GraPara! - Ch. 133 - A Sultry Night (Censored)

[jonasadan]

It's 30% shinobu wanting to get over sakura with fumi fumi isn't demanding an answer right away so he has time to sort out his feelings. I also think the theory that because fumi is good nature that she would just hand shinobu over to Sakura is wrong she is more assertive in what she wants than sakura.

Well, I decided on 50-50 because it's very clear that both of them take the initiative in 132.

 

[whorainzone]

I was also thinking about that percentage, but I decided on 80-20 because Sakura didn't reject the fuckboi's first confession.

Also slutkura went with him home, returned the kiss and fucked with him never said anything while they bashing on shinobu her boyfriend and didnt rejected him at the spot. 80-20 to 70-30 is possible.

 

[hugorito420]

I was also thinking about that percentage, but I decided on 80-20 because Sakura didn't reject the fuckboi's first confession.

Understanble but i think she only didn't reject his first confession because she was felling insecure about Shinobu and Fumi thing.

 

[whorainzone]

Understanble but i think she only didn't reject his first confession because she was felling insecure about Shinobu and Fumi thing.

Do you think she just kept an option open in case everything goes downhill? Wow didnt looked it that way. Would make slutkura even worse than she already is

 

[box2024]

I can reduce to 40% because he was really atrracted towards Fumi since her introduction, and that is diferrent from Sakura and Fuckboi.If Fumi and Shinobu can't be together is probably because he rejected her,i can't see anything different from that.

Well my prediction is that yes shinobu will ultimately end with fumi as for Sakura it's harder to tell without more information on what is between her and fuckboi but if the pattern tracks then ya she ends up with him in the end.

 

[box2024]

Do you think she just kept an option open in case everything goes downhill? Wow didnt looked it that way. Would make slutkura even worse than she already is

Sakura avoids conflict because of her family life that's why shionbu convinces her to let her pursue her career and buy all accounts she has achieved her dream of becoming an actress she is one now yet she is still lonely without shinobu to be there with her.

 

[jonasadan]

Also slutkura went with him home, returned the kiss and fucked with him never said anything while they bashing on shinobu her boyfriend and didnt rejected him at the spot. 80-20 to 70-30 is possible.

Hmmm, I don't know if I'd use what happened at the fuckboi's house as an example, in that case, it was all because the fuckboi took the initiative, but as for not standing up for Shinobu and her not rejecting the fuckboi's confession, I do agree with that

 

[hugorito420]

Well my prediction is that yes shinobu will ultimately end with fumi as for Sakura it's harder to tell without more information on what is between her and fuckboi but if the pattern tracks then ya she ends up with him in the end.

I can see that but the reason i can't make that a 100% thing of happening is because fuckboi doesn't look like he will last with Sakura.(i know i'm being too persistent about it but i don't think that guy is that interest about her and just wanted to conquer her)

I really have a big strange felling about him.His behavior during the story(mostly 128 to 131) was really like a antagonist or a villain in the story.I don't know that is only my impression or whatever this is.

 

[whorainzone]

Hmmm, I don't know if I'd use what happened at the fuckboi's house as an example, in that case, it was all because the fuckboi took the initiative, but as for not standing up for Shinobu and her not rejecting the fuckboi's confession, I do agree with that

Dont know looked more like slutkura wanted it to a certain degree. Fuckboi told her if she wants to go with him or not she went with him. She has other friends to rely on but chose fuckboi. Its random because they dont know each other at all. Just because of the proposal and the sweet talk of blondie she chose to go with fuckboi?

 

[VuongOuki]

Ever since Sakura met Kyoka and playboy, she chose to trust them over Shinobu; she chose to listen to whatever they said rather than trust her own boyfriend. In the decisive moment when she saw Fumi kissing Shinobu, she also chose to go with that playboy. She didn't want to go home, but she could have gone to the other girls' houses, couldn't she? So stop saying Sakura was forced or that she didn't want to be there.

 

[hugorito420]

Dont know looked more like slutkura wanted it to a certain degree. Fuckboi told her if she wants to go with him or not she went with him. She has other friends to rely on but chose fuckboi. Its random because they dont know each other at all. Just because of the proposal and the sweet talk of blondie she chose to go with fuckboi?

I think she just gave in to the lust tbh honest,their moment looked really like it was one sided.(i'm talking about the sex scene)

 

[whorainzone]

I think she just gave in to the lust tbh honest,their moment looked really like it was one sided.(i'm talking about the sex scene)

I can see that but the problem i see here is she never gave in to lust she came out of director and the other dumb dude. And here she just closed her eyes and let everything happen. But in other scenarios she could escape. Dont know its bad writing.

 

[box2024]

I hate myself that's why I do the things I do so I went and looked at 129 and compared it to 133 so fuck oi looks at Sakura the same way shionbu looks at fumi I don't thinks it's love BUT an infatuation which can lead to love so I doubt we have seen the last of fuckboi and Sakura.


In saying that I'm taking a break from the discussion for a bit like a few hours.

 

[MrPP118]

Fumi's only weakness is probably that she loves Shinobu too much, so bad people could take advantage of that to threaten her.

One can also argue that her love for Shinobu might be what causes her to lose in the end, if Sakura shows any signs of wanting to return to Shinobu and if Shinobu still loves her then I can see Fumi sacrificing herself to help them.

Not that I want this to happen at this stage but it wouldn't surprise me, it all depends on what happens next.

Well my prediction is that yes shinobu will ultimately end with fumi as for Sakura it's harder to tell without more information on what is between her and fuckboi but if the pattern tracks then ya she ends up with him in the end.

I think regardless of what happens with Sakura for the end of this series, she won't be with fuckboi.

He's already failed, Sakura clearly isn't as happy as she should be since she's still thinking of Shinobu, he's also been really absent which might mean he will popup later, or he discarded Sakura offscreen or he got shot behind the shed by the editors.

 

[hugorito420]

I can see that but the problem i see here is she never gave in to lust she came out of director and the other dumb dude. And here she just closed her eyes and let everything happen. But in other scenarios she could escape. Dont know its bad writing.

Most of the moments was stopped due a cockblock moment so i don't know if Sakura would go any futher if someone didn't stop her before.

 

[Wyrm666]

And you are saying that's what she had, and that it wasn't just her giving in?

No, I'm saying "It's complicated. Some people actually freeze. It's called a dissociative episode."

This manga is not that deep but between "she's a whore and she knew exactly what she was doing" and "she froze and is not responsible" there are lots of shades of grey.

Almost everybody here thinks Sakura sucks but as much as she sucks for spreading her legs to fuccboi, she sucks WAY MORE for not even talking to the guy that literally spend the previous year or so doing everything for her and to whom she owes her entire career.

 

[hugorito420]

One can also argue that her love for Shinobu might be what causes her to lose in the end, if Sakura shows any signs of wanting to return to Shinobu and if Shinobu still loves her then I can see Fumi sacrificing herself to help them.

Not that I want this to happen at this stage but it wouldn't surprise me, it all depends on what happens next.

I think Fumi only loses here if Shinobu reject her or He comeback with Sakura somehow.I can see she sacrifises her happiness for the sake of Shinobu's happiness because she really loves Shinobu.

 

[whorainzone]

He's already failed, Sakura clearly isn't as happy as she should be since she's still thinking of Shinobu, he's also been really absent which might mean he will popup later, or he discarded Sakura offscreen or he got shot behind the shed by the editors.

I dont know but she thought of shinobu because they talked about him. Its wasnt like she thought about him by herself. I reread it again and the talk went from "what happened" to "what do you feel when you do gravure modeling" and than she thought of him.

Most of the moments was stopped due a cockblock moment so i don't know if Sakura would go any futher if someone didn't stop her before.

Yeah but people here were already saying that she isnt emotionaly cracked. She knows what shes doing. She declined people who wanted to fuck her and there were moments she came out of the scenes alone. I cant tell you if its right i just started by chapter 115 ? maybe

 

[Wyrm666]

I garuntee that would cut Sakura just as deep, if not deeper.

And that's why Katsura Airi won't write that... :/

 

[SS-2010]

It's honestly part of the fun.
Think gambling on if the manga tracks with our theories or fucks us over like the potential with Nari and her impact lol

Im not over analyzing im pointing out the contrast and mirror between sakura's scene with fuckboi and shinobu's scene with fumi neither of them initiated the kiss when you compare it to Sakura and shinobu's scene you can see the difference when they have sex with someone they are in love with.

As for the one in 132, I think they both take the initiative, they both want it, unlike in the Sakuraxfuckboi situation, where the fuckboi is the one who starts everything

No because there is a reason why all four didnt talked to each other.
One was "raped" the other couple seen each other in like months for the first time again.
Makes sense, thinking the dialogue is a parallel or mirrored perspective is just overthinking. The result after shinobu and fumi is what matters and both look pretty happy and someone already explained in his pov how he sees that and i agree with him. Obviously slutkura can come back which she probably will but its bad writing. It doesnt even matter how you resolve this. And if you go with slutkura fucking fuckboi on daily basis than honestly i dont see why she should be together with shinobu. I know that shinobu probably cracked fumi once and thats it. They are even now, airi can go with the "look both slept with different person now they can go back together" but that would be trash either if she does it simply like that or IF we see slutkura being with fuckboi. Overall @box2024 is overthinking/overanalyzing everything and is blinded by his fan glasses.

I agree that the analysis of the kisses is an overanalysis; it doesn't mean anything at all. I noticed that before, Sakura's world revolved around Shinobu, but ever since she met Kyoka's group and that playboy, her world no longer revolves around him. She has been completely influenced by that crowd.

Personally, I find reading the comments more entertaining than reading the Grapara manga itself. LOL

If everyone in the world saw things the same way, society would be boring. LOL

Thinking differently is a good thing. The important thing is to avoid rudeness and verbal abuse.

I'm glad to see that @box2024 still has faith in Airi Katsura (sensei) that she's not evil and stupid while the others (including me) are suspicious and distrust her. I feel good in the same way that I see @diphuc1 and @Alsatia still has hope in the Sakura character by believing she isn't a totally bad person.

I don't really care whether there is "over-analyzing" as long as it point out things I might have overlooked. It’s like having extra pairs of eyes to help me see things more clearly. I appreciate and enjoy differing opinions.

So, thanks to everyone for sharing their views. Please keep doing it without rudeness. Thank you and thank you. LOL