Casual chatting thread

[BakedBanana]

self report

Ookami-kun wa Hayakawa-san ni Katenai chapter 4

 

[Angry_Panda]

Hmmm, I think the problem is that they want to eliminate chapter threads on the forums (?)

The first time they implemented the new comments system, they called the forum comments "old comments". A dev said that having two places to comment doesn't make sense, as far as I know

XenForo (the forum software we're using now) is apparently terrible on the back end for a lot of things including moderation, at least for how MD has it implemented. From what I've seen (and bear in mind this is just my take, though I don't think I'm way off base here):

• The staff are aware the embedded comments need some work to be 'finished'/fully featured (note the 'reply' button that doesn't do anything under comments), and various design decisions may be subject to revision along the way.
• The staff are also aware there are limits to what the embedded comment system can be used for - it's not well suited to longer posts like some people make for deeper discussion. There will continue to be some role for the forum chapter/title threads, at least for the foreseeable future, and there has been zero discussion of phasing out any of the other sections. (In fact, bug reports and some other essential functions rely on the forums, so they really can't go anywhere for the time being.)
• Despite the prior point, there's no reason the vast majority of what now happens in the forum chapter/title threads couldn't be done on the embedded comments once they're more fully featured. For now, the goal seems to be to encourage the use of the embedded comments for a lot of the shorter remarks.
• Feedback is being read and considered.
• There appears to be a conscious effort to avoid rushing this. Some (much) of this may be limited man-hour resources, but I would be surprised if some wasn't an attempt to make sure that, as they move on to adding more features and building out, they don't have to backtrack because something ends up being an impediment a couple iterations down the line.
• The comment limitations (restricting chapter/title activity to a smaller group of privileged users) in place now are to allow for a limited pool of real world use as a beta, in order to work out any existing bugs and to get a feel for moderation and other administrative functions. That period will end at some point, and everyone will be able to use the new system.

The idea that the staff would be actively sabotaging the existing forums is someplace between absurd and brain-damaged, and claims that MD is somehow 'gOiNg CoRpO' have repeatedly been addressed and denied by staff. Yes, MD needs money to keep the servers up, and no, they're not getting enough via support to be able to do away with ads right now, but that's a separate issue from the site updates (like the new comment system) that have been in the works for some time.

I do think it's fair to say that communication from the staff would benefit from being more frequent and clear as to their goals, and the lack of those characteristics are contributing to a lot of rumors and fear-mongering. I also don't want to be too hard on them for falling down on this point, since a lot of the staff are volunteering their time and energy to contribute to keeping the site up and running (and have generally done an excellent job, especially in light of the average life-span of a scanlation site in the modern environment).

 

[pandascepter]

Ookami-kun wa Hayakawa-san ni Katenai chapter 4

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[pandascepter]

XenForo (the forum software we're using now) is apparently terrible on the back end for a lot of things including moderation, at least for how MD has it implemented. From what I've seen (and bear in mind this is just my take, though I don't think I'm way off base here):

• The staff are aware the embedded comments need some work to be 'finished'/fully featured (note the 'reply' button that doesn't do anything under comments), and various design decisions may be subject to revision along the way.
• The staff are also aware there are limits to what the embedded comment system can be used for - it's not well suited to longer posts like some people make for deeper discussion. There will continue to be some role for the forum chapter/title threads, at least for the foreseeable future, and there has been zero discussion of phasing out any of the other sections. (In fact, bug reports and some other essential functions rely on the forums, so they really can't go anywhere for the time being.)
• Despite the prior point, there's no reason the vast majority of what now happens in the forum chapter/title threads couldn't be done on the embedded comments once they're more fully featured. For now, the goal seems to be to encourage the use of the embedded comments for a lot of the shorter remarks.
• Feedback is being read and considered.
• There appears to be a conscious effort to avoid rushing this. Some (much) of this may be limited man-hour resources, but I would be surprised if some wasn't an attempt to make sure that, as they move on to adding more features and building out, they don't have to backtrack because something ends up being an impediment a couple iterations down the line.
• The comment limitations (restricting chapter/title activity to a smaller group of privileged users) in place now are to allow for a limited pool of real world use as a beta, in order to work out any existing bugs and to get a feel for moderation and other administrative functions. That period will end at some point, and everyone will be able to use the new system.

The idea that the staff would be actively sabotaging the existing forums is someplace between absurd and brain-damaged, and claims that MD is somehow 'gOiNg CoRpO' have repeatedly been addressed and denied by staff. Yes, MD needs money to keep the servers up, and no, they're not getting enough via support to be able to do away with ads right now, but that's a separate issue from the site updates (like the new comment system) that have been in the works for some time.

I do think it's fair to say that communication from the staff would benefit from being more frequent and clear as to their goals, and the lack of those characteristics are contributing to a lot of rumors and fear-mongering. I also don't want to be too hard on them for falling down on this point, since a lot of the staff are volunteering their time and energy to contribute to keeping the site up and running (and have generally done an excellent job, especially in light of the average life-span of a scanlation site in the modern environment).

Somehow



The jannies are always will be the front one to be asked and take a huge load of shot.

 

[bigtiddyoneesan]

windmills.

windmills, while relatively cheap compared to superior energy alternatives, are overall inefficient and unreliable. a hydroelectric dam would be many times more useful and reliable than a windmill. unfortunately, the most optimal energy sources require great resources and years of construction to implement (see nuclear reactors), which also highlights as a microcosm the general prioritization of fast and cheap solutions to long-term planning for sustainable and efficient growth.

 

[gimme_yuri_plz]

• Despite the prior point, there's no reason the vast majority of what now happens in the forum chapter/title threads couldn't be done on the embedded comments once they're more fully featured. For now, the goal seems to be to encourage the use of the embedded comments for a lot of the shorter remarks.

Again, I remember a developer saying that having two places to comment doesn't make sense. Also, when they released the first version of the feature, they referred to the forum chapter threads as "old comments." So, I'm still suspicious that they don't want these threads anymore in the future

But I think the rest of the forums are safe

 

[Angry_Panda]

Again, I remember a developer saying that having two places to comment doesn't make sense. Also, when they released the first version of the feature, they referred to the forum chapter threads as "old comments." So, I'm still suspicious that they don't want these threads anymore in the future

Right, that's why I said 'for now'. I do think the ideal long term goal is to move chapter comments over to the embedded system, but it's going to take some time to get there, and a few things I've seen lead me to believe that should the new system completely fall flat despite their efforts to make it a comparable, viable option, they're not going to be so stubborn as to force it on everyone regardless.

 

[pandascepter]

Right, that's why I said 'for now'. I do think the ideal long term goal is to move chapter comments over to the embedded system, but it's going to take some time to get there, and a few things I've seen lead me to believe that should the new system completely fall flat despite their efforts to make it a comparable, viable option, they're not going to be so stubborn as to force it on everyone regardless.

soon™

 

[BakedBanana]

The scam artist is back.

ToHeart2

 

[pandascepter]

The scam artist is back.

ToHeart2

throw her to the bed and kiss her.

"Awh"

 

[BakedBanana]

"Awh"

vore

 

[pandascepter]

vore

vore

 

[BakedBanana]

vore

For real.

ToHeart2

 

[pandascepter]

For real.

ToHeart2

Wow... Shes retarded.

 

[BakedBanana]

Y'know looking at old posts from the start of V5 made me have a thought. If I somehow traveled back in time to 2023 I don't think I could have the same energy to form these connections again. I'd probably just lurk zzzzz.

What about you guys? Anything different you folks would do if you jump started to 2023? And for the newbies, what would you do if you actually started early like the rest of your seniors?

 

[pandascepter]

seniors

senpai


wheeeezee

 

[Angry_Panda]

What about you guys? Anything different you folks would do if you jump started to 2023?

Buy AI stocks?

...

Oh, on the forums? Nah.

...well, maybe comment a bit more on chapters early on.

 

[pandascepter]

Y'know looking at old posts from the start of V5 made me have a thought. If I somehow traveled back in time to 2023 I don't think I could have the same energy to form these connections again. I'd probably just lurk zzzzz.

What about you guys? Anything different you folks would do if you jump started to 2023? And for the newbies, what would you do if you actually started early like the rest of your seniors?

Heres my 2 cents. Since you reacted something that I dont remember I posted.

I wont be doing it differently, but id want to be more active around new user on the forums. Which I regret it that i didnt do it because I myself is kinda a shy person.

 

[BakedBanana]

senpai


wheeeezee

Ookami-kun wa Hayakawa-san ni Katenai chapter 10.2

Buy AI stocks?

...

Oh, on the forums? Nah.

...well, maybe comment a bit more on chapters early on.

You wouldn't try to stop or usurp the Banana gang early on? Maybe try to save some regulars from dying?

Heres my 2 cents. Since you reacted something that I dont remember I posted.

I wont be doing it differently, but id want to be more active around new user on the forums. Which I regret it that i didnt do it because I myself is kinda a shy person.

Bro..

Ookami-kun wa Hayakawa-san ni Katenai chapter 1

 

[pandascepter]

Ookami-kun wa Hayakawa-san ni Katenai chapter 10.2

You wouldn't try to stop or usurp the Banana gang early on? Maybe try to save some regulars from dying?

Bro..

Ookami-kun wa Hayakawa-san ni Katenai chapter 1

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