Kinnikuman - Vol. 88 Ch. 862 - Act 475: Thank You Pessimiman!

[MangaDex]

 

[spectralSpices]

Man, I appreciate all the updates, I just wish they weren't so scattershot!

 

[SilentStorm]

Don't know how i feel, Chloe is a Kinnikuman Nisei thing but it feels the setting has gone beyond what that series had stated about the past and doesn't really gel with it, to a point where i just took this as a separate timeline, but description saying this is how Chloe started in these chapters makes it seem like that isn't the case.

In which case, more retcons considering Nisei.

 

[SuguruB]

Thanks a lot for the big dose of Kinniku-time!

 

[Katatonia]

Thanks a lot for the big dose of Kinniku-time!

You're welcome, I'm happy you're all enjoying the releases!

 

[Katatonia]

Man, I appreciate all the updates, I just wish they weren't so scattershot!

Firstly, I'm glad you appreciate the work we've put into this, but what do you mean by 'Scattershot'? I have no idea what that means. Since I came back to this series, everyone knows that I release it in large volumes whenever I can. There were many delays to factor in, and I had a lot of professional work as well. However, I have translated every single chapter in this run, from when I started this arc the current one out. So I'm all caught up now, but editing and quality checking this takes time. I'm also the one who quality checks my own work. So that also takes a few to make sure the release is pretty polished.

Besides that, my crew is very small, and we all do our own thing out of this. On top of that, this site was being targeted, and I thought about never posting here again because it's probably going to shut down soon. To be honest, I was just going to post all the other stuff I work on, including this, on my own personal Discord server for people to download. This is also because, after that drought, it's great that this series has a lot of love and people working on it.

I love that, but the work that has been done since I stopped is either mediocre or completely machine translated. I'd rather people didn't release poor quality work like that than release anything at all. It's an insult to the series and its fans. And this sickest part about all of this is that they didn't even try, like you can legit tell when someone tries. And in this case the wording has absolutely no soul or anything, it's all dead/lifeless text and almost entirely machine translated.

 

[Katatonia]

Don't know how i feel, Chloe is a Kinnikuman Nisei thing but it feels the setting has gone beyond what that series had stated about the past and doesn't really gel with it, to a point where i just took this as a separate timeline, but description saying this is how Chloe started in these chapters makes it seem like that isn't the case.

In which case, more retcons considering Nisei.

I think the main series will eventually tie with Ultimate Tag at some point. It really feels like that's going to happen. it also has elements in common with Nisei, too. Since Chloe is essentially from Nisei, but his story has already been told. I translated that ages ago when I worked on Volume 37 of this series with my "old group". This time around, I guess Yudetamago probably wanted to flesh out Chloe a little more, even though he literally stole a soldier's uniform to infiltrate the base and confront Pessimiman, lol. Shockingly enough, it doesn't go any further than that. Maybe that's all Yude had to say for now.

 

[jawnchiller]

Thanks for all your hard work, MfM! 🔥🔥🔥

 

[spectralSpices]

Firstly, I'm glad you appreciate the work we've put into this, but what do you mean by 'Scattershot'? I have no idea what that means. Since I came back to this series, everyone knows that I release it in large volumes whenever I can. There were many delays to factor in, and I had a lot of professional work as well. However, I have translated every single chapter in this run, from when I started this arc the current one out. So I'm all caught up now, but editing and quality checking this takes time. I'm also the one who quality checks my own work. So that also takes a few to make sure the release is pretty polished.

Besides that, my crew is very small, and we all do our own thing out of this. On top of that, this site was being targeted, and I thought about never posting here again because it's probably going to shut down soon. To be honest, I was just going to post all the other stuff I work on, including this, on my own personal Discord server for people to download. This is also because, after that drought, it's great that this series has a lot of love and people working on it.

I love that, but the work that has been done since I stopped is either mediocre or completely machine translated. I'd rather people didn't release poor quality work like that than release anything at all. It's an insult to the series and its fans. And this sickest part about all of this is that they didn't even try, like you can legit tell when someone tries. And in this case the wording has absolutely no soul or anything, it's all dead/lifeless text and almost entirely machine translated.

Oh, it's not any problem with you or your crew, I meant the way that a bunch of groups have been translating the chapters seemingly at random. For a while, there was a group translating thirty or so chapters ahead of where the last one was!

 

[Katatonia]

Yeah, don't worry about him, he's a one man crew. I've already translated every single chapter up to the current one, and I plan to release all of them fairly soon. If you want updates on what I'm doing, join my Discord server, the links on the credits page. As for the other people doing this series, not to say I'm the best, but I do love this series a lot. And I put a lot of love and care into each release to make sure that everyone reading it can re-read it and enjoy it no matter how many times they go through an entire volume or a single chapter. However, I don't approve of groups that do speedy Google translated subpar work that's being thrown out just to be thrown out for the sake of doing a series. I'd rather they fuck off somewhere else, cause if that's really the shit they wanna present to people, which is literally shit, it's not good enough and they should probably find something else to do.

Almost 25 years ago when I started this series with my old buddy, and going into my older group, I set a very high standard of quality for Kinnikuman, no one I can see can match my quality of translation work to how much life and characterization I put into it. And I will say this, just because someone is a fan of a series, doesn't mean they can actually translate that series. Most "fan translator's" are entirely shit. They're all Google translator's for the most part or extreme clout chasers. Like that one Spanish crew who used to drop Kinnikuman lol. That was a fucking embarrassment. You know, international groups actually machine translate and charge people for that garbage? I know so many groups who do that. It's pretty disgusting, though, I will say, I don't hate this site, but I hate what this site's become.

They allow any dickhead with no talent to upload work that's either been plagiarized or machine translated. And the quality of work being presented on most of all these series now, is entirely questionable or just purely shit. I will say this is probably one of the better sites in recent years, but at the same time, because of them allowing so many awful people release fake releases and machine translated garbage, and speed translating current works being published by mainstream publishers and not lock out certain series, they almost got shutdown for being stupid. And most of these groups have absolutely no respect for anyone, or any company. They're literally charging fans top dollar to read some of the most badly edited and machine translated work ever, and a lot of them get away with it because they're on this platform.

 

[MrGrem]

Yeah, don't worry about him, he's a one man crew. I've already translated every single chapter up to the current one, and I plan to release all of them fairly soon. If you want updates on what I'm doing, join my Discord server, the links on the credits page. As for the other people doing this series, not to say I'm the best, but I do love this series a lot. And I put a lot of love and care into each release to make sure that everyone reading it can re-read it and enjoy it no matter how many times they go through an entire volume or a single chapter. However, I don't approve of groups that do speedy Google translated subpar work that's being thrown out just to be thrown out for the sake of doing a series. I'd rather they fuck off somewhere else, cause if that's really the shit they wanna present to people, which is literally shit, it's not good enough and they should probably find something else to do.

Almost 25 years ago when I started this series with my old buddy, and going into my older group, I set a very high standard of quality for Kinnikuman, no one I can see can match my quality of translation work to how much life and characterization I put into it. And I will say this, just because someone is a fan of a series, doesn't mean they can actually translate that series. Most "fan translator's" are entirely shit. They're all Google translator's for the most part or extreme clout chasers. Like that one Spanish crew who used to drop Kinnikuman lol. That was a fucking embarrassment. You know, international groups actually machine translate and charge people for that garbage? I know so many groups who do that. It's pretty disgusting, though, I will say, I don't hate this site, but I hate what this site's become.

They allow any dickhead with no talent to upload work that's either been plagiarized or machine translated. And the quality of work being presented on most of all these series now, is entirely questionable or just purely shit. I will say this is probably one of the better sites in recent years, but at the same time, because of them allowing so many awful people release fake releases and machine translated garbage, and speed translating current works being published by mainstream publishers and not lock out certain series, they almost got shutdown for being stupid. And most of these groups have absolutely no respect for anyone, or any company. They're literally charging fans top dollar to read some of the most badly edited and machine translated work ever, and a lot of them get away with it because they're on this platform.

Yeah you could definitely use the time to actually work on the series than actively stalk/harrass others who are working on the series through DMs for months for not collabing with you.

The only reason those "supbar" scans exist because there's lack of supply for the series, not everyone willing to wait months, that how things go whether we like it or not.

At one paragraph, you say "I'm not the best" but go on how much you actually are better than everyone else on the scene. let alone what you said to everyone else behind the scenes. shifting attention away from your slow progress and bad communication skills to those "speedy scanners" who don't actually care for the series is bad look regardless, You can always update people better than behind your discord circle where very few will be aware the series is actively being worked on.

MangaDex is good place that allows many groups to compete, They won't leave a series to be horded by someone sitting by, You do put alot of effort, but that effort isn't used properly.

Those SFXs look terrible, either have the editor clean the originals out or add small text next to the originals like what Viz does often.

There's having reasonable and geniuene concerns regarding quality of other groups, and there's getting butthurt that others are actively working on series beside your group, grow a spine and accept that how things go.


proper criticism works better than "speedy scans" or whatever.

 

[codetaku]

At one paragraph, you say "I'm not the best" but go on how much you actually are better than everyone else on the scene.

Is English not your first language? What he said was "not to say I'm the best, but" which is a saying that generally means "most people agree I'm the best, and here's why"

Very weird for you to base a large chunk of your rant on not understanding that phrase

 

[Katatonia]

Is English not your first language? What he said was "not to say I'm the best, but" which is a saying that generally means "most people agree I'm the best, and here's why"

Very weird for you to base a large chunk of your rant on not understanding that phrase

First of all, Codetaku. I'm replying to this thread because I saw your message about the last chapter of the new volume. Thank you for the kind words. I'm happy you enjoyed the volume we put out. It took a while to edit, but overall, it turned out really well. For the record, I'm being honest when I say that I'm tired of being harassed. I literally translate the chapters as they're released. It just takes time for editing since my editor is busy in real life. In case anyone was wondering, that's why it took us a while to release this new volume.

On a side note, I asked Grem to work with me to make the editing process more streamlined. that's because we've known each other for quite a while. However, our relationship has never really been good. We had a mutual interest, but I wouldn't say we're actually friends. It's all good though. I apologized for whatever happened between us in the past because, quite frankly, it was pretty fucked up on both sides. I saw him post the message you just replied to the day he posted it, but I didn't feel like replying. I'm starting to think he holds grudges and can't let things go. It's actually really sad because he tells me that I hold chapters hostage on my computer. Yet he refuses to work with me to release them.

Years ago, my ex-partner, SystematicChaos, told me, "Sometimes, you have to work with people you don't like so you can continue to put stuff out." Even though my past with Hokuto no Gun is highly controversial, people will never know the truth because Chaos himself won't admit what really happened between us. He knows that if he does, everything he's "worked so hard" to protect will eventually come crashing down. I'm considering telling the truth about what happened so I can put an end to all this bullshit. After 11 years of him running me down, I'm tired. But he has a point because I've worked with people I despise just to release something.

I put my personal feelings aside and said, "Fuck it. I'll do it so that people who enjoy reading this series can actually read it." Regarding Grem, unlike me, he's unable to put his differences aside. Also, no, he's not American. He's obviously Muslim and is probably from Algeria, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, or somewhere like that. I'll give him credit; he's a good editor. But he lacks people skills and understanding of the English language. That's why we've had a rocky relationship; we've never seen eye-to-eye because I speak fluent English and he speaks broken English. That's not to put him down; he just doesn't have adequate English skills to understand what people are saying.

 

[MrGrem]

On a side note, I asked Grem to work with me to make the editing process more streamlined. that's because we've known each other for quite a while. However, our relationship has never really been good. We had a mutual interest, but I wouldn't say we're actually friends. It's all good though. I apologized for whatever happened between us in the past because, quite frankly, it was pretty fucked up on both sides.

First off, We never had any relationship, You contacted me and tried to lie a lot about my currect and former friends to cause infighting in the community, When I confonted you about this, you admited you lied and apologize and I accepted it
At that moment I wanted nothing to do with you, But I still wished you and your group the best going forward, yet you still kept trying to stalk me and my friends. wanting to form a friendship when I clearly expresed no interest to do so. next you started fetching information regarding my personal life that has nothing to do with anything.

There's no 'both sides', There's you being toxic person, and me wanting nothing to do with you. You started spewing mostly incorrect information regarding my personal life that you scounted from your lurkers who acted friendly towards me.

It's actually really sad because he tells me that I hold chapters hostage on my computer. Yet he refuses to work with me to release them.

Years ago, my ex-partner, SystematicChaos, told me, "Sometimes, you have to work with people you don't like so you can continue to put stuff out." Even though my past with Hokuto no Gun is highly controversial, people will never know the truth because Chaos himself won't admit what really happened between us. He knows that if he does, everything he's "worked so hard" to protect will eventually come crashing down. I'm considering telling the truth about what happened so I can put an end to all this bullshit. After 11 years of him running me down, I'm tired. But he has a point because I've worked with people I despise just to release something.

We don't owe each other anything, Differents story if we were working together professionally on same publisher but we're not, we're fans working out of interest, It's not my responsibility for your group's slow pace, have bit more responsibility ffs. Don't sit on scans for long periods and get butthurt when some rando decideds to swoop in and drops sup bar scans. whatever happened between you and HnG members is non my concern, nor anyone. I'm happy the series is still getting scans, I put that above whatever I feel about you or anyone else for that matter, we all are fair game in this.

There are no personal grudges here. The fact you're working on 2011 actually makes me glad the series isn't dead, But sharing some criticisms on my end isn't "grudge", it's me wanting your group to do better, and you at some extent. Acting like scarecrow for this manga actually scared off many people who told me their side of things, Me, wanting what's best for the series is my end goal. Also responding to me months later is funny, yet I'm the one with grudges, gee..

I put my personal feelings aside and said, "Fuck it. I'll do it so that people who enjoy reading this series can actually read it." Regarding Grem, unlike me, he's unable to put his differences aside. Also, no, he's not American. He's obviously Muslim and is probably from Algeria, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, or somewhere like that. I'll give him credit; he's a good editor. But he lacks people skills and understanding of the English language. That's why we've had a rocky relationship; we've never seen eye-to-eye because I speak fluent English and he speaks broken English. That's not to put him down; he just doesn't have adequate English skills to understand what people are saying.

LMAO! really, pulling "miscommunication" card here... Even with my broken English, we perfectly communicated with each other fine for long period. I never claimed to be proficient English speaker, someone else has that task in my group. The "He's obviously a Muslim" is unnecessary comment but speaks to the type of a person you are, Didn't Jesus teach us to "spread love to all"? you cleary speaking here from personal spite, The fact you responded months later support my point yet you didn't bother to address much regarding your views towards other groups/scanlators or the criticisms towards your work. My post months ago intended to burn any semblance of a bridge you imagined we had, and to call you out for hording the series and attacking others through socials DMs.

I'm aware what you say privately regarding me, (hint: many former editors reached out) but I frankly don't care. I'm open to be shittalk and judged for my behavior fine enough. It's the internet. But spreading lies and personal info is another thing I won't stand for, and I suggest you stop publically speculating my ethnicity and where I live. It's a bad look for you.

With that all being said, The batch been good. I don't have that much issue with the work being done for the scans, Just please be faster than season 3.

 

[MrGrem]

Is English not your first language? What he said was "not to say I'm the best, but" which is a saying that generally means "most people agree I'm the best, and here's why"

Very weird for you to base a large chunk of your rant on not understanding that phrase

Cool, I got D on English, Care to address the rest?

When he says that and after literally says Almost 25 years ago when I started this series with my old buddy, and going into my older group, I set a very high standard of quality for Kinnikuman, no one I can see can match my quality of translation work to how much life and characterization I put into it. And I will say this, just because someone is a fan of a series, doesn't mean they can actually translate that series."

That's generally proping yourself up above anyone else and being an annoying Gatekeeper, No MangaDex is good because it's welcoming space, Not every gonna be great, but that's what comment section for, If you thought the scans are shit, compete in the market instead of monopilizing it, Prove you can get the work right, Don't cry about it like the community owes you something.

 

[Katatonia]

You know, Grem. I don't like answering you because you're fake—like, extremely fake. When we speak, I get nervous and feel sick to my stomach like I'm about to throw up. You're the third person to have this effect on me. Honestly, I believe your spirit is completely stagnant. If you can even be called a human being, because I can feel the hatred and malice in your words. And it's funny you project that on me, when that's exactly how you are. On top of that, your entire tirade is riddled with more holes than a block of Swiss cheese. Man, get a grip. It's also funny that you brought up me gatekeeping Kinnikuman lol. Why does everyone think I'm gatekeeping it? I mean, sure, I was one of the original guys who introduced this series, and I can say that because it's true. I've been doing this stuff longer than anyone else involved. It's a literal fact, so stop trying to go over my head. And stop accusing me of gatekeeping when I'm clearly not.

Answer me this: Why would I gatekeep something when, even back in the day when I worked on it, I had to drop it to do professional work and let my old friend Ataru take over? If I wanted to, I could have taken it back, done it, and pushed him aside. I didn't because he's a very close friend of mine. I respect him a lot. Hell, I even proofread a lot of it for him. Do you know what your problem is, Grem? Besides your broken English, you don't have a clear understanding, and you admit that you have people who understand English better than you. That's just funny and sad to me lol. How do you work on English texts if you can't speak or understand them? You're a nice editor, and I've said as much every time I've mentioned you, but that's just stupid. I've got a better suggestion: Instead of being a whiny little asshole and writing me love letters because I broke your widdle heart, why don't you go back to school and take some proper English courses? Then you can learn how to understand someone better and properly insult me.

You also mentioned me stalking you. That's really funny too. I don't stalk anyone; I don't think like that. In fact, your friends tell me everything about you. I think you forget that I'm one of the most respected and well-known people in this community, and eventually, people will tell me everything. Even if you whisper about me, I'll find out. So no, I don't stalk people. I have people, in your case, who know you and tell me everything. If you have a problem with that, talk to your friends because they're the ones who gave you up. On top of all this, you're playing checkers with a guy who plays chess. You lied to everyone, and I'm going to expose you.

During one of our last conversations, you asked me where I was in Kinnikuman. I told you that I was two chapters away from finishing it. You then told Hezi where I was in the series and told him to continue translating from where I left off. While I respect that you didn't touch the other stuff I did previously, it would have been better if he hadn't touched it at all because, from where I left off to where it is now, it's a broken, convoluted mess. Your greed to read this series has dis-serviced all the fans reading it. You're a dumbass. Seriously, I have no idea why you would jump from one place to the next when there was almost a 50-chapter gap between. You didn't have to do that, you made someone waste his time and his efforts on something that was eventually going to be done. It's like you intentionally made double work, if you wanted to work on this series so badly, you could've just asked me and I would've gladly worked with you. But you have too much pride, I know.

And you have the nerve to lecture me about translators and how they work? Half of these so-called "translators" don't even watch wrestling. They just read the manga. I legitimately watch all wrestling and have been my entire life. I was a national high school wrestling champion in freestyle, and then I transitioned into MMA. Trust me, most of these fools wouldn't know a wrist lock from a wristwatch. Do you even understand how I translate Kinnikuman? I don't read it like a manga; I read it like a wrestling show. I added so much terminology, and I changed so many things around to make it sound like a real American wrestling show. No one I know could do it the way I do. It's one of a kind. I'm a professional translator because I can capture the essence of everything I work on. I breathe life into my work, giving it personality and the proper love and care to make the series a million times better. You keep bringing people to work on this series to spite me, and put it in my face like I'm gatekeeping, and you know it.

You brought so many people to translate this, who couldn't capture the essence of the series, and then you insulted me back and forth before praising my work. It's okay if you don't like me; I don't care either way. Honestly, I think you're a horrible, greedy, resentful asshole. But I respect the work you produce. As I said in the previous message, we can hate each other's guts and still produce great work together. Though, I don't hate you even in the slightest, I think you're a fool. But I don't hate you, hate's too strong of a word to use against anyone. However, your pride won't allow you to do that. As far as gatekeeping anything lol. Pluto was a gatekeeper. Holy shit, was he a gatekeeper. He said I was his biggest influence for working on Kinnikuman, and then he turned into a monster. He attacked everyone who touched Kinnikuman or its side series. He cursed fans, talked shit about people's personal lives, laughed when people's families died, wished death on fans and people, and wished death on himself. This guy was a literal human time bomb waiting to explode. I actually thought it was funny because there was a time when I wanted to rip on everyone, but I never did. Then, when he did, I was like, "Damn, that's self-destructive."

Do you want to know what Mr. Grem did to poor old Pluto before he walked out and vanished? He didn't try to help or console him. He didn't even try to talk to him and make things better. He forced Pluto, his friend, to keep translating Kinnikuman when he knew Pluto was in a horrible place. Why do I know this? I spoke with Pluto one last time before he disappeared completely. He wanted to kill himself because he was unhappy with his life, the people he called "friends", and the overall toll it all took on him. He couldn't handle the pressure of translating a manga that was too big for him. With everything else in his life, it forced him to almost kill himself. I forgave Pluto for everything he said about me, my friends, and my family. We reconciled. I also apologized for everything I said about him as well. Most people don't know this happened because it was a personal matter between us. In that short time, I tried to be there for him. But it was too late to help him. He'd had enough and left. I didn't do what I did out of hate, malice, or spite. I genuinely wanted to help him and be there for him. I told him that I had found peace through Jesus Christ, but he said that he didn't know if he deserved His love. A lot happened, and all I can say is that I wish Pluto only the best in whatever he's doing. And I can only hope that he's safe and at peace.

 

[Katatonia]

"You contacted me and tried to lie a lot about my currect and former friends to cause infighting in the community, When I confonted you about this, you admited you lied and apologize and I accepted it"

First of all, stop lying. This never happened. I confronted you directly about how you treated Pluto. It pissed me off. You know you used him and then tried to defend yourself by calling him your friend when you damn well know you used him. As for me, I apologized for being an asshole towards you. I was harsh because of how you treated Pluto. He might have been a reckless monster, but he was still a human being. While it's true that he and I were never friends and only worked together briefly, we knew each other for a very long time. I think I would know when someone's getting used. It wasn't hard to tell when he told me that no one cared and that they only wanted work from him. You were the only person working with him by that time. You used him, and he'd had enough. As for causing problems in the community, I'm not part of any community. I just worry about my crew and the people who run with me. And people know I don't mess with the Kinnikuman community, cause it's completely toxic.

 

[MrGrem]

You know, Grem. I don't like answering you because you're fake—like, extremely fake. When we speak, I get nervous and feel sick to my stomach like I'm about to throw up.

Everyone keeps saying the same when it comes to you, The fact you act nice towards them then treat them like crap for no reason if they don't bend over you, you even insulted someone for not being religious. You're a low life who told me that pluto laughed at your dead parent, When I confronted you, You admitted you lied because you had personal vendetta.

People already filled me on your behaviour and my experience with you solidified that you have no real empathy for anyone, The fact that you won't engage my points directly and would rather attack my character baselessly shows here that you have no leg, you're two faced scum who would attack anyone for not being part of your circle.

You're the third person to have this effect on me. Honestly, I believe your spirit is completely stagnant. If you can even be called a human being.

The best way to cope with your insecurities is to demonaize me by calling me "Muslim" or implying that I'm sub-human. That isn't a way for an Adult to behave, but I came to only expect toddler behaviour from you. I'm human being who tried to have normal conversations with you and be straight, but nothing worked. You're beyond my help.

Why does everyone think I'm gatekeeping it? I mean, sure, I was one of the original guys who introduced this series, and I can say that because it's true. I've been doing this stuff longer than anyone else involved. It's a literal fact, so stop trying to go over my head. And stop accusing me of gatekeeping when I'm clearly not.

Answer me this: Why would I gatekeep something when, even back in the day when I worked on it, I had to drop it to do professional work and let my old friend Ataru take over? If I wanted to, I could have taken it back, done it, and pushed him aside. I didn't because he's a very close friend of mine. I respect him a lot. Hell, I even proofread a lot of it for him.

You're always complaining about other "speed scanners" and translators publicly, and attack them through DMs privately ( like hens, me, pluto, and Zturtle) you being an early adopter gives you no authority over whoever uploads here. You expressed to me that you're only doing this because you're "perfectionist", But you're just stalking others and trying to buy information, what happened to your former editors? lol

Do you know what your problem is, Grem? Besides your broken English, you don't have a clear understanding, and you admit that you have people who understand English better than you. That's just funny and sad to me lol. How do you work on English texts if you can't speak or understand them? You're a nice editor, and I've said as much every time I've mentioned you, but that's just stupid. I've got a better suggestion: Instead of being a whiny little asshole and writing me love letters because I broke your widdle heart, why don't you go back to school and take some proper English courses? Then you can learn how to understand someone better and properly insult me.

You have no problem communicating with me for over 3 years lol. You just actively refuse to engage my points in good faith, and rather attack my character. You can clearly see that when it comes to professional work, I have someone else proofreads for that because English isn't my first Language. I don't wanna take advices from a NEET middle aged man who failed at school himself.

During one of our last conversations, you asked me where I was in Kinnikuman. I told you that I was two chapters away from finishing it. You then told Hezi where I was in the series and told him to continue translating from where I left off. While I respect that you didn't touch the other stuff I did previously, it would have been better if he hadn't touched it at all because, from where I left off to where it is now, it's a broken, convoluted mess. Your greed to read this series has dis-serviced all the fans reading it. You're a dumbass. Seriously, I have no idea why you would jump from one place to the next when there was almost a 50-chapter gap between. You didn't have to do that, you made someone waste his time and his efforts on something that was eventually going to be done. It's like you intentionally made double work, if you wanted to work on this series so badly, you could've just asked me and I would've gladly worked with you. But you have too much pride, I know.

You know, you don't have much evidence for this, if me saying to him in group chat that "It would be nice if someone continued the series" is me directing telling him to get involved, then you're stupid. He's an adult who can make decisions on his own, I actually encouraged him early on NOT to get involved because you're handling it, But you're too inept that you ended up creating large gaps and it's harder for me to persuade Hens or anyone else to do otherwise.

And you have the nerve to lecture me about translators and how they work? Half of these so-called "translators" don't even watch wrestling. They just read the manga. I legitimately watch all wrestling and have been my entire life. I was a national high school wrestling champion in freestyle, and then I transitioned into MMA. Trust me, most of these fools wouldn't know a wrist lock from a wristwatch. Do you even understand how I translate Kinnikuman? I don't read it like a manga; I read it like a wrestling show. I added so much terminology, and I changed so many things around to make it sound like a real American wrestling show.

Yes, I can. Everyone can. You're not god, you're an jobless idiot who rants about wrestling manga and shits like rest of us.

No one I know could do it the way I do. It's one of a kind. I'm a professional translator because I can capture the essence of everything I work on. I breathe life into my work, giving it personality and the proper love and care to make the series a million times better. You keep bringing people to work on this series to spite me, and put it in my face like I'm gatekeeping, and you know it.

Source? Trust me bro. Kata, let me level with you, people don't care who translates as long it's comprehensible English. The only once that do are we, The scanlators. Sure your work is great. But you're really bad manager based on how many editors dropped you. You really should show bit more empathy and understanding with others. Not saying this out of morality, but in professional circles. You must behave well.

Kinniikuman is objectively a Manga. wether you wanna redifine it whatever you want is none of my concern. We all approach as a Manga. Stop trying to hype yourself man.

You brought so many people to translate this, who couldn't capture the essence of the series, and then you insulted me back and forth before praising my work.

I didn't insult you all that much in my original post, I was calling out your behaviour. No, I didn't "bring anyone" and you know it. You talked with many of them. I've my own group if I wanted something done, Genius. I also don't relay on others because the translations would be inconsistent in the long term. That's why I'm letting you parade 2011 for now. I know it's in good hands even if the hands smell like bad burritos.

We humans have this thing we call "Seprating the art from the artist" I can appreciate the work being done by your group, But at the same time, I still don't like you as a person. I'm not spiteful person like you are, Kata. I can look passed my biases sometimes.

As I said in the previous message, we can hate each other's guts and still produce great work together. Though, I don't hate you even in the slightest, I think you're a fool. But I don't hate you, hate's too strong of a word to use against anyone. However, your pride won't allow you to do that. As far as gatekeeping anything lol.

I have our DMs, I have testimonies regarding the stuff you say about people behind the scenes, How you feel regarding non-Christians, In your original post, you literally pointed out that I'm a "Muslim". stop trying to play moral high ground when you're actively insulting me throughout this post.

Do you want to know what Mr. Grem did to poor old Pluto before he walked out and vanished? He didn't try to help or console him. He didn't even try to talk to him and make things better. He forced Pluto, his friend, to keep translating Kinnikuman when he knew Pluto was in a horrible place. Why do I know this?

You literally have no basis for this lol. You don't know what happened between us or in the server. You said before that Pluto was the one gatekeeping everyone and being toxic. NOW I'M THE ONE WHO FORCED HIM poor Pluto, and he didn't have choice as group's leader? lol. I literally told you this way back: At least Keep one villain for your story. even Kishimoto would laugh at you.

Most people don't know this happened because it was a personal matter between us.

At least afford me the same charitability, after all, You don't hate me, right?

I also apologized for everything I said about him as well.

First of all, stop lying. This never happened.

I confronted you directly about how you treated Pluto. It pissed me off. You know you used him and then tried to defend yourself by calling him your friend when you damn well know you used him. As for me, I apologized for being an asshole towards you. I was harsh because of how you treated Pluto.

You gonna notice KATA here insisting on "apologizing" but never specifying on what exactly he's apoligizing for, so I'll help out: He stalked my DMs for 3 years insisting we should work for a "common goal", but I refused many times. Sent people to ask me weird questions regarding my race, Tried to alienate my friends and Mutuals into thinking I'm manipulating them. Insisting that the bad scans only exists because I, somehow keep bringing people in the scene, Instead of admitting that perhaps the large gaps, and You only updating your scanlation progress to your Discord server, Rather then public socials might pushed others to take matter into their own hands. Showing little humility is good thing.

Throughout your posts, You mainly attacked my character, instead of addressing much of my points. You proved yourself to be uncharatable person who refuses to accepts any responsibility for the current state of things even when you had months to formulate a response. If wanna keep this yard fight game going, Then I'm out.

If anyone wants further clarifications, I'm happy to provide them.

 

[Katatonia]

What does all this prove, really? That airing personal conversations and all this ridiculousness is okay? It doesn't prove anything. Stop saying that I stalked you. I never did. You must've forgotten that we were friends with the same people. Those same people introduced us. One of those people even worked with me on Kinnikuman, and you know it. As for people leaving, it wasn't because of a disagreement over manga. I just didn't want to work with them anymore because they were all unreliable. 3Pumpkins, Baid Mand, or whatever he wants to call himself, was legitimately crazy. He was only nice when I worked on Kinnikuman. Even then, he couldn't get the work done. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, though, and still worked with him even when he held up most of our projects.

In all seriousness, he left me hanging for almost half a year, came back acting cool, and I forgave him. Then he complained about being in pain, so I told him to ask Jesus Christ for help. For saying that, he mocked me. He changed who he was. He became really bad with me. He said I was sick and needed help. He said Jesus Christ was nothing more than a fucking man and that if he wanted to see him, he should toast bread until Jesus appears on a slice. He really said all of this, and I won't tolerate it from anyone. It's extremely disrespectful. I tried to help him, and he mocked Jesus Christ. So, fuck him. I dropped him. He's crazy and hateful. He's basically a dying cripple; his body's broken, yet he'd rather suffer in pain than ask his God for help. He's a goddamned fool.

As for buying information lol. Really now? Man, you're an idiot. You are truly, and I mean truly, stupid. You're so hateful that even my friends tell me you hate them. Just for being open-minded and expressing how they truly feel on the server. You're literally human excrement. Calling you shit is an insult to shit; you're lower than shit. You think you're smart, right? Thinking you can tell people what to do on a whim. You act like you can just waltz in, say what you want, talk how you want, and act how you want. Man, you're nothing more than an insect under my foot. Whether you like it or not—or anyone else for that matter—I am one of the most respected people in this scene. I don't pay people for information. Why would I? People tell me everything. I'm one of the oldest people here, and I'm one of its original founders. People acknowledge and respect that a lot and tell me everything. It's always been this way.

Do you really think I have time to find people and do all this stuff? Half the time, I'm busy taking care of my mother and doing my professional work. I only talk to a few people who are close to me. Besides, I don't care what anyone does. I couldn't care less if you're alive, dying, or hanging from a tree. Your life doesn't concern me. But if you talk about me and mention my name, even in the slightest, I'll know. One thing you need to do is stop twisting the narrative of what happened. Pluto said all those things, and I never had a vendetta against anyone. I was hurt by what he said, and he didn't care. At one point, he was snooping around for my personal information. He was a whack job. It's like I've been saying for years. Kinnikuman is a cursed series; it does these things to people who touch it. It destroys friendships and makes hell for others. It's totally cursed.

As far as Pluto goes, I knew him way before you were even a thing. You were nothing; just a nobody kicking stones in a sandlot. Everyone knew Pluto was disrespectful and crazy. It's all over the internet about how badly he behaved towards others. He basically had a public meltdown. While I feel bad for him, you keep protecting the guilty. You know he's guilty of doing bad things, not only to me but also to many groups, including the Machineguns. He drove Terry to insanity with how he handled that situation. But don't forget that you used him for translations. You can flip the narrative as many times as you want, but you used him until he was of no further use to you, and then you discarded him like trash. You have the nerve to call him your friend? Pfft, okay donkey. Go beg God for forgiveness for using and abusing your so-called friend.

Regarding my translation skills and my approach to work: I graduated from school and college with the highest honors. In elementary school, I took high school classes because I was so smart. In middle school, I took college courses. In high school, I took entrance exams to get into college and earn my master's degree. I am extremely intelligent. I have loved wrestling since I was a little kid. I became a wrestler in school and loved to fight. I won all my fights. I transitioned into MMA from wrestling as a teenager. Hell, I even had my own hardcore band in high school, and I was the lead guitarist. Do you think I became a translator because I was lucky? No, I became a translator because I could, and because I wanted to be the best. No one can match me. The only person I know who can is my ex-partner, SystematicChaos, and he knows it. Neither of us is better than the other. I might have more knowledge than he does in certain areas and do things differently, as he would on his own side, but we're very evenly matched. If you don't believe me, read any chapter he's translated and compare it to something I've translated. The flow and style are almost identical; you'd think it was the same person translating them. He can deny this all he wants and try to bury me, like he always does, but those are legitimate facts. We have similar knowledge in Japanese. People tend to forget we worked closely with each other for over 10 years.

Also, I don't care if you're a Muslim. I couldn't care less. You could be from Mars, and I still wouldn't care. Stop using your religion as a way to prove that someone hates you. Stop calling yourself subhuman; that's all on you. As I said before, you created your own stereotype, and you're continuing to make a fool out of yourself. You tell me you can look past everything between us, yet you still refuse to work with me. It's like a merry-go-round with you, and I really had enough of this ride. Honestly, this is all a joke to me. I don't even care anymore. You can show all the documentation and proof you want. I just don't care. You might take this whole thing seriously, but I don't. I'm just having fun going back and forth with you. I don't take you seriously at all. I told you what I had to, expressed how I felt, and pretty much told you what it is and what it's going to be. I'm done wasting my time on you. I've got better things to worry about, donkey.