Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi o Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 42 - The Uprising of the Nosey Girls

[bonkleboi]

I dont want to see them make up until Yuu grows a spine

 

[GennArc]

Eh, he was kinda worried that he'd run into Aya at the festival and there'd be a blow up. So he did foresee the possibility, but just decided it was unlikely enough that he was gonna not deal w/ it.

By the way, now that I think about it, it started making less sense after chapter 40 and after his POV chapters. He decided that Yami dropped out of the school. He didn't know about Aya-chan = Yami-senpai, so he didn't know they were friends. So why was he that hesitant to come?
I can see three possibilities: he said she dropped out to give himself a reason to stop coming and he actually still thought it's possible she attends; or he learned something between that POV flashback and the festival; or maybe it just didn't have anything to do with Yami.

 

[Rafalga]

lol what are they angry at Yuu of all people? I understand if you are curious about the situation but tracking him down and snapping at him ON SIGHT? What kind of self righteous bullshit is this lol? Do you even know what's going on?

edt. What's up with the bot accounts spamming emotes on comments lately? Or is it just bunch of coward retards too scared of posting with their mains?

edit. Correction. It seems to be a single pathetic retard

And. He. Just. keeps. going.

We are at No.9.

Lmao

Hey retard, back for 10th?

 

[GennArc]

lol what are they angry at Yuu of all people? I understand if you are curious about the situation but tracking him down and snapping at him ON SIGHT? What kind of self righteous bullshit is this lol? Do you even know what's going on?

It kinda makes sense from a meta perspective, they know how much Hikari talked about him and how sunny of a person she is, so her making such a scene + Yami's disappearance make them realize something happened, and Yuu was in the middle of it. And it's easier to single out someone they don't know and get angry at him instead of either of their friends.

 

[EchoGirl]

love the unnecessarily nice lingerie (well one girls seems like it's 'fancier' than the others). as a teen i wasn't rly thinking about it (tho i bet jp has nice shops even for high school girls) but feels like unless your parents gave you a nice allowance or some sports bra/comfy that'd grow with you, would be a pain/expensive to wear 'nice' lacey lingerie (esp if you had like a gym class daily versus like once a week

'side piece' lol

Yuu deserves some forgiveness. Anyone painting him as a horrible person has never gone through the struggle that is teenage angst/romance.

IDK if they're friends now again or he gave her another 'chance' but he def wasn't interested in her anymore by the time he was sleeping with yami senpai lol

wonder how she'd react if he gave her a deep kiss technique to scare her off...unless that'd make her more menhera/yandere for him

I liked things better when I could forget this series existed.

Still not as fucked up as 'i wanted to be hurt by love' (yet lol)

 

[HellJester]

By the way, now that I think about it, it started making less sense after chapter 40 and after his POV chapters. He decided that Yami dropped out of the school. He didn't know about Aya-chan = Yami-senpai, so he didn't know they were friends. So why was he that hesitant to come?
I can see three possibilities: he said she dropped out to give himself a reason to stop coming and he actually still thought it's possible she attends; or he learned something between that POV flashback and the festival; or maybe it just didn't have anything to do with Yami.

Knowing how passive Yuu has been in the past, the most likely explanation is he's not 100% sure that Yami stopped going to school but he stopped looking for her there because he was afraid of running into Hikari. Now that he has an excuse to go back he's hesitating as he's either afraid of seeing Yami again or he's afraid she and Hikari will meet (lol too late Yuu) and Yami will throw a wrench in Yuu's glacially paced plan to romance Hikari.

 

[Kind_Nesz]

CAN ANYONE CONFIRM IF WE ARE BACK TO MASTER BRANCH?? I was just seeing comment after "that" arc

 

[Kunashir]

Damn I didnt realise how long it has been, or how much the ratings for this declined. I hope we are back lol. Always enjoyed reading the comments on this more than anything

 

[MasterKurosawaKakeru]

Yuu deserves some forgiveness. Anyone painting him as a horrible person has never gone through the struggle that is teenage angst/romance.

All of these kids deserve some sympathy. Yami has messed up bad several times, and Hikari and Yuu would be justified to cut their ties with her, but the amount of hatred she gets in these threads even though we know she's a traumatized victim of domestic and sexual abuse is worrying. Like, yes, she's not a good person, but Jesus Christ, what she needs is genuine help, not even more scorn and abuse. Reminds me of MHA and how people were cheering for the villains' deaths even after learning their backstories.

 

[middle-the-nerd]

lol what are they angry at Yuu of all people? I understand if you are curious about the situation but tracking him down and snapping at him ON SIGHT? What kind of self righteous bullshit is this lol? Do you even know what's going on?

I mean they basically say they DON'T know right?

Yami deleted her contacts and stopped coming to school and they aren't getting anything out of Hikari so Yuu kinda the only option left

Although yeah kinda wild snapping at him like that lol

 

[Rafalga]

I don't know if that's actually true in his case, but some of his thoughts in the POV chapters make me wonder. I don't think it's something bad or anything, and I don't think he doesn't actually have feelings for Hikari - but he almost seems to idolize her, which also can lead to dehumanizing someone (though not in a "tearing down" way, but in a "building up to an unrealistic ideal" way).

I said this back when during their festival "date" chapter when Hikari was expecting a confession but received a completely different sort.

He confessed his inferiority complex towards her instead because that's the biggest part in his thoughts concerning Hikari. If we will see any growth from Yuu, it needs to be him getting over the main block in his mind and it is this complex. But getting over that might mean getting over Hikari all together and its completely fine as well.

I've said it before but Hikari doesn't belong in this series and that's biggest reason why the rating of this manga is the way it is right now. For the first chapters people were here to read yet another "girl failure" shoujo romcom slop with yet another good at everything but somehow emotionally stunned female lead. Next to her, we have two VERY flawed characters with depth and complicated circumstances. Contrast is too stark. Now those who, by their own description, "baited" by the initial premise are openly hostile to the two characters that disrupted the slop. There is no space to discuss character perceptions or objective point of views as a reader without getting ad-hominemed to oblivion by these self inserters.

After reading the Yuu chapters, it's kinda made it apparent that Maruto couldn't help but write a self reflection with Yuu since he said he is very much like him in his youth so there is an obvious resentment / self deprecation in the writing there. Which is the worst thing any writer can do. We are not here to read of your self hatred reflecting on a character. Hikari is probably someone he himself idolized when he was younger so that's why she is like this perfect social butterfly loved by everyone but ultimately delusional and i don't believe even for a second that she will have any lasting resentments and will forgive everyone and work towards fixing the relationships, even Yami.

Only thing worth to tell for this story is for Yuu to have a proper growth and maybe some Yami growth as well (which should involve a therapist) . Hikari is already perfect so there is not much to do there and i don't see any need for her and Yuu getting together since story , up until this point, continued to tell us that they really don't belong together. Not while Yuu had zero change since middle school.

 

[jojoka]

Realistically Yuu fumbled Hikari and they shouldn't reconcile the romance ever she should move on, Yami is just a self destructive loser that no one should waste their time on.
Yuu is incredibly unlikable for being a spineless loser and has been this way for years in the story so he should find personal growth without the motivation of wanting to get into Hikaris skirt if the series wants to make me care about Yuu he needs to actually become better for himself instead of for a girl he lost.

 

[Rafalga]

Realistically Yuu fumbled Hikari and they shouldn't reconcile the romance ever she should move on, Yami is just a self destructive loser that no one should waste their time on.
Yuu is incredibly unlikable for being a spineless loser and has been this way for years in the story so he should find personal growth without the motivation of wanting to get into Hikaris skirt if the series wants to make me care about Yuu he needs to actually become better for himself instead of for a girl he lost.

God damn, you guys are something else. You'd think he was a serial rapist or something if someone read your comment but didn't have the context.

 

[NeloDante]

ITT: People that thinks teenagers with traumas should behave like mature adults that have no feelings and are robotic.

 

[karmsand]

I don't care about the drama, those nice tan-lines and ass-shots were worth the wait.

 

[GennArc]

Knowing how passive Yuu has been in the past, the most likely explanation is he's not 100% sure that Yami stopped going to school but he stopped looking for her there because he was afraid of running into Hikari. Now that he has an excuse to go back he's hesitating as he's either afraid of seeing Yami again or he's afraid she and Hikari will meet (lol too late Yuu) and Yami will throw a wrench in Yuu's glacially paced plan to romance Hikari.

Yeah, I think that's the most reasonable explanation. Still, I'd be pleased to see that he did end up learning something in-between.

if the series wants to make me care about Yuu he needs to actually become better for himself instead of for a girl he lost.

A lot of people say this, but should he do to convince you he became better/grew as a person? Like, name a few examples.

 

[gmkgoat]

Yom must have had a field day drawing this. Tights and underwear and silly faces on every page

 

[SrNevik]

This topic has been debated to death in previous chapter posts but I'll tl:dr it here.

Yes, Yuu did not find out that the person he knew as Yami senpai was the same person Hikari was telling him about (Aya-chan) until his confrontation with Yami in the classroom during the festival. Yami hit Yuu with a lot of information during that confrontation. It's understandable that Yuu would be hesitant to mention to Hikari that he used to date her best friend as he wants Hikari to accept his confession.

I think the big sticking point is that people are arguing that Yuu shouldn't have confessed right then, instead he should have told Hikari what was going on. Something like "Hikari, I just found out that the person I used to date is your friend Aya-chan. I didn't know the two of you were friends and I don't want to make things awkward." <--However that scenario is not realistic due to how we've seen Yuu behave in the past.

The best moment to tell her would have been when Yuu left the classroom and found Hikari. We get from Yuu's POV that he realized something was wrong with the way Hikari was acting but he decided to ignore that and just barrel ahead with his confession.

Can't speak for others just myself but I will say my dislike of Yuu comes from the following:

1) He's liked Hikari romantically for a long time but the only effort we're shown is him half-heartedly attempting to get into her high school. Yuu admits it's too late for him to succeed but he needs to try. It left me with the impression that his love for Hikari must not be that strong as he doesn't seem to put much effort in.

2) Once Yuu inevitably fails, he near immediately ends up going to a love hotel with Yami. It's off-putting to hear him talk about how much he loves Hikari but then go for the first girl who shows him any interest. He appears disingenuous.

3) After all of that, when he does end up confessing to Hikari he gives her a whole spiel about how he's always been in love with her. I don't doubt that he has been in love with her and I don't fault him for stating that since there's no way he could know that Hikari witnessed Yami kissing him. However, knowing what we know and knowing what Hikari knows, his confession of always loving her comes off as insincere given how we're only shown two times he's made an effort (trying to get into her school and then this confession) and how quickly he moved on from trying to get Hikari to the literal first girl who came next.

Now, I understand where all y'all are coming from when you discuss Yuu's flaws and his insecurities. I can sympathize with him a bit as I, too, was like that when I was a teenage boy. It's just frustrating to root for the guy when even Yami put more effort into pursuing Yuu than Yuu did pursuing Hikari.

In this manga, we've seen Aya improve from when she first met Hikari. She was going back to school and had made good friends with Hikari, Haru & Yuki. Up until the festival confrontation with Yuu, Aya was showing growth.

We've seen Hikari grow as she came to terms with her feelings for Yuu. We saw her try to pursue Yuu even though a lot of her efforts were for naught. We saw a bit of emotional maturity as she confronted Aya and defended Yuu to her.

We haven't really seen Yuu make much growth as a character. He didn't really learn anything from his pursuit of Hikari. He didn't really learn anything from his relationship with Aya. He did seem to finally start noticing Hikari's actions but even with that he mentions he wasn't 100% sure she liked him and admits he wasn't going to confess unless he was at 100%.

Again, it's just hard to like the guy when you see everyone else putting in more effort. Hell, Haru & Yuki put in more effort by skipping class and tracking Yuu down. They were willing to show up to his school to find him, something Yuu wanted to do to find Yami but chickened out. Even Seki (who in Chapter 12.5 states to her friend that she doesn't even really like Yuu) put in more effort to pursue him than Yuu ever did for the girl he confessed to always love.

Lovely put. In short, he's been more of a wet mop than even Aya. Everything happens around Yuu with little agency from him. He trips all over the place, knocking over things along the way while trying to catch himself. Some people want to excuse all the shit he breaks while trying to catch his balance--others (I think rightfully) don't give him that pass.

He's not a baby and has handled many of these situations terribly. Explaining why he's handled them terribly by mentioning his insecurities, etc. doesn't change the effects. Everything has a reason. Having a reason isn't an excuse. He shouldn't be in any relationships if this is how he currently will continue to be and he's very culpable for how this situation has spiraled. He doesn't get to pretend it's just crazy women, like some guys typically default to.

 

[LordTartaros]

Nice cake

 

[jojoka]

A lot of people say this, but should he do to convince you he became better/grew as a person? Like, name a few examples.

Firstly and most of all, talk. In the novel he's constantly acting like an insecure worm and acting really creepy. He didn't push Yami off of him or properly state he's not interested in her anymore.
Second it looks like he only ever hanged around Hikari and Yami instead of having an independent friendship circle, of course this could be bad writing but it still looks like he's following the girls in his life around like a little dog (this includes his pov chapters). If he started to have a varied group of friends show up making us see he has enough self respect not to just revolve his life around girls.
Third he needs to get over his victim mentality, the "four heartbreaks" in his life is retarded. He needs to accept that sometimes he won't get the girl.
If in the next few chapters he talks to Hikari with no expectations of a romantic relationship to patch things up and try to keep their friendship and then he started developing his own life and fulfilment over wallowing in self pity I'd like him way more, the fact he tried to follow his crush to school instead of trying to get into the school for himself was so gay too. Also he needs to cut Yami off, she's completely unstable and keeping her around is limp dick behaviour.