Kusunoki-san wa Koukou Debut ni Shippai Shite Iru - Ch. 56 - Her absence has left me feeling strangely off

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thanks for chapter

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what if Kusunoki is not the heroine, as u see, she has the tear mole! which often are used on characters with messy passionate never lasting relationships.
 
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Ahh yes I was comparing her to a serial killer, and not just using it as a point to say "Things that are interesting are not necessarily good". You people seem to like misinterpreting things to fit your agenda. Weird how this always seems to happen with the snake defense force.
And it was a terrible comparison which compares a fictional mean high school girl to real life serial killers, are you insane here? She isn't even that bad of a person and it's fiction, or are you too insane to understand that.

She owes Moe and Kusunoki nothing since she isn't either of their friends, Kusunoki did owe Moe the truth about her being in love with Keisuke though, which she didn't tell her though, so maybe Kusunoki should be compared to psychopaths and serial killers. Maybe you should be compared to serial killers, since we're just comparing stuff to make a point.
 
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And it was a terrible comparison which compares a fictional mean high school girl to real life serial killers, are you insane here? She isn't even that bad of a person and it's fiction, or are you too insane to understand that.

She owes Moe and Kusunoki nothing since she isn't either of their friends, Kusunoki did owe Moe the truth about her being in love with Keisuke though, which she didn't tell her though, so maybe Kusunoki should be compared to psychopaths and serial killers. Maybe you should be compared to serial killers, since we're just comparing stuff to make a point.
Again you are just misinterpreting my intentions. It is not to compare her to a serial killer. It is to compare the fact that things being interesting does not make them good. I even spelled that out to you. Do I need to type it in japanese?

興味深いことが、必ずしも好ましいとは限らない

Is that easier for you to comprehend?
 
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Snake goddess🙏
People need to read https://mangadex.org/title/cf1c93cc...suga-osananajimi-o-suki-ni-natteshimaimashita if they want to see what an actual irredeemable pos heroine looks like.
I'd disagree with that.

I think that Ayami is a better person than Hebikawa in just about every possible way.

The key is that Ayami actually cares. She became sincere friends with Hikari. Hebikawa, meanwhile, is just faking being friends with Kusunoki so that she can get her to let down her guard so that she can hurt her. Ayami didn't set out to hurt Hikari - it just ended up that way. Hebikawa very deliberately set out specifically to hurt Kusunoki.

Ayami got involved with Shuu in the first place completely oblivious to the fact that Hikari even knew him. Hebikawa not only knows that Kusunoki knows Shizuki - she knows that she's attracted to him, and that's the exact point as far as she's concerned. She had no interest in Shizuki as a person - she started pursuing him solely to hurt Kusunoki.

And most of what's going on now - Ayami is lost and trapped because she's mired in guilt and remorse for what she's done to Hikari and to Shuu. Hebikawa, meanwhile, has never felt a single ounce of guilt or remorse for anything she's ever done. Even now that she's aware of the fact that she's catching feelings for Shizuki, she still feels absolutely no remorse at all for what she did to him in middle school.

Yami is genuinely fucked up and knows it, and is trying (and all too often failing) to not hurt other people. Hebikawa is just a self-absorbed, dishonest cunt who capriciously and deliberately tries to hurt people.

I would say that if one of the two of them is redeemable, it's Ayami, since at least she understands how it is that she's hurt people and she genuinely cares and doesn't want to hurt them. Hebikawa, on the other hand, is deliberately trying to hurt people and enjoying it when she does.
 
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Or 90% of the people commenting are rampant shitposters trying to cop internet points for having an edge take.
No, I'm right. The other two haven't had anything interesting happen yet, it's weird because the basis is there especially for the lead heroine. She's supposed to be an Otaku who turned her appearance around for highschool but we barely see that come into play.

The snake is incredibly active and dynamic in comparison, she's clearly from a broken home and has had some bad experiences. She's so against the idea of purity and goodness that she's horrified by the idea that she's wrong so she's actively choosing to be villainous to prove to herself that she's not a bad person but a normal one. She's clearly incredibly arrogant and clearly a horrible person but she's also the most interesting person in the manga. She has a lot more going on for her compared to the other two who are more stereotypical cutesy moe anime girls.
 
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Again you are just misinterpreting my intentions. It is not to compare her to a serial killer. It is to compare the fact that things being interesting does not make them good. I even spelled that out to you. Do I need to type it in japanese?

興味深いことが、必ずしも好ましいとは限らない

Is that easier for you to comprehend?
Again, I get it, and I'm comparing you to pedophile serial killers, it is to suggest that your constant attacks on a high school girl is similar to how pedophile serial killers behave.

Don't take it personally dude, it's just a comparison.
 
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Again you are just misinterpreting my intentions. It is not to compare her to a serial killer. It is to compare the fact that things being interesting does not make them good. I even spelled that out to you. Do I need to type it in japanese?

興味深いことが、必ずしも好ましいとは限らない

Is that easier for you to comprehend?
And also, serial killers are 100% more fun in fiction than no personality characters
 
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Omg THESE PEOPLE ARE ARGUING THAT A HURRICANE IS THE BEST WEATHER. I CAN'T MAN I FUCKING CAN'T. SDF IS GONNA AIR STRIKE US.... BAIL BAIL!
It's become very clear after all your comments that you are incapable of differentiating between reality and fiction. I don't want to bully a mentay handicapped person anymore, so I won't reply to you anymore, I'm better than that.
 
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You will see more people watching a hurricane on TV for entertainment than a sunny day though.
Right, but that has absolutely nothing at all to do with my point.

Yes - there's a bare handful of people on these threads who make the valid point that Hebikawa is interesting and that she adds a layer of complication to the story. But that's not what I'm talking about.

I didn't use the word "simping" by accident - I used it because that's what the majority of these threads really are - just a bunch of people simping for Hebikawa. And that's the thing I don't get at all. I don't see a single thing about her that's appealing - on the contrary, she's repulsive in just about every possible way. And yet every one of these threads is inevitably filled with some variation on "Snek best girl."

Why? Are the Mangadex forums somehow filled with masochists who are actually attracted to the idea of a vicious, self-absorbed, manipulative cunt who's going to only make them suffer for her own amusement? Is that something that they actually want? I can't imagine that that's actually the case, but these threads consistently indicate that it is.

And thus they consistently make me think, "What the fuck?" Thus my response.
 
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I'd disagree with that.

I think that Ayami is a better person than Hebikawa in just about every possible way.

The key is that Ayami actually cares. She became sincere friends with Hikari. Hebikawa, meanwhile, is just faking being friends with Kusunoki so that she can get her to let down her guard so that she can hurt her. Ayami didn't set out to hurt Hikari - it just ended up that way. Hebikawa very deliberately set out specifically to hurt Kusunoki.

Ayami got involved with Shuu in the first place completely oblivious to the fact that Hikari even knew him. Hebikawa not only knows that Kusunoki knows Shizuki - she knows that she's attracted to him, and that's the exact point as far as she's concerned. She had no interest in Shizuki as a person - she started pursuing him solely to hurt Kusunoki.

And most of what's going on now - Ayami is lost and trapped because she's mired in guilt and remorse for what she's done to Hikari and to Shuu. Hebikawa, meanwhile, has never felt a single ounce of guilt or remorse for anything she's ever done. Even now that she's aware of the fact that she's catching feelings for Shizuki, she still feels absolutely no remorse at all for what she did to him in middle school.

Yami is genuinely fucked up and knows it, and is trying (and all too often failing) to not hurt other people. Hebikawa is just a self-absorbed, dishonest cunt who capriciously and deliberately tries to hurt people.

I would say that if one of the two of them is redeemable, it's Ayami, since at least she understands how it is that she's hurt people and she genuinely cares and doesn't want to hurt them. Hebikawa, on the other hand, is deliberately trying to hurt people and enjoying it when she does.
Ayami almost got Hikari raped, no matter what you say now is worthless with how you said that a girl who setup an innocent girl to get raped as a joke is worse than a average mean girl. How has anything Hebikawa done come even 5% as bad as that? You're genuinely psychopathic to even say that. Ayami did other awful stuff too, knowing that she did bad doesn't do anything at all.

Hebikawa's worst action has been what? Insulting Keisuke behind his back in Middle School? Bad but hardly anything to cry about, everyone did that with him and they weren't even close. Flirting with Keisuke in front of Kusunoki and Moe? So what? They aren't dating him, she's allowed to do that. Telling Moe that Kusunoki likes Keisuke? Everyone knows that, literally everyone who knows them knows that they like each other, and Kusunoki should've told Moe earlier anyways.
 
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Right, but that has absolutely nothing at all to do with my point.

Yes - there's a bare handful of people on these threads who make the valid point that Hebikawa is interesting and that she adds a layer of complication to the story. But that's not what I'm talking about.

I didn't use the word "simping" by accident - I used it because that's what the majority of these threads really are - just a bunch of people simping for Hebikawa. And that's the thing I don't get at all. I don't see a single thing about her that's appealing - on the contrary, she's repulsive in just about every possible way. And yet every one of these threads is inevitably filled with some variation on "Snek best girl."

Why? Are the Mangadex forums somehow filled with masochists who are actually attracted to the idea of a vicious, self-absorbed, manipulative cunt who's going to only make them suffer for her own amusement? Is that something that they actually want? I can't imagine that that's actually the case, but these threads consistently indicate that it is.

And thus they consistently make me think, "What the fuck?" Thus my response.
It looks like you're projecting your own insecurity on this fictional girl, try to get help with your problems from a professional instead of losing your shit on manga comment sections, Hebikawa isn't real, she can't hurt you, the girl who did hurt you to make you like this isn't Hebikawa.
 
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Hebikawa being an antagonist, and somehow getting glazed more than Aizen is honestly the weirdest thing about these comments. I like her contributions to the story, but I hate the glaze and the snake shitposts in every chapters comments section. The biggest defense people have been using is "She has not done much". What is the excuse now? Can't wait for the snake defense force to come up with a new defense mechanism for their weird bully fetish.
I do not understand the need to defend the awful persona tha snake-chan is, just like her because she awful i do it because she is like the way she is and that is fine, do not confuse what justification with explanation
 

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