Itsuka Fukushuu Suru so no Tame ni - Ch. 18 - Something good will definitely happen tomorrow too.

[RollOmega]

This is getting annoying for me. The guy's thoughts being visible in the frame took the ambiguity out and it doesn't look like there's any chance for a positive ending, since she's the only one changing, yet he doesn't seem to have the balls to actually do anything.

You say this now, but just wait for the gradient on Perspective-kun's thought bubbles to start shifting.

 

[LunaVenator]

do tell me more

Its not that good for the story, tbh it make the story worse not in a good way, it just doesn't make any sense

 

[Haydrion101]

Are you guys complaining that the guy BULLIED to the point he wants to enact a SUICIDE plan just to get back at her is being negative towards their BULLY after she spend at most TWO DAYS actively trying to make him happy?

Wild, innit?

At this point I'm going to be disappointed if this doesn't end in some kind of boogaloo and just simmers out.

Same. Talk about wasted potential if it does.

I feel like creating chaos today, so here's what sort of bullying the FMC did to the MC.

Spoiler: NSFW

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Some kind chinaman uploaded more, but not up to the latest: https://exhentai.org/g/3541942/89575a1470/

The comment by shirayanagi07 in that gallery is pretty good, especially for explaining the offer to sell videos of FMC having sex.

Well, now I really want her to suffer.

 

[Randika214]

I think theyre complaining that the chapters are repetitive and its bad story telling. Yeah we get it. It won't happen instantly. We don't need to see 700 pages of her doing this until he does start to feel better.

This manga has been repetitive storytelling since beginning though.

 

[Falconia147]

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I feel like creating chaos today, so here's what sort of bullying the FMC did to the MC.

Spoiler: NSFW

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Some kind chinaman uploaded more, but not up to the latest: https://exhentai.org/g/3541942/89575a1470/

The comment by shirayanagi07 in that gallery is pretty good, especially for explaining the offer to sell videos of FMC having sex.

Does anyone know the translation of the text? Like, what is written here in Japanese?

 

[Randika214]

I feel like creating chaos today, so here's what sort of bullying the FMC did to the MC.

Spoiler: NSFW

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Some kind chinaman uploaded more, but not up to the latest: https://exhentai.org/g/3541942/89575a1470/

The comment by shirayanagi07 in that gallery is pretty good, especially for explaining the offer to sell videos of FMC having sex.

I still think she already get her punishment and deserved to be happy now.

 

[catsdontsmile]

I feel like creating chaos today, so here's what sort of bullying the FMC did to the MC.

Spoiler: NSFW

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Some kind chinaman uploaded more, but not up to the latest: https://exhentai.org/g/3541942/89575a1470/

The comment by shirayanagi07 in that gallery is pretty good, especially for explaining the offer to sell videos of FMC having sex.

how the hell do you access exhentai? I tried clearing my cookies, making an account in e-h, deleting yay from the cookies, nothing!

 

[Kimochi-kun]

I still think she already get her punishment and deserved to be happy now.

They're on their way to be happy

The FMC, and yes also the MC.

 

[Ingway]

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Does anyone know the translation of the text? Like, what is written here in Japanese?

Seems to be her mocking and talking shit about him "exposing it" in the top texts, like calling him abnormal and a freak, while the black text is her threatening him that if he ever tells anyone about the bullying they'll expose the video online.

 

[Sayonarara]

This is getting annoying for me. The guy's thoughts being visible in the frame took the ambiguity out and it doesn't look like there's any chance for a positive ending, since she's the only one changing, yet he doesn't seem to have the balls to actually do anything.

Also I found the R18 stuff on this yesterday... no, just no.

No? I'm concerned what the r18 stuff is

 

[Sayonarara]

I feel like creating chaos today, so here's what sort of bullying the FMC did to the MC.

Spoiler: NSFW

View attachment 30359

Some kind chinaman uploaded more, but not up to the latest: https://exhentai.org/g/3541942/89575a1470/

The comment by shirayanagi07 in that gallery is pretty good, especially for explaining the offer to sell videos of FMC having sex.

🥲

 

[Eighty-six]

Are you guys complaining that the guy BULLIED to the point he wants to enact a SUICIDE plan just to get back at her is being negative towards their BULLY after she spend at most TWO DAYS actively trying to make him happy?

Yes, because she hasn't bullied him for a long while, he gave her friendship as part of some convoluted plan to cause her grave suffering despite her contrition, and now she's actively trying to make his life better.

I understand that his mind is darkened, but he honestly should have just joined in on her bullying from the start instead of this goofy business. Or maybe he should have called the cops. But no, instead, he was going to kill himself on the off-chance she would feel bad about it. Not only was he banking on her being hurt by his suicide, he was going tor rob himself of the satisfaction of his revenge.

 

[Falconia147]

Seems to be her mocking and talking shit about him "exposing it" in the top texts, like calling him abnormal and a freak, while the black text is her threatening him that if he ever tells anyone about the bullying they'll expose the video online.

So she wasn't wrong when she said she was a piece of shit.

 

[MostlyHumanTLs]

how the hell do you access exhentai? I tried clearing my cookies, making an account in e-h, deleting yay from the cookies, nothing!

For most galleries, you can just change the "x" in the domain name to a "-" and you'll be able to see it as long as it's not "forbidden" content. This one is viewable without logging in.

As for making an account, I remember it being as simple as registering on the forum, logging in there, then after a few minutes you're logged into the main website. Might need to clear cookies at some point in between those actions? No clue. It's so rare that I have to re-log in that I forget, but it was never anything complicated.

 

[Burner5]

Yes, because she hasn't bullied him for a long while, he gave her friendship as part of some convoluted plan to cause her grave suffering despite her contrition, and now she's actively trying to make his life better.

It has only been TWO days since she made any active attempts to improve his life. Those were saving him from a suicide attempt (something he himself was planning on doing since the beginning), and bringing him out on a single date which SHE insisted he should go to. Why would he forgive her for driving him to suicide after one date and ruining his plans?

I understand that his mind is darkened, but he honestly should have just joined in on her bullying from the start instead of this goofy business. Or maybe he should have called the cops.

Joining in on the bullying doesn't make it HIS revenge though. He'd just be a part of another's actions. The suicide plan was meant to hurt her personally.

Also cops? Going to the cops when society is more likely to favour a female victim over a male one and in a society of shame where being a victim of certain crimes is heavily stigmatized is likely to get him laughed at at best. Ignored and shamed for the rest of his life at worst.

But no, instead, he was going to kill himself on the off-chance she would feel bad about it. Not only was he banking on her being hurt by his suicide, he was going tor rob himself of the satisfaction of his revenge.

He was already suicidal. His sole reason to live WAS to kill himself in order to hurt her. Hell, he was taking his time to make sure she loved him enough FOR his death to hurt. He didn't care about the aftermath as he WANTED TO DIE.

 

[Burner5]

I think theyre complaining that the chapters are repetitive and its bad story telling. Yeah we get it. It won't happen instantly. We don't need to see 700 pages of her doing this until he does start to feel better.

It's only been 8 chapters at most since she's made any effort to make him feel better. Even then, only 5 of those chapters were her actively trying to help him. These are 1 page chapters too so I don't get the length/pacing argument.

We JUST started getting his thoughts in the actual panels itself only 2 chapters ago. It took her 5 chapters to even begin to be hopeful and she didn't have any of the baggage he had. I just think people are just a bit too impatient.

 

[Kimochi-kun]

It has only been TWO days since she made any active attempts to improve his life. Those were saving him from a suicide attempt (something he himself was planning on doing since the beginning), and bringing him out on a single date which SHE insisted he should go to. Why would he forgive her for driving him to suicide after one date and ruining his plans?

Joining in on the bullying doesn't make it HIS revenge though. He'd just be a part of another's actions. The suicide plan was meant to hurt her personally.

Also cops? Going to the cops when society is more likely to favour a female victim over a male one and in a society of shame where being a victim of certain crimes is heavily stigmatized is likely to get him laughed at at best. Ignored and shamed for the rest of his life at worst.

He was already suicidal. His sole reason to live WAS to kill himself in order to hurt her. Hell, he was taking his time to make sure she loved him enough FOR his death to hurt. He didn't care about the aftermath as he WANTED TO DIE.

Ahh, always nice to see someone that understand.

 

[Eighty-six]

It has only been TWO days since she made any active attempts to improve his life.

And it's been however long since he's dissimulated with her a friendship that was life-savingly beneficial for her, not making it clear he intractably resented her for whatever actions against him while she constantly brought up her remorse by herself.

Those were saving him from a suicide attempt (something he himself was planning on doing since the beginning), and bringing him out on a single date which SHE insisted he should go to.

So, you're saying she saved his life, and then resolved to actively repay the kindness he showed her (pretense notwithstanding), after however much time he spent dissimulating friendship.

Joining in on the bullying doesn't make it HIS revenge though.

If his revenge was a person, it would have severe congenital neurobiological deficiencies. This guy doesn't get to have revenge plans.

Also cops? Going to the cops when society is more likely to favour a female victim

No, stop that-- she had video evidence of her crimes, since she made the videos as part of his humiliation. That's not just assault, that's CP. Prosecution would be trivially easy, especially at the start of this story, not least of all because she'd probably have just accepted it as her comeuppance by chapter 1. Literally, the only justification you can give is the meta-explanation of "the police in manga are generally only useful inasmuch as they're an obstacle for the protagonist".

He was already suicidal. His sole reason to live WAS to kill himself in order to hurt her.

For one thing, chapter 15.1's title is "It's not like I wanna kill myself over my suffering", so that's not correct.

Second: suicide was not the original plan, which is why revenge is talked about in every chapter title with no reference to suicide until chapter 13, titled "I wonder whether you'd suffer more if I died". In fact, we don't even know what the plan originally was beyond him betraying her after he sufficiently ingratiated himself with her. Suicide became the plan after he got the shoes beat off him by the girl's bullies, and he saw how distraught she was because he got A) bullied B) because of her. Then he figured, "I can make her feel bad by killing myself!"

But how did he plan to enjoy his revenge after making himself dead as hell?

I'm not saying he has to forgive her-- I'm not even saying he shouldn't have a revenge plot. But he's already dissimulated forgiveness for someone that's incessantly remorseful for her past actions, and has granted her companionship and dependency on top of that. He has willingly and actively associated, and spent time on, and taken out to dates (plural), this woman who sexually assaulted and humiliated him. This presumably has caused him continued anguish, except this time, he's proactively invited that anguish onto himself.

This is just inefficient. Incoherent, even.

Kid should have just got a gun-- or shot her with a kyuudou arrow, or something, since it'd be difficult to get a gun in Japan.

 

[Burner5]

And it's been however long since he's dissimulated with her a friendship that was life-savingly beneficial for her, not making it clear he intractably resented her for whatever actions against him while she constantly brought up her remorse by herself.

And my point is that he WOULD NOT FORGIVE HER after her spending ONLY TWO DAYS with him trying to cheer him up.

So, you're saying she saved his life, and then resolved to actively repay the kindness he showed her (pretense notwithstanding), after however much time he spent dissimulating friendship.

Yes saving his life after HE WANTED TO DIE! You do know that people aren't always happy to have their life saved. ESPECIALLY BY THE PERSON THEY DEVOTED THEIR LIFE TO RUINING!

If his revenge was a person, it would have severe congenital neurobiological deficiencies. This guy doesn't get to have revenge plans.

He HAD revenge plans but outside influences got in the way. THAT IS THE ENTIRE POINT OF CHAPTER 7

No, stop that-- she had video evidence of her crimes, since she made the videos as part of his humiliation. That's not just assault, that's CP. Prosecution would be trivially easy, especially at the start of this story, not least of all because she'd probably have just accepted it as her comeuppance by chapter 1. Literally, the only justification you can give is the meta-explanation of "the police in manga are generally only useful inasmuch as they're an obstacle for the protagonist".

It is not a "meta manga" reason. It's a "meta Japanese Society" reason. It was not codified into law that males could even be sexual assault victims up until 2017! That is the society they pressumedly are in. There's already a slight stigma in the west about female sexual assault victims. There is also a bigger stigma in Japan. How less understanding do you think a society that did not recognise male victims up until 8 years ago would be?

For one thing, chapter 15.1's title is "It's not like I wanna kill myself over my suffering", so that's not correct.

That title is him HEAVILY implying he wanted to die JUST TO HURT HER not because he was being bullied currently.

Second: suicide was not the original plan, which is why revenge is talked about in every chapter title with no reference to suicide until chapter 13, titled "I wonder whether you'd suffer more if I died". In fact, we don't even know what the plan originally was beyond him betraying her after he sufficiently ingratiated himself with her. Suicide became the plan after he got the shoes beat off him by the girl's bullies, and he saw how distraught she was because he got A) bullied B) because of her. Then he figured, "I can make her feel bad by killing myself!"

His current bullying had nothing to do with his suicidal thoughts. As YOU POINTED OUT with chapter 15.1's title "It's not like I wanna kill myself over my suffering". It is IMPLIED that he always wantef to kill himself, it is just that his plans were rushed forward due to him getting bullied and how that affected her.

But how did he plan to enjoy his revenge after making himself dead as hell?

I'm not saying he has to forgive her-- I'm not even saying he shouldn't have a revenge plot. But he's already dissimulated that forgiveness with someone that's incessantly remorseful for her past actions, and has granted her companionship and dependency on top of that. He has willingly and actively associated, and spent time on, and taken out to dates, this woman who sexually assaulted and humiliated him. This presumably has caused him continued anguish, except this time, he's proactively invited that anguish onto himself.

This is just inefficient. Honestly-- if he didn't make the snap decision to kill himself after getting put in a spin cycle, he'd be having consensual procreative sex for the sake of his revenge. The guy really does feel that absurd.

Kid should have just got a gun-- or shot her with a kyuudou arrow, or something, since it'd be difficult to get a gun in Japan.

The MC is implied to be weak. There isn't much he could do to attack her physically unless he tried the knife method. Arrows require a lot of physical strength. A gun is black market and thus is very hard to access for the common student. The only real thing a guy like him could even do was to hurt her emotionally, which is something we see him laying the groundwork for.

 

[Eighty-six]

And my point is that he WOULD NOT FORGIVE HER after her spending ONLY TWO DAYS with him trying to cheer him up.

That's besides the point-- he already spent who knows how long pretending he already did, during which she's constantly expressed her contrition.

Yes saving his life after HE WANTED TO DIE!

Again, the chapter titles indicate he doesn't actually want to die on account of his suffering.

He HAD revenge plans

And given his setup, they were stupid-ass revenge plans. These revenge plans are pre-approved for disability.

It was not codified into law that males could even be sexual assault victims up until 2017!

I'm pretty sure it was "rape" specifically, and that aside, she produced CP. Even if that was specifically the case, that just means that they could hit her with a bunch of other statutes that collectively constitute sexual assault-- not that female-on-male sex offenders and rapists get a free walk.

That title is him HEAVILY implying he wanted to die JUST TO HURT HER not because he was being bullied currently.

...no, the title "I wonder whether you'd suffer more if I died" implies that. The title "It's not like I wanna kill myself over my suffering" explicitly expresses that he wasn't suicidal at all, let alone at the start of the story.

As YOU POINTED OUT with chapter 15.1's title "It's not like I wanna kill myself over my suffering". It is IMPLIED that he always wantef to kill himself

...pardon?

Are you not seeing the "not"? Or the "over my suffering"?

The MC is implied to be weak. There isn't much he could do to attack her physically unless he tried the knife method. Arrows require a lot of physical strength. A gun is black market and thus is very hard to access for the common student. The only real thing a guy like him could even do was to hurt her emotionally, which is something we see him laying the groundwork for.

Or just join in the bullying she was already enduring, because he's clearly revenge-challenged and can't be trusted to make rational and efficient revenge plans.