Koushiki Furin

[rluka]

The publisher's decision may have been decisive because Nikumaru-sensei had said that the manga would be shortened by 12 chapters. And the backlash from the Western community (including China in the middle of all this) also contributed to this.

Maybe the auto-translate for that tweet is not working well.

After chapter 3, someone asked him about the time skip and how long this story would be. He answered 12 episodes.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2030933427281858802

I don’t think overseas reaction is contributing, despite how those who hates NTR try to make it as justification for their cause. The story theme is still cheating.
And with the project canned, there’s not even an excuse about being forced to. They’re going to be doing this by their own choice.

And the Japanese backlash would be more like Omi said. Not simply NTR or not, but in the more foundational storytelling issues.

I remember an article mangaka that turned into doujin and he was much appreciated when he shifted there. Maybe he needs to reconsider now on his career as mangaka.

Which was it? Only remember Hinako Note’s author who found her aspiration is actually being ero mangaka

It’s still acceptable for me. Chapter 1-6 is like setting up the situation, and the current situation still have potential to pull an interesting development.
Although there is disappointment on how the “Official” part no longer apply. It’s still not as bad as Aitsu no Kanojo for trying too hard on hiding things. Well, that one is also burdened by the story lasting for too long, so there’s fatigue too.
Still want to see the drama that will come up.

This reply though ^^;;

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2041183676478927123

Imagine if both got together and suddenly actually we’re step siblings.
Maybe the Official is Chinami knowing Fumiya and Naruse are cheating on her, but says nothing because she also knows Shi-chan is also Fumiya’s kid. Dumpster fire ending.

 

[CaioAUTReal]

Yes, and that's why I'm disappointed. I would like the author to cook more on the story.
Abrupt interruption then time skip with weak back storytelling, then enforcing that Chinami and Fumiya did not talk about what happened when they are away each other, which does not make sense. He tries salvaging it by forcing concealment then at the end of this short lived series, it will be mediocre, similar to Aitsu no Kanojo. NTR or not, this is really a bad way of gutting his creation. I'm hoping this will be his redemption from his last manga. Oh well I guess he really needs this job.
I remember an article mangaka that turned into doujin and he was much appreciated when he shifted there. Maybe he needs to reconsider now on his career as mangaka.

That's what I've been thinking about this whole time. Geez, I know Nikumaru-sensei is good at drawing and bad at writing stories, but doesn't he already have "Bad Girl" to boost his audience? The series already had an anime adaptation, does a lot of collaborations with Japanese companies, and even held a concert with the voice actresses... The author only needed to be content with this type of work, which doesn't show any of the vulgarity that his other works do. ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

If it weren't for the success of "Bad Girl," he would be in debt and would lose royalties from sales of anime-related products and everything else. And what was the most obvious alternative the author would dare to take to avoid a potential loss? Selling adult-oriented books with NTR themes. 🙄

I suspect the success of his well-received work has gone to Nikumaru's head.

 

[Omi0110]

It’s still acceptable for me. Chapter 1-6 is like setting up the situation, and the current situation still have potential to pull an interesting development.
Although there is disappointment on how the “Official” part no longer apply. It’s still not as bad as Aitsu no Kanojo for trying too hard on hiding things. Well, that one is also burdened by the story lasting for too long, so there’s fatigue too.
Still want to see the drama that will come up.

This reply though ^^;;

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/2041183676478927123

Imagine if both got together and suddenly actually we’re step siblings.
Maybe the Official is Chinami knowing Fumiya and Naruse are cheating on her, but says nothing because she also knows Shi-chan is also Fumiya’s kid. Dumpster fire ending.

Well he did one small time skip then big time skip, and hyper focused on Fumiya's POV only. not much character development on other ones, even on Chinami. But as this becomes 'cheating' now, Chinami was demoted to be minor supporting character since Fumiya did not even asked what happened to her. Unless the author intentionally wanted Fumiya to fall out of love with Chinami, but he did not and actually does a rationale thing for trauma recovery and it did not affect their relationships. Just within a chapter, there are many contradictions that left more question than answer. And he runs out of chapter budgets, only 5 remaining now, which is tight for retconning.
If there is season 2 then he needs a lot of retcon to do. Will not be surprised if he will have another major cliffhanger or leaving more questions than answers with a lot of curveballs at end of Chapter 12, , like all along his new officemate is the husband of Naruse ( remember since it is so dark on the DVD, he just associated as Naruse's husband because she mentioned it, but visually he cannot see it clearly ) OR the partner of Chinami.

Which was it? Only remember Hinako Note’s author who found her aspiration is actually being ero mangaka

That's what I've been thinking about this whole time. Geez, I know Nikumaru-sensei is good at drawing and bad at writing stories, but doesn't he already have "Bad Girl" to boost his audience? The series already had an anime adaptation, does a lot of collaborations with Japanese companies, and even held a concert with the voice actresses... The author only needed to be content with this type of work, which doesn't show any of the vulgarity that his other works do. ¯⁠\⁠⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠⁠/⁠¯

If it weren't for the success of "Bad Girl," he would be in debt and would lose royalties from sales of anime-related products and everything else. And what was the most obvious alternative the author would dare to take to avoid a potential loss? Selling adult-oriented books with NTR themes. 🙄

I suspect the success of his well-received work has gone to Nikumaru's head.

This one. Hirune.
Although for Nikumaru, he has some crazy storytelling as well, which started from Bad Girl and he has a prototype on NTR already, which is Aitsu no Kanojo and his one-shot. I just felt he is being held on unleashing another great work.

 

[rluka]

I think he improved on the concealing compared to Aitsu no Kanojo.
Not in the way of not doing it, but rather on picking where to use it.

In Aitsu no Kanojo, Shizuku’s secret, her motivation stand out too much that it became the series’ supposed reward. Then he tease for too long, he couldn’t give a satisfying presentation.

In this one, at least for me, he had been delivering what I expected.
Nikumaru doesn’t go annoyingly persistent on teasing about the hidden parts. Instead he goes with just the emotional conflict of Fumiya and Naruse meeting again. We had enough baseline information about what happened between them. The hidden parts though, could still be seen as ignorable plot hole.

As a love triangle it’s been weak because Chinami does act like supporting character. It’s harder to sympathise about Fumiya’s love to her because it’s mostly tell, not show.

In my opinion, as long as he managed to hold back from trying to overhype the secrets, the story will go just fine. Not a masterpiece, but not a major disaster.

 

[Omi0110]

I think he improved on the concealing compared to Aitsu no Kanojo.
Not in the way of not doing it, but rather on picking where to use it.

In Aitsu no Kanojo, Shizuku’s secret, her motivation stand out too much that it became the series’ supposed reward. Then he tease for too long, he couldn’t give a satisfying presentation.

In this one, at least for me, he had been delivering what I expected.
Nikumaru doesn’t go annoyingly persistent on teasing about the hidden parts. Instead he goes with just the emotional conflict of Fumiya and Naruse meeting again. We had enough baseline information about what happened between them. The hidden parts though, could still be seen as ignorable plot hole.

As a love triangle it’s been weak because Chinami does act like supporting character. It’s harder to sympathise about Fumiya’s love to her because it’s mostly tell, not show.

In my opinion, as long as he managed to hold back from trying to overhype the secrets, the story will go just fine. Not a masterpiece, but not a major disaster.

Agree on some points especially on the last sentence, but disagree on delivering as expected. He framed it initially as government-mandated eugenics but got scared in the middle and he focused on emotions of Fumiya, and created conflict around it, rather than the original premise. The ignorable parts becomes ignorable now since he diluted the premise so much as he wanted to cram ( or salvage ? ) as much as possible, but if he stayed on the premise, it is not ignorable as this will be part of Fumiya's POV of justification of actions. He picked on wrong points of where to conceal. Maybe if this is not restricted to 12 chapters I can agree that he picks it on most efficient since he can do some flashbacks along the way or release information at most effective plot points. Right now, he is just focused on between him and Naruse only.
Case in point, look at Ch 1 to Ch3, it shows development of Chinami which signifies she is not just supporting character, even showing her POV a little as she misses Fumiya in Ch 2 and actually works on her 'deficiencies' to the point that she changes a little in Ch 3, then shifted the presentation to Fumiya and Naruse from Ch 4 to Ch 5, which good, now Ch 6 happened then Ch7 which is a major time skip, and then Chinami's development is suddenly should be accepted as 'footnote' as indicated that they did not talk about it, even after the danger is lifted. This is not effective concealment, but forceful removal of character importance.

 

[rluka]

Agree on some points especially on the last sentence, but disagree on delivering as expected. He framed it initially as government-mandated eugenics but got scared in the middle and he focused on emotions of Fumiya, and created conflict around it, rather than the original premise.

From my side, I like the turning.

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The government-mandated part is a novelty to me, and as I mentioned before, I’m too wary about it becoming just a series of fan service for the sake of it with “tasks”. And my expectation for it since the start had always been on Fumiya’s conflict between the two women. The program is just a vehicle to bring it. If the story can continue on just the ruins, then my expectation had not been betrayed yet.

In fact, it’s more natural and free now. Likewise, the way the story had been carried, I could get through with many parts untouched because my focus is on the conflicts in their relationship.

Same for the part where they don’t talk about everything. That always sound like textbook solution in story. Their choice here still feels natural. They don’t want to touch it and continue their life. In the time skip, they did managed to rebuild a peaceful life together and actually not shown to keep suspicion about their partner (which is the thing that usually cause drama on secrets).

 

[MrPP118]

Wait so this is only going to be 12 chapters long? On one hand I'm kinda pleased about that, i'm still actually a little mad about how about Aitsu No Kanojo mentioned but with

Spoiler

the timeskip and kids being born

I just wonder how this is all going to end up.

 

[Omi0110]

From my side, I like the turning.

Spoiler

The government-mandated part is a novelty to me, and as I mentioned before, I’m too wary about it becoming just a series of fan service for the sake of it with “tasks”. And my expectation for it since the start had always been on Fumiya’s conflict between the two women. The program is just a vehicle to bring it. If the story can continue on just the ruins, then my expectation had not been betrayed yet.

In fact, it’s more natural and free now. Likewise, the way the story had been carried, I could get through with many parts untouched because my focus is on the conflicts in their relationship.

Same for the part where they don’t talk about everything. That always sound like textbook solution in story. Their choice here still feels natural. They don’t want to touch it and continue their life. In the time skip, they did managed to rebuild a peaceful life together and actually not shown to keep suspicion about their partner (which is the thing that usually cause drama on secrets).

Well point taken. Chapter 8 is as what we expect. It really changed from NTR to Cheating now. The only good thing is Chinami is not immediately judged as compared from Chapter 2 to Chapter 6.
That said, people are really quick to judge others , especially to girls, in NTR but if the guy is cheating, no one bats an eye, as evident on the number immediate response after the release.
Thinking about it, I think the FMC is Naruse rather than Chinami. Especially on how they are drawn. Naruse has more details than Chinami, though I prefer Chinami looks though.

 

[Omi0110]

Wait so this is only going to be 12 chapters long? On one hand I'm kinda pleased about that, i'm still actually a little mad about how about Aitsu No Kanojo mentioned but with

Spoiler

the timeskip and kids being born

I just wonder how this is all going to end up.

Me as well, given the NTR theme has been dropped. but who knows, maybe after Ch 12 or a cliffhanger will be dropped that somehow, Chinami's partner is revealed, and much more on the determination of the children's respective fathers. Also Fumiya is starting to doubt why Chinami knows the area. And this is the problem that they should but did not talk about it at all. I mean if you are married, don't they talk something about what happened to them, as they are not under blackmail threat ( the spouse's wellbeing under threat because of programme ) UNLESS Chinami intentionally see's someone in the area way before OR this is where Chinami was held before .

 

[quichoso1234]

PAG por favor díganme que los niños no son medios hermanos

 

[rluka]

Well point taken. Chapter 8 is as what we expect. It really changed from NTR to Cheating now. The only good thing is Chinami is not immediately judged as compared from Chapter 2 to Chapter 6.
That said, people are really quick to judge others , especially to girls, in NTR but if the guy is cheating, no one bats an eye, as evident on the number immediate response after the release.
Thinking about it, I think the FMC is Naruse rather than Chinami. Especially on how they are drawn. Naruse has more details than Chinami, though I prefer Chinami looks though.

The title had always been 不倫 though.

Yeah, he dropped bomb there. I couldn’t stay by your side, while loving someone besides you.
Also cute thing is, their kids really like each other don’t they.

As for judging, it depends on the readers segment. This one is obviously targeted for male readers, and it lacks the secret element, because Fumiya is our PoV character, we know what he did without having to speculate.

Although, I think pattern like this is rare, which is exciting.

Spoiler

In both shonen and otome stuffs, author usually lighten the burden by giving justification that their partner cheated on them first (or is just a jerk). But in this, I hope Nikumaru emphasise on how Fumiya is aware he is betraying his wife and family but choose to do it anyway.

Me as well, given the NTR theme has been dropped. but who knows, maybe after Ch 12 or a cliffhanger will be dropped that somehow, Chinami's partner is revealed, and much more on the determination of the children's respective fathers. Also Fumiya is starting to doubt why Chinami knows the area. And this is the problem that they should but did not talk about it at all. I mean if you are married, don't they talk something about what happened to them, as they are not under blackmail threat ( the spouse's wellbeing under threat because of programme ) UNLESS Chinami intentionally see's someone in the area way before OR this is where Chinami was held before.

Spoiler

Part about him being suspicious of Chinami just happened now though. It will still have to wait for the next part of the story for him to confront her.

My guess is, he wouldn’t ask yet. One part is because he’s going to be too occupied with having to hide his cheating with Naruse. The other part is because this still might just be a coincidence; Nikumaru will need to drop more hints to Fumiya until he really have to ask, or found Chinami with another guy while he’s also cheating himself).

 

[Omi0110]

The title had always been 不倫 though.

But its outside of it since the premise of making it official is already killed, so its only cheating as its base.

Also cute thing is, their kids really like each other don’t they.

Its like some old dramas before haha. "Let our kids continue what we have started". For shounen / otome probably since its basically have naive point of view in terms of relationship, but on seinen or josei this somewhat more common on infidelity, with both lens of MC and supporting ones.

As for judging, it depends on the readers segment. This one is obviously targeted for male readers, and it lacks the secret element, because Fumiya is our PoV character, we know what he did without having to speculate.

Well maybe I expected more from the author. I mean its no berserk level where each character was brilliantly developed each arcs, but at least do the major ones justice. Some doujin has better story than what this is going through.

My guess is, he wouldn’t ask yet. One part is because he’s going to be too occupied with having to hide his cheating with Naruse. The other part is because this still might just be a coincidence; Nikumaru will need to drop more hints to Fumiya until he really have to ask, or found Chinami with another guy while he’s also cheating himself).[/spoiler]

This is what I'm referring to. Author's direction is so messed up since the narrative has been changed abruptly in the middle but still wanted to be on NTR premise. He wants Fumiya to be somehow gain upper hand to change from NTR to Cheating and yet he also wanted Fumiya to be still some passive beta type kind that justification only presented to him because of circumstances. It looks like he wanted to please a lot of weebs because of the backlashes plus the publisher's decision to make it short

 

[tronco777]

Lo mas seguro es que ambos hijos no sean de Fumiya. Chinami veia o sigue viendo al compañero asignado por el gobierno.

Espero estar equivocado en al menos uno, pero no creo.

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It's highly likely that neither of the children are Fumiya's. Chinami was seeing, or still is seeing, the partner assigned to her by the government.

I hope I'm wrong about at least one of them, but I doubt it.

 

[Omi0110]

It's highly likely that neither of the children are Fumiya's. Chinami was seeing, or still is seeing, the partner assigned to her by the government.

I hope I'm wrong about at least one of them, but I doubt it.

This is also very likely, given on Fumiya's POV, particularly the doubt, if the author is really going on 'NTR' theme, just masked on 'Cheating' ( and self guilt ) of Fumiya. Hopefully it will clear a lot of questions when Naruse's husband is introduced, which will be the great cliffhanger if ever.

 

[CaioAUTReal]

Oh my God... 👀💦
Should we skip to the final chapter now? 😅😅