Casual chatting thread

[hazzack]

I'll try drying and salting next

try salting, drying, AND hanging so you'll have more surface area on the corpse which promotes even dryness

 

[MinecraftStoryModeLover]

Sure, why not. Reading is fun, even though I don't know much about the topic

Alright. Here's a link to a draft I've uploaded, it's only valid for the next 24 hours. The paper is not yet finished, but please read and enjoy!
https://jumpshare.com/s/clKRJdqj9ebhu0DusxUJ

 

[Doedoel]

Fake demon be like

Neve fold with backlash if you saying controversial topic

Oooh 😨 Oooh 😰 shivers me timbers 😭 ts so alpha-coded i'm literally shaking me boots

also, Never*
also also, "Never* fold with backlash"?

 

[Basic_human]

Oooh 😨 Oooh 😰 shivers me timbers 😭 ts so alpha-coded i'm literally shaking me boots

also, Never*
also also, "Never* fold with backlash"?

Your mockery mean nothing

 

[Lowfyie]

tsk these betas... Bickering about the most pointless things... tsk damn... They never talk about anything meaningful, like dogecoin and Elon Musk... Unlike me. tsk damn... Its hard being a sigma. tsk

 

[BakedBanana]

Ahem.
Omegaverse.

 

[Angry_Panda]

All these users getting greek-pilled by MSML. Meanwhile, I'm over here doing the panda thing.

 

[BakedBanana]

All these users getting greek-pilled by MSML. Meanwhile, I'm over here doing the panda thing.

And I'm doing the Mario. I miss this show.

 

[MinecraftStoryModeLover]

All these users getting greek-pilled by MSML. Meanwhile, I'm over here doing the panda thing.

I actually would like to know (of the people who read it) your opinions. Can you follow it? Is it interesting so far?

 

[Basic_human]

I actually would like to know (of the people who read it) your opinions. Can you follow it? Is it interesting so far?

Huh.... A normal response

Genuinely suprise me

 

[Itsukimoto]

Ahem.
Omegaverse.

 

[Angry_Panda]

I actually would like to know (of the people who read it) your opinions. Can you follow it? Is it interesting so far?

It's laid out well; the one significant suggestion I would make would be to tighten it up some at the start - do away with some of the descriptors and repetition in the introductory section:

In the year 1453, the history of two groups were forever changed. The Greeks, the holders of one of the most splendorous cities in the world, and their opponents, the Turks, who conquered that very same city. By the time Constantinople had fallen, most of what we consider to be Greece had been under Ottoman administration for about only 20 years. The long-lasting Eastern Roman Empire was on borrowed time, limping towards its death after the devastating Fourth Crusade. But the capture of Constantinople was not a struggle of ethnicity. It was a struggle of destiny.

The Greeks of the city had long held the belief that the Virgin Mary herself had shielded the city from conquest. The sultan of the Ottoman Turks, Mehmed II, had something to prove: not only to his court, but to the legacy of his father and the prophecy of the hadith. Despite the initial circumstance of domination of the Greeks by the Ottomans, Greeks in the successive era of conquest and state-building would play an immensely important role to the Ottoman administration. They were certainly vital in the affairs of the Ottoman Empire. This paper will showcase the various roles of importance that Greeks of the Ottoman Empire took up, the division in opinion of contemporary voices, both internal and foreign, over continuing Ottoman domination of Greece, and why the role of the Greeks in the Ottoman Empire was not as black-and-white as is made out by many historians.

This paper will demonstrate how their roles in power directly contributed to the Greek revolution, new Hellenic identity, and even 20th century concepts like the Megali Idea. This will be accomplished in a deep study on the Greek War of Independence, through the sources of official Ottoman state correspondence, writings of influential Philhellenes and Hellenes, and the first hand accounts of those on the ground during the war, as well as incidents that lead up to and concluded the conflict.

I would trim (and potentially sharpen the focus of the paper) to something like:

The conquest of Greek Constantinople by the Turks in 1453, following a mere 20 years of Ottoman administration of greater Greece, marked an inflection point in the final decline of the Eastern Roman Empire, a process accelerated by the devastating Fourth Crusade. However, this was not a struggle defined solely by ethnicity. Despite the initial subjugation of the Greeks by the Ottomans, Greeks in the successive era of conquest and state-building would hold important roles within the new administration and prove vital to the affairs of the Ottoman Empire. This paper serves to showcase the various positions of importance that Greeks within the Ottoman Empire held; to illustrate the variety of opinion of contemporary voices, both internal and foreign, about this practice of Greek inclusion; and to show how this practice influenced the Greek revolution, the subsequent Hellenic identity, and 20th century concepts like the Megali Idea. This last point will be illustrated by way of a review of the Greek War of Independence through sources of official Ottoman state correspondence, writings of influential Philhellenes and Hellenes, and first-hand accounts of those on the ground during the war, as well as a synopsis of related incidents that led up to and followed the conflict.

I would save the point about the Greek and Ottoman beliefs for a bit later in the paper.

 

[MinecraftStoryModeLover]

It's laid out well; the one significant suggestion I would make would be to tighten it up some at the start - do away with some of the descriptors and repetition in the introductory section:

I would trim (and potentially sharpen the focus of the paper) to something like:

I would save the point about the Greek and Ottoman beliefs for a bit later in the paper.

I should've communicated better. The reason why I used the word "destiny" rather than faith was because I wanted to tie the end of the paper (that being the supposed "national destiny" of the Greek state, the Megali Idea) to the beginning of the Ottoman rise. I thought it would be a nice way to cap off the entire idea. But the paper itself is supposed to be about the roles of Greeks in the Ottoman empire, specifically influential Greeks who benefited from their rule and examples to the contrary. I think it is also necessary to communicate the richness of Constantinople, so that it's devastation (as seen when referring to Mehmed's capture and later with the first hand account of the courtier taken to slavery) is more apparent and later recovery is made more remarkable.

I appreciate your input, and I will consider your suggestions. One minor comment, the Greek inclusion in administration is not the matter of debate by foreigners, it is the Greek inclusion in the lands of the Ottomans that is the matter of debate, hence why it is phrased as "continued dominance."

 

[MinecraftStoryModeLover]

And to anyone observing this conversation from afar... take the GREEK PILL and read my awesome WIP paper. It's well researched and worth your time. I'll also be uploading a previous paper on the origin of the name Macedonia, how its use became warped, and the modern political consequences.

 

[MinecraftStoryModeLover]

Here's the Macedonia Paper, available for a limited 24 hour window.


And yes. It's very pro-Greece.

 

[BakedBanana]

Alright. Here's a link to a draft I've uploaded, it's only valid for the next 24 hours. The paper is not yet finished, but please read and enjoy!
https://jumpshare.com/s/clKRJdqj9ebhu0DusxUJ

I actually would like to know (of the people who read it) your opinions. Can you follow it? Is it interesting so far?

And to anyone observing this conversation from afar... take the GREEK PILL and read my awesome WIP paper. It's well researched and worth your time. I'll also be uploading a previous paper on the origin of the name Macedonia, how its use became warped, and the modern political consequences.

Sorry dood, tried reading it but it's really not my cup of tea.

 

[Angry_Panda]

I should've communicated better. The reason why I used the word "destiny" rather than faith was because I wanted to tie the end of the paper (that being the supposed "national destiny" of the Greek state, the Megali Idea) to the beginning of the Ottoman rise. I thought it would be a nice way to cap off the entire idea. But the paper itself is supposed to be about the roles of Greeks in the Ottoman empire, specifically influential Greeks who benefited from their rule and examples to the contrary. I think it is also necessary to communicate the richness of Constantinople, so that it's devastation (as seen when referring to Mehmed's capture and later with the first hand account of the courtier taken to slavery) is more apparent and later recovery is made more remarkable.

I appreciate your input, and I will consider your suggestions. One minor comment, the Greek inclusion in administration is not the matter of debate by foreigners, it is the Greek inclusion in the lands of the Ottomans that is the matter of debate, hence why it is phrased as "continued dominance."

Fair enough. Presumably you have worked up an outline and are just fleshing that out, so yes, stick with that. I would suggest that if you've never worked through Strunk & White's Elements of Style you make time to do that over the upcoming semester break. It is an excellent guide to efficient writing.

 

[MinecraftStoryModeLover]

Fair enough. Presumably you have worked up an outline and are just fleshing that out, so yes, stick with that. I would suggest that if you've never worked through Strunk & White's Elements of Style you make time to do that over the upcoming semester break. It is an excellent guide to efficient writing.

Oh trust me. I never make outlines for my papers. I choose sources and decide as I write. The fact my papers come out legible at all is a miracle.

 

[Basic_human]

Oh trust me. I never make outlines for my papers. I choose sources and decide as I write. The fact my papers come out legible at all is a miracle.

You need outline and planning when make a paper?

 

[medalion]

good shit. Was a coherent structured read. I don't have any literary skill so i wont suggest any improvements.