Tsuki ga Michibiku Isekai Douchuu - Ch. 114 - Like a lightbulb

[Knighto]

Spoiler: Reply to Pilomotors comment because I don’t know if spoilers work in reply’s

Man that sounds super cool and I would’ve liked to see that instead of Mio just murdering him because he inconvenienced Mikoto

I would say that's better because...

Spoiler

bro was never the protagonist of the story, this show you that world was waaay too f*cked up, although as a WN reader and having watched the anime, this chapter didn't happened, so him getting his just desserts at the hands of Mio for being an annoying moron and actually not caring about other people: his ego never let him talk with his crush like a normal person, she wanted to escape those memories and he couldn't accept a rejection, not even try to sympathize and talk with her in another time (that's more of hyuman culture), his ego and weakness because he loses to a branch family member led him to the drugs and his hate for Makoto because he turned into A STALKER and Makoto was guarding her and her sister led him to turn into a monster and finally gets offed by Mio.
the moment of Illum reappering with a 3RD CHANCE to recover, makes him more pitiful though and kinda overkill by the author

Props for hunt down some more info. The WN is what I read so the LN may vary but there is a point in the WN that goes against the idea of Makoto being a responsible teacher.

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Shiki has a conversation with Shen and they have a significant moment of deciding what is crossing the threshold of betrayal as servants. Shiki pretends to evaluate Abelia as Makoto to keep her inspired because his actual evaulation is litterally a soul crushing, "average" which would break her based on the siginificant amount of effort and devotion she's put into the class to keep up. Shen then goes through and describes how they all might be servants but they all ended up expecting different things out of Makoto subconciously and Shiki was hoping Makoto would grow closer and more empthatic to Hyumans by teaching but ended up getting attached himself which is (paraphase) "laughable as a lynch who's tortured and killed hundreds if not thousands of creatures for magical experimentation". It's a good character moment between them but goes to show that even the job role he takes on for students he puts very little thought into.

You can also see Makoto isn't a responsible teacher because while he does expand the students horizons teaching them to think outside the ridged structure of school with his practical experience he does basically hand off the class to his demi-plane residents and leaves the students to re-evaulate their stragety and tactics themselves which is great for future adventurers but his only real input in the manga has been to have eris keep them alive which is about the same level of responsibility he shows for the demi-plane residents. The residence fall into subservience because they respect and revere the world he transported them too but he never interfers or decides how they live their life besides the minimum societal laws.

...but also yes japan/korean love school arcs lol.

well getting to be a teacher was done by Shiki, as many things in the story, gets forced to do sh!t he doesn't want to, and also his servants have a weird mix of trying to solve anything for Makoto while at the same time let him choose what he wants to do (mostly Tomoe and Mio though)

Spoiler: about the WN spoiler

I also like that part, and another comment mention that some of his servants gets afraid of Makoto's apathy, well those are Lime and Shiki, the only ones that are close to him with a past of being hyumans, the weirdest thing, is they never try to put in the shoes of Makoto about that, because he gets sents to that world after being verbally abused by the bug goddess, them the only people that treats him well are the demihumans, as he's ugly to hyumans he sadly sees mostly of greedy hyumans trying to get on his riches and their unfounded hate for demi-humans that ends costing the lives of his people and severely injuring Tomoe, severely damages his view of hyuman. Time passes and he gets once again severely humilliated by the merchant guild master when he was just starting to have a good time on the Academy city and for what, for making afordable potions and helping the people there with the fruits of the demiplane, then he gets betrayed by Rona so he gets tired of the demons too and that turns his apathy for the world of the goddess to 99%, the only people he actually cares outside the demiplane is Rembrandt and barely Toa because she looks like his crush.

and his apathy continues until he mets the heroes from the past, when he finally gets a chance to circle back and finally realize how easily he was taking lives, which the series has shown us was a problem he had since childhood being so close to death from his body not getting used to Earth's gravity? (he was like reverse goku hahaha), actually the mana.
Also and weird how nobody mentions it, Makoto has always wanted to go back to his world too, so Tomoe isn't that happy with that (why she didn't want to explain some chapters ago to Makoto that there was a possibility to go to earth) and Shiki doesn't understand that, because he hasn't lived that long in that world, even if he was a Lich in the end he's a weak creature to the top of the world. But I liked their talk because it gives us their perspective and that even if their were servants, they still have their own dreams and desires, which Shiki ends experimenting on Abelia to help her get stronger.

 

[Amariithynar]

I've been reading the official translated LNs. Vol 12 is just a mess -- multiple huge plot holes. IMO the author just randomly adds new arcs on with zero long term plan.

Example (from the past): Makoto originally heads to Rotsgard in order to study magic, since all he knows is some basic stuff. But then when he gets there, he accidentally takes a teacher test, then passes that and becomes a teacher. That makes no sense. And it's even worse since he's got Shiki, who is a massively skilled and knowledgeable mage and could teach a vast amount of material. (The manga glosses this over a bit by having Makoto sit in on a low level class and learn some basics -- but AFAIK that's a manga original that does not take place in the LN.)

Vol 12's plot logic errors are like that, but much much worse.

The manga substantially improves on the LN, but it can't fix what's fundamentally broken (without completely rewriting the story, which would be going too far.)

If what you describe is actually what happened there, then the problem isn't the LN, the problem is the localization, because it's made very clear that he was set up by the referral for it to be him taking the teacher test while he thought it was for student entry.

 

[StormSen]

If what you describe is actually what happened there, then the problem isn't the LN, the problem is the localization, because it's made very clear that he was set up by the referral for it to be him taking the teacher test while he thought it was for student entry.

Makoto's intention was to become a student. But wires get crossed (Rembrandt, etc.), and he ends up taking an exam to be a teacher. That's an accident from Makoto's PoV. And Makoto's PoV is what's relevant, because the concern is with his motivation and priorities.

 

[Amariithynar]

Makoto's intention was to become a student. But wires get crossed (Rembrandt, etc.), and he ends up taking an exam to be a teacher. That's an accident from Makoto's PoV. And Makoto's PoV is what's relevant, because the concern is with his motivation and priorities.

Which isn't a plot hole. It's even covered shortly afterwards when he finds out he did the teacher exam that he came just to learn as a student, instead. He stayed on as a teacher because it paid him and he could choose his own students and what he taught, leaving him mostly free to do whatever he wanted.

 

[LordTartaros]

I leave that manga for over 2 years and we’re still not caught up with the anime

 

[Elaborate]

I feel like the whole Ilumgand situation, along with others, gives more depth to the world; there are things the MC doesn't know, and his followers have agendas of their own that don't 100% coincide with his.
Makoto has flaws, and those flaws have real consequences in this world, even if in the end he doesn't notice them. This makes him a more believable character.

 

[DBAV]

Am I the only one seeing this as character growth? Makoto suffered the consequences of sparing hyumans once, so he goes for the kill.

 

[hiphopopotamo]

I feel like the people saying Illum got screwed out of character development/being saved are kind of ignoring the page where he learns that Makoto is a psycopath.

 

[MaTu94]

Having seen the anime and now getting more context with the manga I've gotta say that the coincidences present interesting future developments but so many (the ones we've seen and the ones to come) piled together are starting to detract from the suspension of disbelief to make it feel artificially designed.

Thanks a lot for the scanlation ^.^