Honzuki no Gekokujou: Shisho ni Naru tame ni wa Shudan o Erandeiraremasen—Dai-4 Bu: Kizokuin no Toshokan o Sukuitai! - Ch. 43 - A Guard Knight At The…

[MangaDex]

 

[irumichwaan]

Hug my baby Angelica 🫂

 

[xanon]

Witness my most powerful escape technique: Hand on cheek!

 

[damadicius]

Girl be min-maxxing the str/dex/cha stat

 

[pi321]

Girl be min-maxxing the str/dex/cha stat

The hand on cheek move is def cha based. She used INT as her dump stat lol

 

[dragonstar457]

Angelica is one of my favorite of rozemynes retainers in the series. She may have messed up here but she wasnt the only one who messed up badly. Damuel, despite lecturing her, was also severely in the wrong for his response as well. Angelica reacted to a percieved threat and got talked into leaving despite neither her mistress, fellow guard, or magic talking sword telling her that she shouldnt have left. Damuel on the other hand didnt react at all to ferdinands threat and that made him a failure too since this is a similar situation that caused him to get punished with demotion to begin with.

 

[hierof]

Angelica is one of my favorite of rozemynes retainers in the series. She may have messed up here but she wasnt the only one who messed up badly. Damuel, despite lecturing her, was also severely in the wrong for his response as well. Angelica reacted to a percieved threat and got talked into leaving despite neither her mistress, fellow guard, or magic talking sword telling her that she shouldnt have left. Damuel on the other hand didnt react at all to ferdinands threat and that made him a failure too since this is a similar situation that caused him to get punished with demotion to begin with.

tbf, Damuel already learnt that despite the constant of Ferdinand's thinly veiled threats levied against myne, he knows its just that, words. he also knows why ferdinand is so hard towards myne, as to prepare her for the high society, especially as she mingles with other archdukes candidates of higher status/rank and royalties. so ferdi keep prodding and testing myne to ensure that she doesn't crack under pressure.

as for angelica, she is inexperience and naive, befitting since she is still an apprentice knight. even tho cornelius had warned her, she is, for lack of better words, too simple and pure that someone like ferdi still able to manipulate her easily even when warned against.

 

[dragonstar457]

tbf, Damuel already learnt that despite the constant of Ferdinand's thinly veiled threats levied against myne, he knows its just that, words. he also knows why ferdinand is so hard towards myne, as to prepare her for the high society, especially as she mingles with other archdukes candidates of higher status/rank and royalties. so ferdi keep prodding and testing myne to ensure that she doesn't crack under pressure.

as for angelica, she is inexperience and naive, befitting since she is still an apprentice knight. even tho cornelius had warned her, she is, for lack of better words, too simple and pure that someone like ferdi still able to manipulate her easily even when warned against.

The issue here is that ferdinands words dont matter as much. As soon as ferdinand actually drew his schtappe then Damuel had to react. Whether or not ferdinand actually meant to attack isnt something Damuel, as rozemynes guard knight, should assume. Also we all know ferdinand doesnt make empty threats he doesnt intend to follow through with. So if he said he would blast her to make her drop her reinforcement he will do something damuel should move to protect her from. Ferdinands reasons, rationalizations, and justifations are literally not Damuels jobs to determine. Unless rozemyne explicitly directed him to stay back he should have been right there with angelica as soon as ferdinand threatened rozemyne and drew his schtappe. Only after Ferdinand puts his schtappe away and/or rozemyne orders them to move should they move away.

Angelica may have messed up but Damuel made a equally large misstep.

 

[ArcLife]

 

[wakanana]

It's always nice to get into Angelica's head. Curious things happen there.

Somewhere in the LN's or the short story collections, there is a chapter from Angelica's POV in which we learn that she knows every time people get frustrated with her or give up on her mid-conversation, and that it always hurts her feelings. 😭

 

[nikutameruraput]

Angelica is such a cinnamon bun.

 

[wakanana]

The issue here is that ferdinands words dont matter as much. As soon as ferdinand actually drew his schtappe then Damuel had to react. Whether or not ferdinand actually meant to attack isnt something Damuel, as rozemynes guard knight, should assume. Also we all know ferdinand doesnt make empty threats he doesnt intend to follow through with. So if he said he would blast her to make her drop her reinforcement he will do something damuel should move to protect her from. Ferdinands reasons, rationalizations, and justifations are literally not Damuels jobs to determine. Unless rozemyne explicitly directed him to stay back he should have been right there with angelica as soon as ferdinand threatened rozemyne and drew his schtappe. Only after Ferdinand puts his schtappe away and/or rozemyne orders them to move should they move away.

Angelica may have messed up but Damuel made a equally large misstep.

Reading the room and understanding context is important when it comes to unsheathing a sword. Damuel knows Ferdinand is no enemy.

But if we're going to talk about this stuff, you know who really fucked up? Wilfried's knight, Lamprecht, when Ferdinand roped his Lord at the temple and threatened him with raising up his siblings against him. Lamprecht is intolerably passive throughout the series.

 

[thanghe]

I see Angelica isn't stupid at all. In fact, she's quite sharp.
The reason she's so bad at anything non-knight is that she just doesn't care enough

 

[AlmondMagnum]

The issue here is that ferdinands words dont matter as much. As soon as ferdinand actually drew his schtappe then Damuel had to react. Whether or not ferdinand actually meant to attack isnt something Damuel, as rozemynes guard knight, should assume. Also we all know ferdinand doesnt make empty threats he doesnt intend to follow through with. So if he said he would blast her to make her drop her reinforcement he will do something damuel should move to protect her from. Ferdinands reasons, rationalizations, and justifations are literally not Damuels jobs to determine. Unless rozemyne explicitly directed him to stay back he should have been right there with angelica as soon as ferdinand threatened rozemyne and drew his schtappe. Only after Ferdinand puts his schtappe away and/or rozemyne orders them to move should they move away.

Angelica may have messed up but Damuel made a equally large misstep.

Very debatable. It's like, an adult forcing a child to get into a car? Bad, do something about it. But what if it's a father forcing his child to go to the doctor? Here, it's the same thing. Ferdinand, Rozemyne's guardian, forcing Rozemyne to submit to a medical examination. And it's important to know the difference when you're serving a child. It's why Karstedt and Rihyarda actively captured Sylvester when he was a child running away from his education instead of aiding and abetting his escapes.

 

[dragonstar457]

Very debatable. It's like, an adult forcing a child to get into a car? Bad, do something about it. But what if it's a father forcing his child to go to the doctor? Here, it's the same thing. Ferdinand, Rozemyne's guardian, forcing Rozemyne to submit to a medical examination. And it's important to know the difference when you're serving a child. It's why Karstedt and Rihyarda actively captured Sylvester when he was a child running away from his education instead of aiding and abetting his escapes.

If that was the case then Angelica didnt mess up at all. If anything she corrected herself from interfering with Ferdinand and Damuel was 100% wrong to lecture her even if she was tricked by the Ferdinand.
In anycase if Ferdinand had just stuck to words and grabbed her to keep her from escaping then her guards interfering wouldnt be appropriate unless he started actively trying to harm her beyond what their relationship usually allowed. Drawing his schtappe and threatening to blast her escalated it beyond what im guessing is acceptable. if he said he would bind her and tie her to a chair its different from threatening to literally blast her to get her to drop the reinforcement.
Ferdinand was a bit impressed that Angelica had the drive to draw her weapon on him in defense of her charge even if she then messed up because he distracted her. He would only have disdain for her if her doing so wasnt appropriate and he would have stated as such.

Reading the room and understanding context is important when it comes to unsheathing a sword. Damuel knows Ferdinand is no enemy.

But if we're going to talk about this stuff, you know who really fucked up? Wilfried's knight, Lamprecht, when Ferdinand roped his Lord at the temple and threatened him with raising up his siblings against him. Lamprecht is intolerably passive throughout the series.

Except in this case Ferdinand literally and explicitly threatened to use his weapon to attack rozemyne if she didnt do what he wanted. He may have stated his blast would only be strong enough to get her to drop her reinforcment but Damuel, as a guard knight, shouldnt rely on his words after he drew his schtappe. Binding someone and tying them to a chair could be viewed as harsh education for a recalcitrant child and isnt likely viewed as excessive. Talking about raising his siblings to overthrow wilfried also isnt out of line and is something that is common in noble politics. However if ferdinand had threatened to actually attack wilfried lamprecht would have been duty-bound to intervene to protect his lord.

 

[yetanothergeek]

We don`t get enough Angelica chapters, they are all great.

 

[Shortstos]

Shes a lot stupid, but shes earnest and willing to put in the work to perfect her one area of expertise. Im just glad Mynes on her side to guide her to that point so she wont be abandoned by her family and society.

 

[Hicleric]

I do not have enough arms for all the headpats I want to hand out this chapter

Angelica's POV is certainly deeper than you'd think from her appearance in the main story. Would have been nice to hear Stenluke's opinion on all the goings on.

Friendship with the grey priests seems like a risky proposition, as even in the temple the difference in function and status would get in the way. But I can see some adorable tea parties in the future

 

[Shortstos]

If that was the case then Angelica didnt mess up at all. If anything she corrected herself from interfering with Ferdinand and Damuel was 100% wrong to lecture her even if she was tricked by the Ferdinand.
In anycase if Ferdinand had just stuck to words and grabbed her to keep her from escaping then her guards interfering wouldnt be appropriate unless he started actively trying to harm her beyond what their relationship usually allowed. Drawing his schtappe and threatening to blast her escalated it beyond what im guessing is acceptable. if he said he would bind her and tie her to a chair its different from threatening to literally blast her to get her to drop the reinforcement.
Ferdinand was a bit impressed that Angelica had the drive to draw her weapon on him in defense of her charge even if she then messed up because he distracted her. He would only have disdain for her if her doing so wasnt appropriate and he would have stated as such.

There is a difference here though in Angelicas failure. Its a medical exam meaning only the doctor and in Mynes case female attendants, scholars and knights can be present. Angelica going off on Ferdinands suggestion means that while the medical exam is going on she won't have a guard knight present, the exact reason and scenario that is allowing Angelica, despite not having graduated, to be on guard duty. if during the exam Ferdinand did decide to harm her there is no one present to protect her. Damuel as a male has to be out of the room and everyone else present is a Gray maiden.

 

[niteman555]

This is one my favorite episodes in the series. Angelica is too easy to write off as an idiot, but she's her own person and it's great that the author lets us in to see that