Akuyaku Reijoutachi wa Yuruganai - Ch. 14

[ARealCoolGuy]

Actually, reading this chapter made me realise she was obviously intending to get close the prince for romantic reasons.
If I recall correctly, she claims that her spending time with the prince shows he sees her in a romantic manner, but SHE is the one who is inviting him.
This isn't isn't a mistake of manners or ignorance, she was acting in a calculative way to make a romantic stake for the prince.
I wonder if her shrugging of her education was actually a plan to claim ignorance, rather than her actually being lazy or dumb?

On another note, I do find it interesting that the Prince can't see why people would be upset about getting struck during education, or being treated as a lesser child if born to a mistress, it just makes him seem like a moron. The Saintess' grievances are reasonably valid.

"Oh, he's just detached and unable to understand normal human feelings that -"
Oh, so he's autistic? C'mon now.

 

[beThereShortly]

Seeing the story unfold from all possible point of view is trully interesting. I hadn't pegged the prince with this kind of "analytical" personality at all!

 

[AutoRedux]

I mean it's been known and stated since chapter 2 that prince Erik never considered or pursued Ani.

Because in the Seraphina chapter, he was stated to always diligently attended and their tea parties.

The only thing we are seeing new now is the actual tea party discussions he has with Seraphina where they discuss, what he is doing with Ani.

I do think he is as pure as seraphina because we see that as royalty he takes his duties seriously as the prince consort, with this background chapter of what he thinks.

Edit: though I guess his flaw is that his 2 potential aides, the idiotic knight and the dumber brother. He can't or doesn't see their flaws.

*Crown Prince. He's not a consort.

If the ruling sovereign is a male then they are a king and their spouse a queen. If the ruler is a queen then their spouse would be prince consort.

Since he's the heir apparent to the throne, he's currently the crown prince.

 

[maddery]

Been wondering about this, but where did these authors get the idea that royalties got engaged since childhood thing? Don't they only got married after they came of age?

 

[SunSun]

Which I guess might also explain why he can look at a noblewoman whose also a saint candidate and got into the noble's only school and think "this must be what commoners are like!"

She is a commoner. Her mother was a servant to her father,a baron.

It's literally explained in this chapter.

 

[SunSun]

Been wondering about this, but where did these authors get the idea that royalties got engaged since childhood thing? Don't they only got married after they came of age?

An engagement is a promise to marry, not marriage itself, if that's what you're not sure of.

 

[VooXoo]

The prince understands the world is not only what he knows, but for being a royal his interactions were limited, so he doesn't really understands that other people effort will not give them same result as his and that other nobles can be inferior in some ways.

 

[klooqy]

quite a refreshing take on a perfectly arranged marriage. whether they have actual romantic attraction to each other yet remains to be seen but it's entirely possible that that will develop in time. what they have is arguably more important in a long-term relationship of any nature: mutual respect and trust

 

[halcer]

The prince seems to be a good person but he has a level of arrogance that makes him seem distant from the others

 

[Zhangar]

She is a commoner. Her mother was a servant to her father,a baron.

It's literally explained in this chapter.

The baron's illegitimate child is still the baron's child, though. I assume that if he didn't immediately recognize her (at least for marriage alliance material), then he should have recognized her after the holy power manifested. If he didn't at all that's really weird, actually.

Aini's also so brazenly trying to manipulate the Prince that everything she says should be taken with several pinches of salt.

I assume we'll eventually get an Aini PoV and that's how we'll learn how she was actually treated.

 

[Morose]

Aini is probably the worst example of how a Commoner lives and acts.

So, the Prince is only getting the wrong info.

 

[Morose]

The prince seems to be a good person but he has a level of arrogance that makes him seem distant from the others

Well, a Ruler does need to have some amount of arrogance to be politically competent, and be distant from others to make non-biased decisions.

 

[TrapTrash1678]

Edit: though I guess his flaw is that his 2 potential aides, the idiotic knight and the dumber brother. He can't or doesn't see their flaws.
Edit: corrected to crown prince, Seraphina gives off such MC vibes he felt like a consort

He clearly sees their flaws, he even says that regarding Sauri that he is immature and it's unfair comparing him to his sister (because he knows how brilliant his sister is). He even acknowledges that compared to Seraphina, his aides are massively lacking. What he's hoping is that they MATURE OUT OF their flaws, that's what he means when he says "surely they will learn and fulfill their duties as nobles". He sees their potential, and believes in what they can accomplish, and while the idiotic knight probably was a mistake, the dumber brother, as we saw last chapter, did end up learning, maturing, and trying to improve himself so he can hold his head proud in front of his sister.

 

[ichypa]

Interesting that the prince's primary goof, if it can be considered that, is that he doesn't understand that the Saintess is attempting to seduce him.

She's so far out of his interest that it doesn't click with him that she's actively trying.

His secondary goof is assuming his future aides are as self-sufficient as he is. Which indicates he isn't really paying any attention to them to realize what they're actually like.

tbf, I think Orva could have made it if he viewed and treated Sandra with the same kind of respect that Erik does for Seraphina, since she would have helped him recognize and overcome his flaws.

 

[Amimikamoon]

tbf, I think Orva could have made it if he viewed and treated Sandra with the same kind of respect that Erik does for Seraphina, since she would have helped him recognize and overcome his flaws.

That's a bit like saying "if only he hadn't lost, he would've won!" The fact that he didn't respect Sandra is quite literally the entire reason Orva was functionally tossed to the curb.

 

[Knighto]

That's a bit like saying "if only he hadn't lost, he would've won!" The fact that he didn't respect Sandra is quite literally the entire reason Orva was functionally tossed to the curb.

we kinda get the story of Orva's parents, the dad f*ck up and has been trying to make amends, meanwhile Orva never regretted treating Sandra like dirt, I think that was the option of Orva not completely f*cking his life.

He needs competent male aides, anyway. That's how it works especially in a historical society. It's quite possible Seraphina not only has more talent in seeking other talents, but she has better opportunities as well. She might be the future queen, but for the time being, she's "just" a noble lady, whereas the prince has always been the crown prince. People, except for that airhead Aini, will behave differently in his company. Even more intelligent ones might not as easily let their true nature show, which could make the prince fail to notice the real deals. Fortunately Seraphina did, so he snatched her. I mean, you could say the prince actually did hit the real jackpot by choosing her, even if after that Seraphina has had better luck at securing talents. Other than that, he also likely simply has less time to search for excellent people.

kinda really like this view, yeah he hasn't found good aides yet, but he found the best partner at an early age, so for sure he has abilities to choose

Actually, reading this chapter made me realise she was obviously intending to get close the prince for romantic reasons.
If I recall correctly, she claims that her spending time with the prince shows he sees her in a romantic manner, but SHE is the one who is inviting him.
This isn't isn't a mistake of manners or ignorance, she was acting in a calculative way to make a romantic stake for the prince.
I wonder if her shrugging of her education was actually a plan to claim ignorance, rather than her actually being lazy or dumb?

On another note, I do find it interesting that the Prince can't see why people would be upset about getting struck during education, or being treated as a lesser child if born to a mistress, it just makes him seem like a moron. The Saintess' grievances are reasonably valid.

"Oh, he's just detached and unable to understand normal human feelings that -"
Oh, so he's autistic? C'mon now.

ahh for sure he could have the tism. BUT his point when he mention Aini being struck during education, well that's how normally the classes were for nobles, he made the example of Seraphina, like yeah it's hard education but it was part of the culture at the time and Seraphina never complained, so he will see it as tough but not something to feel bad about it.
Not empathizing about Aini being treated bad by her family... yeah, that's his noble standard 100% there, like he kinda went like why is this lesser child feeling sad for being treated as what it is, that was kinda f*ck up, a problem of the times for sure, but even Orva reacted there hahaha.

 

[CheesiBoye]

Intriguing to see how level-headed Prince Erik is being through all of this.
I keep reading his thought process through the lens of looking for hints that he's slipping up, missing a turn in his own logic that betrays his ideals and goals, but I'm not really seeing anything. It seems like he retains his faculties in a way that the other two boys didn't, and he still firmly holds to Seraphina and his engagement (and, in a sense, alliance) with her.

I suspect we'll get at least one more chapter with him, and I suspect we'll get a full(er) rundown of "the lunch incident", since we're now dealing with Erik directly and it's all centered around him. But I am intrigued by how he alone seems to be the only boy not affected by Aini in that pseudo-magical way (though I guess Bernadetta's foreign prince was also similarly resistant, for what it's worth), so I am curious of that resistance holds true, or if he starts to slip and Seraphina has to step in and "correct things".

His main problem comes from giving trust to those who didnt deserve hit. His line of needing to raise his aides might mean he'll view all the recent developments as his fault and take on blame that really isn't his. Im just worried how the story will find him new aides if they need to be the sons of the nobility. None of them are anywhere near the caliber of his fiancee or himself.

 

[maddery]

An engagement is a promise to marry, not marriage itself, if that's what you're not sure of.

That is not how royalty/noble's marriage happened in the past. No engagement like we did in modern times, no such thing as childhood engagement or engaged really, just straight up searching for spouse candidate, and if suitable matches find, it's straight up marriage afterward.

And if we are taking otome game into account, none of the love interests are taken. So why do those otome isekai insist that those love interests cheat with their non-existent fiancée?

 

[AMicrowave]

It seems the prince's flaw is that he can't understand how other people could have different points of view from him. Or rather, he can't understand how other nobles can't figure out the same things he can when they possess the same information. He's aware that Aini's perspective would be different from him because of her commoner upbringing, but his expections for Orva and Sauri were a bit too optimistic...

I wonder if the next chapter will have his best line or if they'll save that for Aini's chapters.

Spoiler: Prince's best line

She, as a last ditch effort to cling onto him, says something like "but couldn't I at least become a source of comfort to you to relieve your burdens?" And his reply is "why would I need you for that? If I feel stressed out I could just go for a walk in the gardens or pet a dog." Really refreshing to see someone in a rofan environment acknowledge that you don't need to turn to humans for "comfort" as is often the justification for infidelity in these things, you can just, like, loosen up in a normal way by indulging in your hobbies or something.

i turn to my neighbours pet cat for comfort, that cat is a chatty snuggle fiend

 

[ARealCoolGuy]

BUT his point when he mention Aini being struck during education, well that's how normally the classes were for nobles

Oh sure, but he pays attention to the lower classes because surely he wants to make sure they're alright and make changes if they're not? I wouldn't even have cared if he wanted to maintain things as they are because they provided result, rather, I'm surprised because he can't grasp WHY people are upset over being treated as lesser or from being physically punished during their education.
He brushes away her complaints and worries with; 'Oh, but X also went through that?'

So is murder fine because X noble was also murdered at some point? It really does make it look like he's got a case of the 'tism.
People don't like being physically punished, people don't like being treated as lesser, put yourself in their shoes for one moment, WHAT'S SO HARD TO GET!?
I doubt he was ever physically punished for incorrect answers, but that doesn't mean he can't understand their pain.