Mairimashita! Iruma-kun - Ch. 453 - The Same

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seems like interesting event will happen

 

[PLInkali]

That is a hilarious reference for you to not get (or bother googling) in this context.

I'm Jewish.
Why would I know about this?

It's hilarious that you assume all people online are Christians, in 2026, in the comments of a manga written by a Jew.

 

[PLInkali]

You see, little troll, that's exactly what I mean. I never said "I´m a moron", and my response certainly didn't communicate that. or that your vocabulary was bigger than mine. You always do that: you twist what people tell you to fit your narrative, sometimes even inventing dialogues for them. You boast about being someone faithful to logic and science, yet you readily resort to the ad hominem fallacy, insulting people instead of truly engaging in dialogue. It's even sad that you use logic and still insist on ignoring variables that can't be measured; remember that in research, in addition to quantitative variables, there are qualitative ones. Are you relatively young, or do you simply have a superiority complex? Which one is it? I don't think I'll ever find out, and you'll probably use this last sentence to insult me again. Be happy little man, strive to be better; this attitude can cause you problems in real life.

If you act without thinking, you're a moron.
Beyond willful ignorance into being a troglodyte.
I saw "ad hominem" in there.
It's not ad hominem to define the word moron as "person who does not use their mind".
You said you don't. You said you only act on emotion.

You called me a troll. THAT is ad hominem. You are attempting to dismiss my arguments.

I'm not reading a wall of text with no line breaks, because it's moronic.

All you had to do was say why you chose to do something. You went aggro and lied, instead.

I don't believe you are as stupid as you say you are.

 

[DiabolusUrsus]

I'm Jewish.
Why would I know about this?

Messianic Jews exist; did you not know that? Nobody knows what specific kind of Jew you are without you sharing, so it would be bad to assume one way or the other.

Guess you have more to learn. 💁🏻‍♂️

It's hilarious that you assume all people online are Christians, in 2026, in the comments of a manga written by a Jew.

They didn't assume that, dummy. They dropped a reference making fun of you; only the people laughing at you need to recognize it.

That said, I'm an atheist anti-theist, never a Christian, didn't recognize it on first read, but understood it with 5 seconds of Google-fu.

And that's the entire point: you spent pages excoriating people for not reading/not thinking/needing to fill gaps in their knowledge and yet don't yourself practice what you screech. Instead, you prefer to make your own ignorance and confusion everyone else's problem.

I actually agree with the principle of your discussion over Azz's name, but your execution is so obnoxious and hypocritical that nobody will listen and nobody else can take your side without being discredited by mere association. If you actually hope to change minds, you need to alter your approach.

Here's some earnest, non-mocking advice:

1. Look up the Sherlock Holmes fallacy, then stop doing it.
2. Learn to conceive of how you might be wrong, even when you're confident you're not.

 

[PLInkali]

People don't know this manga Jewish as fuck... unluss they're Jewish.

They sing in Hebrew while holding Judaica and doing a not-hora at Iruma's not-bar mitzvah.

They found a nation for a marginalised group known more for intellectual pursuits than fighting, can't thrive without community, and train very specific things from a young age. There's a diagram of them gathering from the four corners of the world. Yarmuklears to fit in.
Then they throw Eliyahu's fur on Nova's back after Iruma pulls an Alter Rebbe to stop a pogrom by arm-banded racists.

"Well, there are also parallels with..." not as many.

No one knows Judaism but Jews.
And that's half the reason for antisemitism.
The other half is laziness.

The many ears arc makes me cringe at the messaging, but it's SUPER Jewish. It's (ironically) ham-fisted. Blatant, glaring.

But people "lalala 🙉🙈" at people hugging, cuddling, napping together, saying "I love you" (she drops an aishiteru) and swapping spit.
If you and your best friends do that, slay, but I think y'all might need to reevaluate if that's just a friendship.
"Will you marry me, no homo."

 

[Scribe-444179917]

Asmodeus is going to be a helicopter parent protecting Iruma when they reunited.
Gonna treat Iruma like he's made of glass and needs to make sure the world is covered in bubble wrap for his beloved, fragil human.

 

[Knighto]

I'm Jewish.
Why would I know about this?

It's hilarious that you assume all people online are Christians, in 2026, in the comments of a manga written by a Jew.

just wondering, besides the use of hebrew stuff on the series, where did you get that Osamu Nishi is a jew??

 

[PLInkali]

just wondering, besides the use of hebrew stuff on the series, where did you get that Osamu Nishi is a jew??

See above.
There are references to hasidic folktales, a preponderance of kiddush cups, holidays that are a twisting or combination of ours,

There's shit in here that only Ultra Orthodox men, most rabbis and all converts know. (Exaggerating, but not much)

Orias' office in the mafia version is just a redraw of some upscale rabbi's office. Awards and seforim and shit.

Not only do most people not know these things, you don't get them without practicing Judaism.

Jewdar is a thing, and isn't about genetics.
Thrembs went over it a bunch, already.

I'm only supposed to be making jokes, but I got curious about why someone made an uncommon choice, and they got hella triggered.

 

[PLInkali]

just wondering, besides the use of hebrew stuff on the series, where did you get that Osamu Nishi is a jew??

Basically, if you read The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe and couldn't tell that Lewis was a Christian, it would be because you didn't know anything about Christianity.

It's like that.

 

[Knighto]

See above.
There are references to hasidic folktales, a preponderance of kiddush cups, holidays that are a twisting or combination of ours,

There's shit in here that only Ultra Orthodox men, most rabbis and all converts know. (Exaggerating, but not much)

Orias' office in the mafia version is just a redraw of some upscale rabbi's office. Awards and seforim and shit.

Not only do most people not know these things, you don't get them without practicing Judaism.

Jewdar is a thing, and isn't about genetics.
Thrembs went over it a bunch, already.

I'm only supposed to be making jokes, but I got curious about why someone made an uncommon choice, and they got hella triggered.

but that's just assuming that Osamu Nishi converted, but it just shows her level of study to make the most of the references she's searching for her work.

the mafia version is done by another author (Hiroja-sensei), Nishi-sensei just shares some pointers and recommendation about the plot in relation to the main story, specially since she gave him a lot of liberty of action.

Thanks for the concise answer, as you mention she could be very well be one, or as many japanese author just get super deep on their study for their work, but one think is true, she absolutely respect Judaism a ton.
(btw not trying to be disrespectful by the doubt, but have been following the work and author for a while, so normally I would have seen a reference on the extras or the cover of the manga at least, like a comment from her)

Basically, if you read The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe and couldn't tell that Lewis was a Christian, it would be because you didn't know anything about Christianity.

It's like that.

hahaha now that's some good argument there, more inclined to believe that now. (will keep the comment above more because to share an outsider perspective as a non jewish person)

 

[PLInkali]

but that's just assuming that Osamu Nishi converted, but it just shows her level of study to make the most of the references she's searching for her work.

the mafia version is done by another author (Hiroja-sensei), Nishi-sensei just shares some pointers and recommendation about the plot in relation to the main story, specially since she gave him a lot of liberty of action.

Thanks for the concise answer, as you mention she could be very well be one, or as many japanese author just get super deep on their study for their work, but one think is true, she absolutely respect Judaism a ton.
(btw not trying to be disrespectful by the doubt, but have been following the work and author for a while, so normally I would have seen a reference on the extras or the cover of the manga at least, like a comment from her)

It's really hard to describe the difference in feel of "yay, Jews" and "yay, us".

Foe an inverskon:
Like, a couple times I've been watching a horror movie and it's have Christian themes like "the devil" or "hell" but they're getting it all wrong and the characters are speaking and acting in a certain way, and I've said "OK, this was written by a sheltered Yid." and then I check and EVERYONE behind the camera is Jewish.
"Devour" is the best example of "This writer went to day school, and had a nice life, and is trying to write about rural, white, Christian America." What a terrible film full of talented actors. Jensen Ackles doing his best to deliver lines that are supposed to have impact, but don't work in a goyish context.

hahaha now that's some good argument there, more inclined to believe that now. (will keep the comment above more because to share an outsider perspective as a non jewish person)

That's 1000% fair.
I don't blame anyone for not seeing it.
Few people spend all their free time reading hasidic self-help books from the 1800s (Shemiras HaLashon is... a lot) and watching anime.
Hyperbole, and oversimplification.

I mean, I think The Chronicles of Narnia is probably better if you don't have the source material in your brain, honestly.
Like how the Many Ears arc is pretty cringe in the context of when it was released.

Edit: There was a typo I couldn't stand.

 

[medrus_358]

If you act without thinking, you're a moron.
Beyond willful ignorance into being a troglodyte.
I saw "ad hominem" in there.
It's not ad hominem to define the word moron as "person who does not use their mind".
You said you don't. You said you only act on emotion.

You called me a troll. THAT is ad hominem. You are attempting to dismiss my arguments.

I'm not reading a wall of text with no line breaks, because it's moronic.

All you had to do was say why you chose to do something. You went aggro and lied, instead.

I don't believe you are as stupid as you say you are.

Calling you a troll is not ad hominem, you insult the person, i´m not insulting you, i´m not saying you look like one, i´m describing the way you behave on the internet. I know it´s originally in spanish, just use google translate https://dle.rae.es/trol

 

[medrus_358]

Basically, if you read The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe and couldn't tell that Lewis was a Christian, it would be because you didn't know anything about Christianity.

It's like that.

No it´s not, you can search and find information that says C.S. Lewis was christian. With Nishi Osamu there isn´t, unless you post a link of her saying she´s jewish; you´re basically dreaming about it. It´s quite ironic that in the end you let emotion govern you. You´re just hoping you have something in common with the mangaka

 

[PLInkali]

Calling you a troll is not ad hominem, you insult the person, i´m not insulting you, i´m not saying you look like one, i´m describing the way you behave on the internet. I know it´s originally in spanish, just use google translate https://dle.rae.es/trol

It's a a common fishing term. That's the where this usage originated. "Trolling" is to passively fish, while relaxing in a slow-moving boat.
Don't try to act smart about etymology if you don't know it.

No it´s not, you can search and find information that says C.S. Lewis was christian. With Nishi Osamu there isn´t, unless you post a link of her saying she´s jewish; you´re basically dreaming about it. It´s quite ironic that in the end you let emotion govern you. You´re just hoping you have something in common with the mangaka

You couldn't tell C.S. Lewis was a Christian from reading the novel???

Maybe you are as stupid as you claim to be... Hmmm. Would explain... everything? Tried to give the benefit of the doubt, but here we are.

You just don't want her to be Jewish. Which is suss.

To the ignore list with you.

 

[Calantha]

HUMAN REALM ADVENTURES LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Azz and Clara will get their bf back trust 🤞🏻

 

[medrus_358]

It's a a common fishing term. That's the where this usage originated. "Trolling" is to passively fish, while relaxing in a slow-moving boat.
Don't try to act smart about etymology if you don't know it.


You couldn't tell C.S. Lewis was a Christian from reading the novel???

Maybe you are as stupid as you claim to be... Hmmm. Would explain... everything? Tried to give the benefit of the doubt, but here we are.

You just don't want her to be Jewish. Which is suss.

To the ignore list with you.

Of course, the old you´re antisemitic trick. I´ve been really respectful and all this time with you, not only me, yet you just can´t stop being rude; i´m not blocking you, because that's what you want yet i'm reporting you, because this forum will be better without you

 

[PLInkali]

HUMAN REALM ADVENTURES LET'S GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Azz and Clara will get their bf back trust 🤞🏻

I'm so psyched.
Sad he'll have to go back there, which was hell for our would-be demon, but then we'll get a whole new serious adventure. What if the translation magic doesn't work, and they have to learn Japanese?
What if they don't pop out in Japan?
What if they don't put him back in Japan?
What happens to Ali?
Who comes out ahead the most?
How bad does Baal mess crap up?
Does Merize help?

I love it when I don't know where this manga is going, and I'm pretty good at predicting, and it's all Thrembs does at me lol.

 

[loquendo919]

With the power of friendship and hopefully a gun they can beat anything

 

[DANdLIONTEch]

God damn bros someone hold me in sad, dont worry no homo bros

 

[Swagner]

I'm Jewish.
Why would I know about this?

It's hilarious that you assume all people online are Christians, in 2026, in the comments of a manga written by a Jew.

Not to beat a dead horse, but other people don't seem to struggle understanding as badly as you do.

They didn't assume that, dummy. They dropped a reference making fun of you; only the people laughing at you need to recognize it.

That said, I'm an atheist anti-theist, never a Christian, didn't recognize it on first read, but understood it with 5 seconds of Google-fu.

And that's the entire point: you spent pages excoriating people for not reading/not thinking/needing to fill gaps in their knowledge and yet don't yourself practice what you screech. Instead, you prefer to make your own ignorance and confusion everyone else's problem.

Yeah, to be clear, while I was raised religious I'm hella atheist now. It's just that it's a super common aphorism for "judge not, lest ye be judged" throughout the english-speaking world, to the point that it's basically the only thing that comes up if you search those two words. Which you would know if you ever followed your own advice.

Like between the condescension and insistence that everyone else "needs to do their homework" and defending your own ignorance, by the time you get to "you'd know Osamu Nishi were jewish if you knew more about judaism" it comes out sounding a little more like: