Tou no Kanri o Shitemiyou - Vol. 27 Ch. 91 - The 91st Floor - The Living God's Judgement

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orange man bad screw the Babylon tower??
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great chapter to show that greediness ends destroying their own-selves
 
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Considering that the other alternative to these punishments is the divine nuke, i guess they got off lightly in comparison. Still, I’d imagine that the current Gates Kingdom prolly will greatly struggle to reclaim their tower, judging by their panicked looks.

I don’t think the temple bit is a distinction. IMO it’s basically a softly-said threat that the gods are fully aware of said temple’s corruption, and until Dominic’s temple (and all related associates and branches) are purged, one could expect severe shortcomings with their lifestyle until they are purged and the temple remade…or until the kingdom gets destroyed by neighbors and/or monsters, whichever kills them first.
I think the issue is the whole context of things:
1 - Erisamille already knew of their corruption and warned the priests to change their ways and they ignored

2 - King Arthur also already knew of all the corruption but ignored it for his own profit

3 - Erisamille will announce to everyone what happened, including King Arthur involvement, so purging the temple is useless cause he's already fucked

4 - they're technically revoking the blessing from the temples only yes, so the kingdom and its people are still blessed, but aren't the temples proxies of the gods? Priests are still the ones who probably apply blessings to people and places individually, so when their blessings lose power nobody can renew it

Maybe I'm wrong but I think the implications are that like, imagine if out of nowhere all factories stopped work in a country, no more production of goods, food, weapons, whatever you name it, so when what they have runs out they're fucked

I think it's basically a slow version of the Tragedy of The Hippolis Empire, at that time the gods completely removed the blessings from the entire kingdom altogether, so they were fucked right away, this time they're taking it only from the church, which gives the innocent people time to act and get a solution, if they don't? Well, then they deserve a slow death

The goverment body of the whole country is done for, both the royality and the church, the only thing they can do is get new rulers and a new church
 
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He was getting his way until now, then he fucked with a living God :pepela:



The thing is that Kousuke doesn't want to outright kill people, much less the innocent civilians, also, this punishment might look lenient but it might be more cruel because two things will probably happen:

1 - people will know the king and the church utterly fucked, what are the chances the people will rise and do a purge?

2 - if Kousuke decided to destroy the kingdom that was it, but as it was said without a blessing the country is doomed to a slow death, no crops, no hunting, monsters attacking

Kousuke is arguably being reasonable, it's like with the previous idiots who messed with him, the angels made clear to everyone they fucked up and the civilians took the matter in their hands, so the people responsible gets punished and the innocent civilians don't get hurt cause they're smarter than their leaders

Although we don't know what will happen after the purge cause the civilians will still have no church and no blessing, living in that country wil not be nice for a few years or decades until the gods decide to bless them again

In short, instead of a quick death they're going to have a long time of hardships, it's not flashy but it'll send message to everyone to not fuck up with Kousuke without needing to nuke everyone
I think the implication is that the temple lost the divine blessing, thus they have to either purge that temple and accept another temple as their ruling group (think if baptism or catholicism was branded as heresy by jesus himself kinda thing), basically, anywhere that supports that temple will not sustain itself.
 
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the 2nd point, again, what Kousuke did there, just gave only the church a massive erasure (because the country will not be losing the blessing, they will not get the same punishment of failing crops, not getting to hunt animals or the attack of beasts), pretty much the country will need to get another temple there or whatever other empire/kingdom absorbs them, because with the big f*ck up, all the world will see that place as easy pickings.
The other thing is that church got warnings by the gods before this moment, so the people will share part of the punishment as they let their leaders majorly screw up.

the other churches were butthurt with Kousuke until the tower got the 3 temples and the goddesses appearing in the mortal realm, we have seen already the thicc head priest acting correctly, why would they leave that place with a god so close? specially since they have already get revelations about acting in good faith with the living god.
Another church and another set of rulers, everyone will know King Arthur is involved lol

The thing about the other churchs is that they were butthurt cause they thought themselves all powerful and Kousuke showed them otherwise, they can't freely profit and abuse their power anymore, the goddess appearing simply showed them they can't do anything against Kousuke no matter what, I think they're still butthurt for losing power, especially that one dumb dude

The reality is that most of the higher ups didn't seem to really care that much about the gods, only about having power, so I think they'll see this as a opportunity to having power again even if it's in another country
 
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Such severe corruption from priests in a world where gods actually interact with the people? And actually engaging in something that can be easily called heresy? I mean, what the fuck did they expect?
To be fair the gods apparently rarely were able to directly interact with people, so they would always interpret god words whatever way they want and the gods probably let it pass cause they couldn't do much besides just let it go for now or nuke everyone
I think the implication is that the temple lost the divine blessing, thus they have to either purge that temple and accept another temple as their ruling group (think if baptism or catholicism was branded as heresy by jesus himself kinda thing), basically, anywhere that supports that temple will not sustain itself.
Oh yeah, that's for sure, I think the only thing that it's still unsure is what will happen with the royality, King Arthur is fucked that's for sure, but then what? His daughter or whatever becomes the new queen and purges the church? Or all nobles as a whole are fucked?

I say daughter cause who are we kidding? New possible waifu for Kousuke :pepela:

I guess another reason it was removed only from the church is to see what the population will do, after all they're probably considered partially to blame for the entire situation
That's the point, Goddesses get respect and people suffer minimum damage.
I'm actually rethinking my part on the royiality cause maybe only King Arthur will be fucked, it's hard to say cause a lot of times the entire lineage gets fucked in such situations

The funny thing is that if it depended on the godess herself she would just fuck up everyone right away, they think Kousuke is going too far but they're arguably getting a slap on the wrist by comparison to the alternatives :pepela:
 
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Besides that kingdom being effectively ended without getting the 99% of innocents there directly involved, I LIKE the way the Tower "Issue" will be solved...

"You simply want to take our Tower Riches!!"

"What?!! Hell No... Too much hassle... We'll simply conquer it and then reset it.. Up to you to conquer it again like your ancestors did, if you really think you're up to it..
By the way... You're completely free to try to do that to our Tower.. If you think you can... Be our guest...."

Would be dead good fun if Kosuke made it "easy" to get to the Woof Floor. And have the Woofs play Fetch and dump the conquering party back in front of the Guild Hall. Slightly slobbery and worse for wear..
Every. Single. Time. they try.... :LOL:

As strong and... dangerous if you tick them off.. the Woofs are, the way they're depicted that would be a type of game they'd love to play .... ;)
 
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2 - I feel the temple details is just a distinction without a difference, the country still loses the blessing by proxy cause all the churchs are now worthless
It's actually an Important one. Had his Country multiple Temples of differing Gods it would still be fine but now they lose their only one. So either the Country stops being one or they find another Temple. And we can be sure whatever the other Temple will ask of them will pretty much cripple the rulership ... if they don't get offed by the people like you said first.
 
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He was getting his way until now, then he fucked with a living God :pepela:



The thing is that Kousuke doesn't want to outright kill people, much less the innocent civilians, also, this punishment might look lenient but it might be more cruel because two things will probably happen:

1 - people will know the king and the church utterly fucked, what are the chances the people will rise and do a purge?

2 - if Kousuke decided to destroy the kingdom that was it, but as it was said without a blessing the country is doomed to a slow death, no crops, no hunting, monsters attacking

Kousuke is arguably being reasonable, it's like with the previous idiots who messed with him, the angels made clear to everyone they fucked up and the civilians took the matter in their hands, so the people responsible gets punished and the innocent civilians don't get hurt cause they're smarter than their leaders

Although we don't know what will happen after the purge cause the civilians will still have no church and no blessing, living in that country wil not be nice for a few years or decades until the gods decide to bless them again

In short, instead of a quick death they're going to have a long time of hardships, it's not flashy but it'll send message to everyone to not fuck up with Kousuke without needing to nuke everyone
About the blessings, one thing that was alluded to with the phrasing of the chapter is that the current temples would lose the blessing.
This means there might be room for innocent civilians to create new temples in order to regain blessings for the land.

The people are still going to have to go through hardship, but nonetheless, there seems to be a way out, even if difficult to achieve.
 
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So last page, all those goddesses are getting dressed up because they're all treating this "gods descend to announce this personally" as a chance to go on a trip and visit Kousuke?
While visiting Kousuke might be a good motivator, based on earlier chapters, gods don't necessarily have the possibility of being in contact with the world.
Worst case being gods disappearing once no one in the world remembers them.
By getting an opportunity like this, it would allow them to strenghen their connection to the world.

But it would be hilarious if droves of goddesses end up swarming the tower where Kousuke is XD
 
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Or above the temple(s) in the Offending Kingdom...... Women Scorned etc..... :eek:

If you think about it... the sheer size of the Can of Worms the idiots opened.... That's downright Scary on so many levels....
 
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I mean, are we assuming the whole country is bad? What about the people? If nobles are corrupt, what about the commonfolk? Do they deserve to be wiped off the world too, just because their king is a dumbass?
IMO, you can throw these 3 to the masses and let them deal with the scum that almost killed them all.....but erasing the whole country seems a bit too much
These are reasonable moral questions from a mortal standpoint, but not a fathomable one for gods. Because they are gods, everything they do is right and just even if it looks horrific. If you see a termite nest encroaching your property, you exterminate it; this is the same.
Kousuke has the moral foundations of a mortal, so leaving him to decide judgement is technically the gods being considerate, but he still has to exact punishment in a manner fitting of a god.
 
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I still don't know what the former priest thought he was going to get out of this. Like your temple was told about a living god and your idea is to denounce and defame him? For what?
 
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they're technically revoking the blessing from the temples only yes, so the kingdom and its people are still blessed, but aren't the temples proxies of the gods? Priests are still the ones who probably apply blessings to people and places individually, so when their blessings lose power nobody can renew it

Temples right now are mostly just place the gods send oracles to. It's mostly one-way.

The blessings come directly from the gods (see how many of Kousuke's familiars get blessing from various gods)
Most priests can't even use divine power.
 
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These are reasonable moral questions from a mortal standpoint, but not a fathomable one for gods. Because they are gods, everything they do is right and just even if it looks horrific. If you see a termite nest encroaching your property, you exterminate it; this is the same.
Kousuke has the moral foundations of a mortal, so leaving him to decide judgement is technically the gods being considerate, but he still has to exact punishment in a manner fitting of a god.
Not really the correct example imo....termites function based on the hive mind, that means if the queen is a bitch, they all are bitches...human, on the other hand, act based on their own thinking
(And besides, I'd consider me defending my home from a termite nest more like a war between kindgoms, rather than an act of god)
And I think gods can't just wipe a kingdom for no reason...I mean, they need mortals...iirc, there are quite a lot of goddesses that are almost "dying" because they have no follower and thus no power/energy

Anyway, my point was that killing the whole kingdom, where there could be people just living and minding their business that didn't know the 3 idiots were about to fuck everyone lives, it's a bit too much
And Kousuke's punishment, while it will inevitably ruin their lives anyway, still gives them the possibility of being alive, leave the land that's going to rot away and start anew somewhere else....but they will be alive (and possibly cursing the 3 idiots from morning till night lol)
 
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I find it weird how many disasters there are now related to blaspheming the gods. Previously we only knew about that one where a city gets destroyed. But apparently there are at least two about entire empires getting destroyed. And the stories are well-known enough that a priestess can just mention the name of the disaster and people know of it.

When there was only a story about one city getting destroyed, that seemed a lot easier to ignore. But now there are at least 3 of these in a world where people know that gods really exist? Are temples stupid?
Don’t they have an orbital cannon? Just wipe them out
I think you're overvaluing the strategic uses of the cannon. It isn't all-powerful.

If I remember correctly, it isn't orbital, it fires from the top of the tower and travels in a straight line. Which means it does have to worry about things like the curvature of the world and line-of-sight. So depending on where this other continent is and how big this world is, it might not have line-of-sight to the continent, much less to any particular target.

It also costs a lot of power to use it at its lowest setting, and has a small area-of-effect when used like that. Previously they used it to sink 1 ship. Maybe with the right angles and a tight formation they could hit multiple ships or even a whole fleet. But if you have 3 different people / factions / whatever to punish on a different continent and only have one or two shots of something that'll destroy a few buildings at most, what do you pick to shoot at?

And even if you used the cannon, it could be spun as someone with a powerful tower making war, not a god dealing out divine punishment.
 

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