Kusunoki-san wa Koukou Debut ni Shippai Shite Iru - Ch. 59.2 - Otobe is definitely acting weird today (Part 2)

[mrboxeater]

dont even know how this manga is gonna progress. Just gonna be snake and otobe sitting in the chair waiting for the boring Kuso to confess unless the authors gonna add more girls or something

 

[kaijuwega]

Otobe truly died with her boots on this chapter, and that's pretty damn admirable. Also kudos to Shizuki for both not leading Otobe on and having enough sense to let her and Kusunoki have a girl's night out and let Otobe lick her wounds, poor thing.

Good Golly would I love to see the snake in a kimono. Don't wuss out on us, author-chan.

 

[Zersh]

Its never been more over for otobe.😭 the other girls better step up now I don't want to see 30 more chapters of fumbling💢💢💢.

 

[magical_mashi]

Good for her that he’s outright rejected her so they can move on, no dragging out for shit and giggles. (I’m picking that controller up don’t worry)

 

[jojoka]

Only if you're an uppity snek fan who can only mock other characters and strike other people's posts without bringing any viable discussion to the table.

More like the fact snake has a personality while our lead girl has none. She's meant to be a secret otaku but that has been irrelevant since the start. If anything I want the author needs to spend the next 10 or so chapters fixing her and making her half as interesting as the snake. Im not even on team snake tbh I just want her around more than the heroine because she's the better character.
I think this is kinda a really mid romance manga NGL it's carried hard by the art.

 

[Ragnolock]

More like the fact snake has a personality while our lead girl has none. She's meant to be a secret otaku but that has been irrelevant since the start. If anything I want the author needs to spend the next 10 or so chapters fixing her and making her half as interesting as the snake. Im not even on team snake tbh I just want her around more than the heroine because she's the better character.
I think this is kinda a really mid romance manga NGL it's carried hard by the art.

I think my son's finger paintings have a lot of personality. Does that make them pieces of fine art? Absolutely not. If her only personality trait is being a dick to everyone around her, she isn't a complex character she's just a bad painting. Slapping a cool character design on her doesn't make her well- written. You snake simps are just sticking a golden frame around a toddler's scribble and calling it a masterpiece.

 

[MrPP118]

More like the fact snake has a personality while our lead girl has none. She's meant to be a secret otaku but that has been irrelevant since the start. If anything I want the author needs to spend the next 10 or so chapters fixing her and making her half as interesting as the snake. Im not even on team snake tbh I just want her around more than the heroine because she's the better character.
I think this is kinda a really mid romance manga NGL it's carried hard by the art.

Hebikawa is interesting but I think alot of the hype is overdone and I certainly don't find Kusunoki boring and I'm enjoying seeing how Kusunoki and Keisuke interact.

 

[FatUglyCrazyKid]

I know manga isn't supposed to be a goody-two-shoes contest but I'm really touched by how kind-hearted all three of the characters are.

Otobe is aware of the triangle. She knows this situation couldn't go on for ever and she worries whether this would have an impact on the trio's friendship. However, she can't let go of her feelings.

Author throws us this false intel that Otobe is about to be selfish and hog Keisuke all by herself and go on the attack with her hand-holding and stuff. Then it's revealed that she's actually made up her mind to self-implode by confessing, facing the inevitable L and forcing herself to give up her own feelings, freeing them from the triangle. The initial "selfishness" then is then revealed to be her attempt to savour that last moment of happiness with Keisuke before her bubble was burst.

Keisuke was very straightforward with the rejection as all responsible MCs should be, but when Otobe offers to give him and Kusunoki some alone time he decisively turns this potential d!ck move down. Not only is it incredibly selfish, it would add insult to Otobe's selfless injury. And he THEN decides to give Kusunoki to her instead since she'd be the best consolation at that moment, showing he truly values Otobe as a friend and prioritizes her needs over his own despite not loving her in that way.

The emotional maturity of the main cast is almost too good to be true lol. I felt like Otobe didn't have to prematurely sacrifice herself that way however, as I felt like with all three being such good people they would have found a way to work past the situation later anyway even despite Kusunoki's past trauma.

Anyways, the way both Otobe and Keisuke selflessly acted basically the OPPOSITE of what both the boy and the girl who gave her the trauma did, I'm sure Kusunoki's trauma would be cured in no time since she realizes the outcome depends on the parties involved, and also depends on active communication like Keisuke and Otobe are doing. Hopefully this helps her to 1. Stop blaming herself (because Keisuke and Otobe existing serves as counter-examples to prove that it was mainly her friends being a-holes) and 2. Stop being a doormat, starts actively communicating instead of avoiding the situation (because Keisuke and Otobe proves active communication might "feel" confrontational but will end up reducing the harm in the long run).

 

[Kromwulf]

Otobe is the best girl in the manga, sucks that she never had a chance

 

[UdenEmpati]

I think my son's finger paintings have a lot of personality. Does that make them pieces of fine art? Absolutely not. If her only personality trait is being a dick to everyone around her, she isn't a complex character she's just a bad painting. Slapping a cool character design on her doesn't make her well- written. You snake simps are just sticking a golden frame around a toddler's scribble and calling it a masterpiece.

I thought you weren't going to get into it with "snake-glazers"? Or is it because they said they weren't 'team snake' that you consider it a loophole of some sort? At least follow through when you declare you're going to do something, because that lack of resolve is pretty Hebikawa-coded from where I'm sitting.

 

[hatty54]

It’s better than harem and no real romance

 

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

Dang, Keisuke ripped the Band-Aid off swiftly... Good. I think it's better this way for everyone involved. At least Otobe can act as a wingwoman now and protect them from Hebikawa's poison. One down, you're next, Hebikawa! Can't wait for Hebikawa to get rejected when she eventually tries to make her move.

Thanks for the chapter!

Hebikawa already got rejected though, and the second, honest confession, if it even happens, will be probably near the end of manga. She didn't even admit to herself she likes him for real, so she's in the "make him fall in love and confess to me" stage, and she won't move to another stage any time soon.

Especially since she knows that until something changes, his answer will be the same as last time, so she will only confess if as a desperate last resort action, or if their relationship grows to the stage where she feels she can ask him again - which, if happens, will be long time from now.

 

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

I think my son's finger paintings have a lot of personality. Does that make them pieces of fine art? Absolutely not. If her only personality trait is being a dick to everyone around her, she isn't a complex character she's just a bad painting. Slapping a cool character design on her doesn't make her well- written. You snake simps are just sticking a golden frame around a toddler's scribble and calling it a masterpiece.

You're using personality in your example of paining in inapplicable way, "personality" of paining can be different from its artistic value depending of definition, but personality of fictional character is basic requirement of writing a character. In other words, character with personality is better written than character without personality, just like actual drawing of a person is better art than drawing a stick-man. Even if Hebikawa is a bad painting, she's at least more than a scribble.

Hebikawa's personality isn't just being a dick, she's shown to be vulnerable due to her family situation, and she has conflict between her worldview and reality of kind people actually existing. And her dealing with creepy step-dad (well, mom's boyfriend) was ballsy, if foolish. Also I don't know anyone who calls her character a masterpiece, it's just that most of the manga writing is pretty mediocre (though that's already above average, considering how badly most romance manga is written), and Hebikawa's inclusion and design is the only part that make it interesting. MC and Kusunoki romance is boring and full of annoying tropes like falling into kiss or lack of communication, Kusunoki is way too perfect, and Otobe is unfortunately too much of a side character.

 

[the_Bear_from_Bearcave]

Hebikawa is interesting but I think alot of the hype is overdone and I certainly don't find Kusunoki boring and I'm enjoying seeing how Kusunoki and Keisuke interact.

Kusunoki needs to be written in more conflicts, the love triangle is one, but it's not nearly enough. I hope author will write some more developments between her and Hebikawa now that girls are all together in one class.

Also hopefully tomboy's sacrifice will put her out of stupid ideas like ghosting Keisuke after some romantic-like event. That was the worst.

 

[jojoka]

I think my son's finger paintings have a lot of personality. Does that make them pieces of fine art? Absolutely not. If her only personality trait is being a dick to everyone around her, she isn't a complex character she's just a bad painting. Slapping a cool character design on her doesn't make her well- written. You snake simps are just sticking a golden frame around a toddler's scribble and calling it a masterpiece.

Your sons finger paintings arent written characters. The lead girl has zero personality, this is a flaw of the story, the author needs to fix this.
The snake isn't like a top 10 written character of all time but she's better written than anyone else in the manga by a massive margin.
All I'm saying is that the rest of the cast should be brought up to this level but you can't comprehend that and just want to consume slop

 

[jojoka]

Hebikawa is interesting but I think alot of the hype is overdone and I certainly don't find Kusunoki boring and I'm enjoying seeing how Kusunoki and Keisuke interact.

She's really boring, the only time she slightly stands out is when tied to the MC. Hebikawa has intrigue outside of him.
Kununoki is just a paper sheet good girl people can get body pillows of she's so vanilla. If she was actually like a genuine socially rejected otaku who is desperately trying to make herself seem like a normie good girl and she was struggling through it constantly then she'd be able to exist outside of Keisuke. But she isn't.
To put it simply.
If Hebikawa wasn't a love interest and a side character she would still be interesting.
If Kununoki wasn't a love interest and a side character no one would remember her name.

 

[MrPP118]

She's really boring, the only time she slightly stands out is when tied to the MC. Hebikawa has intrigue outside of him.
Kununoki is just a paper sheet good girl people can get body pillows of she's so vanilla. If she was actually like a genuine socially rejected otaku who is desperately trying to make herself seem like a normie good girl and she was struggling through it constantly then she'd be able to exist outside of Keisuke. But she isn't.
To put it simply.
If Hebikawa wasn't a love interest and a side character she would still be interesting.
If Kununoki wasn't a love interest and a side character no one would remember her name.

That's your view and if you want to think that way fine, I honestly don't care that Kusunoki is vanilla and I don't think Hebikawa is that much intrigue.

 

[nihaoma11]

thanks for the chapter

 

[jojoka]

That's your view and if you want to think that way fine, I honestly don't care that Kusunoki is vanilla and I don't think Hebikawa is that much intrigue.

Shes not vanilla tbh, vanilla has a taste, shes more like pure gelatine.

 

[MrPP118]

Shes not vanilla tbh, vanilla has a taste, shes more like pure gelatine.

I don't think that's really the case.