Kaisha to Shiseikatsu: On to Off - Ch. 25 - The Hanku Family

[Drm186]

An adult invites a member of the opposite gender to week/weekend at the family retreat, of course the family will assume you are already in a relationship

 

[Zejfi]

So what was Hanku's reaction in the train about?

 

[ClothoBuer]

No no, leave the futons together. I wanna see where this goes.

 

[AccForManga]

If only every family was as accepting.

The dogs little smirk was amazing tho.

 

[Kaito57]

SHE'S 50 !? QUICKLY NOW, AMATA AND AKI : HAVE A KID SO THAT SHE CAN UPGRADE TO "GILF" !!!

 

[KimKowabunga]

Puritan americans in shambles rn. You can be a boy and be feminine after all. No need to lob your nuts off.

 

[SveNo]

"Oh, right, he's a boy!" 🤣

<Pushes the futons a bit closer>

 

[AccForManga]

Puritan americans in shambles rn. You can be a boy and be feminine after all. No need to lob your nuts off.

The last part wasnt needed. Two completely different things.

 

[liliafaerie]

First thing I noticed: Mom AND Dad are fine as fuck. 10/10 hotties

This is just a theory/interpretation, but... I’ve been wondering if Amata might be demiromantic (meaning he doesn’t feel romantic attraction unless he’s formed a close emotional bond first) ? When he says, “I’ve never experienced romantic feelings,” I don’t think he’s just talking about Hanku. I think he means he’s never experienced romantic feelings in general. He doesn’t seem like the type to form crushes casually. He clearly likes Hanku and cares about her a lot, but is very careful not to call it romance.

I mean.. Amata has been hiding his crossdressing from everyone since he first started, which means he's likely kept himself emotionally guarded all this time, unable to truly fall in love while concealing such a fundamental part of his identity. He literally has a gaggle of women fawning and yearning for him at work, like he's clearly attractive so I doubt finding a girlfriend is a problem. Hanku is the first person he's allowed himself to be vulnerable with, and truly himself. It would explain why he gets so flustered and blushes around her, even when he doesn’t like her “like that.”

I guess it's the intimacy of being seen and accepted for who he truly is that's overwhelmingly new to him, and not romantic attraction (yet, fingers crossed!).

 

[zymosan99]

So it wasn't only me who thought this "mom" could also be crossdressing since they're drawn so similarly.

very androgynous characters.

 

[MoonlitPebbles]

the way Kanade "comes out" to Aki's family is just beyond queer-coded 💜 and it was very pleasant to see Aki's family being so accepting of Kanade. I personally see both Kanade and Aki as non-binary in the gender-non-conforming sense, and they are nonbinary yuri to me (not to mention the actual lilies/yuri in Kanade's panel background last chapter 😂)

 

[Takuma_Aki]

So she really is actually her mom, not dad nor brother

 

[synthubus]

between this chapter and all the lilies as amata's background on the train the subtext is coming close to outweighing the text. very curious about where we're going with this.

 

[KimKowabunga]

The last part wasnt needed. Two completely different things.

10 years ago I would've agreed with you, with the current femboy erasure due to american puritans turned trans advocates I will have to disagree.

A lot of modern day american transgenderism is rooted in the base assumption that if you are feminine or like to cross-dress you have to be a woman or else it's homosexuality or a "sin".

 

[AccForManga]

10 years ago I would've agreed with you, with the current femboy erasure due to american puritans turned trans advocates I will have to disagree.

A lot of modern day american transgenderism is rooted in the base assumption that if you are feminine or like to cross-dress you have to be a woman or else it's homosexuality or a "sin".

"Femboy erasure"

There will always be femboys. No one is erasing them.

But there is no denying some who identified that way years back were actually trans girls/women who thought it was the safer option(or didnt know about being trans yet or just didnt realize it yet) at the time.

But that doesnt...change the ones who are feminine leaning boys/men, they arent trans and still are around.

Both types of people are valid. So no need to try to deny trans people just because you think it....idk even what to say here...devalues(?) femboys or something.

Basically putting one type of marginalized people down because you think there is some erasure of another type is...just really odd.

Just is odd to me to even bring up "lobbing off nuts" when it was never needed to say, just seems callous.

 

[huskywastaken]

10 years ago I would've agreed with you, with the current femboy erasure due to american puritans turned trans advocates I will have to disagree.

A lot of modern day american transgenderism is rooted in the base assumption that if you are feminine or like to cross-dress you have to be a woman or else it's homosexuality or a "sin".

So your take is that American puritans are pushing femboys into transitioning.... What universe do you live in?

Here back on earth most puritans (along with most other denominations of Christianity) equally despise femboys and trans women, for the sema exact reasons: they view gender as a strict binary defined by "biology" (specifically whatever they're convinced biology means that week), where neither group fits in.

Moreover puritans turned trans advocates aren't a thing, the trans movement can be cleanly traced back to the queer liberation movements of the 70s-80s. Are there puritans who support trans liberation? I'm sure there are. Claiming that specifically american puritan ideology informs current day trans advocacy is charitably misinformed, though I'd more accurately describe it as demented.

 

[WojtekTheCat]

im going to be as old as the mom before i see these two kiss maybe i should change my mind and hope for some hand holding action...

thank you for the chapter!

 

[Kirin-kun]

I think their reasoning is that cross-dressing boys who identify as boys and are NOT interested in being girls, or even think of themselves as girls, whatever their sexual preferences, is something that some people refuse to accept. They're automatically labeled as "eggs" and looked at with a "we know what you are" look.

Japan doesn't have a problem with cross-dressing boys being boys inside.

 

[AccForManga]

I think their reasoning is that cross-dressing boys who identify as boys and are NOT interested in being girls, or even think of themselves as girls, whatever their sexual preferences, is something that some people refuse to accept. They're automatically labeled as "eggs" and looked at with a "we know what you are" look.

Japan doesn't have a problem with cross-dressing boys being boys inside.

Sure but thats no reason to word it so callously as "lobbing off nuts".

It sounds more like putting the blame, or putting down, on anyone who is trans who wanted to change their body to feel more comfortable with themself instead of the blame on the few who do what you said with the egg thing.

Idk, even if the point of "let feminine boys be boys" is valid, just felt like a wrong way to say it is all.

 

[synthubus]

10 years ago I would've agreed with you, with the current femboy erasure due to american puritans turned trans advocates I will have to disagree.

A lot of modern day american transgenderism is rooted in the base assumption that if you are feminine or like to cross-dress you have to be a woman or else it's homosexuality or a "sin".

you are pants shitting mad at someone who straight up doesn't exist and its REALLY funny please keep going