Mieruko-chan - Ch. 66

[MangaxDe]

https://imgur.com/a/HWH4tA4

 

[feha]

I tried to keep it as accurate to the original as possible, but also take into consideration what I personally thinks he means. It's a mixture of abstract concepts, some philosophical, some physics stuff as well. It's deliberately hard to grasp tho, so I tried to keep it that way.

Yeah like I said it feels to me like the occult equivalent to technobabble. And that part about mangaka not understanding the concepts was more a joke about the science not being a real thing irl, so of course they can't understand them - they do not exist!

As for the philosophy you mention, yeah, I think there was some references to that standard "shadows of higher dimensions" and "quantum mechanics means human perception decides what is real" stuff manga likes to use to explain their stuff. But more babbly. Because hte pointwas to make nonsense mc and reader can't understand.

 

[vangstampede]

Always love good ol' plot progression in this manga.

 

[jvlg]

Alright, trying to unpack Seto's ramblings:

"Perception is like a folded up map. The moment it's unfolded, it seems as though the location was already fixed. But you should know that is only an illusion.
Distortions that reject language, forcing the understanding of their structure into a mold, they consume definition"

"Just when you think you've touched it, the outline collapses and you lose sight of it"

What I gather here is, any attempt at understanding a ghost (a "distortion") is your monkey brain trying to make sense of things it has no concept for, shoehorning your own concepts and preconceptions into it ("into a mold"). Further prodding and investigation will reveal how fuzzy and weak your understanding, the "outline" of your definition/mold for that ghost, really was, and so you're back to square one trying to apply a different mold.

"Symbols cloak their form in disguises, wavelengths get disturbed and infect the thoughts."

"Phases fluctuate and existence interferes, yet meaning continues, on the reverse side of the meaning you're aware of"

What I think he's getting at is, the ghosts take advantage of these attempts at being "understood", donning any concepts applied to them as a disguise, and having this conceptual disguise spread to others.
So, hypothetically if someone met a "formless" spirit and went "omg, it's a kitsune!", the spirit would now take the form of a kitsune on future meetings with other people, and be further defined by other people's pre-conception of what a kitsune is.
Like a tulpa, these spirits (or rather their disguise) is shaped by human perception and conception, though (unlike most tulpa), this is on a collective, cultural level.
Concepts infecting thoughts of others.

All of this however is a superficial understanding, hiding the real, unknowable definition of what the spirit and it's motives actually are.

"From the start, there was never a partition. All things overlap."

This I'm not sure about. There's the obvious talk about there being no "partition", no tags or molds or definitions that can ever truly apply in helping categorize and thus understand what a spirit is, because ..."all things overlap".
As in, all spirits, underneath their disguise, are all the same I guess?

"I merely stand in the gaps"

"As long as there's margins left"

"So that distortions don't cross the barrier"

Whatever it is Seto does to exorcise spirits, it relies on these "gaps", the "margins" in definition and categorization, the "holes" in a spirits disguise.
The part about crossing the barrier could simply be about preventing their influence on the real world, ...or it could be worry about something that may happen if a definition manages to be solid enough that there's no gaps.
But I'm probably reading too much into that, and it's just the former.

...And then there's whatever the fuck Romm is talking about with modding bugs out.
I may dabble in NofNA-speak, but I don't speak Skibidi-talk at all.

 

[zeroto7dan]

His "explanation" makes just as little sense as the old man's. Why would debuggers "not have the authority to fix the bug" and just who does he mean when speaking about them? The concept of installing a mod to bypass a problem in software comes from the expectation that it won't be fixed due to cessation of support, not a lack of authority.

just because a person is a debugger that doesn't mean that person can debug any section of the game, in a big project, a dev can only have an authority to access a very specific portion of a project. as for who is he talking about its probably the team who handle the ghost section of this game and the root of this problem is probably outside of their scope if there is such a thing anyway.

for modding, it would be easy to understand if we say this game (their world) is an online game, yes, you can mod online games but there is a limit to that, besides what they are doing is not really debugging nor fixing a bug using mods because that would assume that the problem would never occurred again, what they are doing is just using their unique skill in game to mitigate the effect of the bug to a number of people within their reach.

 

[TetraSky]

I guess I'm dumb, I did not understand their explanation.

 

[UncleKaos]

the old man is basically like Punisher from Marvel comics. ALL who does crime must be killed regardless of how minor it is.
He doesn't care if they are good or evil. he just destroys them.... and suffer consequences later. sooner or later an extremely powerful deity will come after him. he is only alive because of his bodyguards.

 

[Hadski]

https://imgur.com/a/HWH4tA4

i hate you, thanks

 

[Redsaint]

Guardian is truly is the Goat of the manga.
I want a chapter of father/guardian going on a minor adventure.

 

[goro-goro]

Didn't she get her tentacle powers nerfed and nearly fully exorcised?

i think the tentacles are retracted because shes more open now and not defensive againts someone who try being close to miko(?) (and also something similar happened to her past)

tbh im not sure whats going on either, because the recent ch she still use em

 

[userpadrao]

My take on it.

There is "something" there, in all these places. Whether human spirits (like her dad, or the family in the hospital) or random yokai type spirits, the person viewing them may go off their subconcious thoughts of what they could actually look like. Why Miko can see them better than Romm or Mitsue, I can't guess.

Why the middle aged man looks the way he does.. its uncanny valley effect. Whats more scary than someone that "looks normal" but really isnt, you could walk past this guy on the street and pay him no mind, but the time you actually look at him.. he seems off.

Remember, the real monsters, are the ones that don't look like monsters.

Why Miko can see them better than Romm or Mitsue, I can't guess.

I think Miko inherited her ability from her dad.

Remember, the real monsters, are the ones that don't look like monsters.

It makes some sense, but how about Miko's dad? He for sure has the most normal appearance.

 

[JumboWheat01]

Instructions unclear, started praising Cthulhu.

 

[userpadrao]

I tried to keep it as accurate to the original as possible, but also take into consideration what I personally thinks he means. It's a mixture of abstract concepts, some philosophical, some physics stuff as well. It's deliberately hard to grasp tho, so I tried to keep it that way.

Don't worry, thanks for your hard work

 

[screamdoom]

They gonna have some beef with that tentacles

 

[Karamru]

Why Miko can see them better than Romm or Mitsue, I can't guess.

Yuria as well, though her ability seems to be in a very early stage

 

[ciera]

Thanks for the release

 

[swimminginsand]

Mieruko POV for the next arc

 

[Senpaithatfriendzonesyou]

I get the feeling that the restaurant ghost, was telling seto to leave Miko alone. Starting to think that most of the ghosts are chill.

 

[Babymech2]

Remember, the real monsters, are the ones that don't look like monsters.

I can't believe you'd call him 'not a real monster'...

 

[KynarethNoBaka]

I get the feeling that the restaurant ghost, was telling seto to leave Miko alone. Starting to think that most of the ghosts are chill.

I think ghosts are like people. Most are good, but despite that, there's nothing more dangerous in our world than another human being, and the evil ones spend every day practicing hiding it, while you'll only be able to practice detection in the worst situations to do so - when they're already unmasked.