingle comic reader(regardless of type)is a member is the exact misuse of terms that the West keeps projecting.

Starting this strong with both left feet forward,eh?

Good lord,actual and literal thought police right here,are you one of the morons who actually support governments tryng to crack down on online privacy?,because condeming someone for merely thinking up something is that tier of behaviour.

Also,you being the limited exception in terms of sample size doesn't make your opinion worth anything,plenty of others are specifcially going after lesbian characters like her on plenty of comics when those same folk say nothing about the prior male competition,all of them being fairly moronic when it comes to realising what competition actually means for a comic.

I don't know what kind of illicit substance you've been taking,but it has clearly made you dumber then even the average Westerner.

1. I said fake otaku because you bad mouthed dere types while also using the term comic for a manga, on a site called mangadex. That's just annoying to me.

2. Thinking is fine, I think all the time, the problem here is that she's not just thinking, she's PLANNING. Meaning she is actually going to DO what she is thinking, or would do it if she could. There is a major difference between thinking something and planning something. Nobody ever gets arrested for thinking of commiting a crime, plenty of people do get arrested for planning to do one.

3. Are there people hating on her just because she's a woman going after another woman? Sure. Am I one of them? No. Does this therefore make my opinion irrelevant? I'd say no, quite the opposite. While some are just hating because of unrelated opinions of what may or may not be right, I am voicing my dislike of her based entirely on how she acts, and what kind of person this character portrays. To sum it up, my hatred of her is reasonable and valid.

4. If I truly was dumber than the average Westerner, I wouldn't be able to form coherent thoughts, or have a discussion where I both agreed and disagreed with other people.

So final summary, I agree that this character exists in real life to some extent, that she pushes the plot forwards and adds (possibly) necessary friction, and that she is very well made. I disagree on her being likable though, Her actions and morals are just too contrary to my own. anyone who would (or in her case, try to) ruin another person's happiness for purely selfish reasons is a horrible person not deserving of a place in society.

 

[Gangers]

now that it got brough up, i am curious what is everyones height