Dare ga Yuusha o Koroshita ka - Vol. 1 Ch. 2 - Leon - Fragment 1

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What's the point of this story, just to clarify for all the other manga authors what a hero is, unlike the junk we see about harems and exiles and blabla?
If so that's fine I guess.
 
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What's the point of this story, just to clarify for all the other manga authors what a hero is, unlike the junk we see about harems and exiles and blabla?
If so that's fine I guess.
It's a mystery story. The princess is investigating why the hero died after the defeat of the demon king and is currently conducting interviews of the party.
 
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Just read the WN, it's short, but i really liked it. The twist and the progress to uncover the truth are very good even though the story is not that deep. I heard the LN is expanding the story, but even without that it's a decent, one of the better ones in the "Hero" genre IMO.

Let me know if someone wants some spoilers...
 
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I'm guessing that the hero isn't the actual prophecied hero. That's his sick little sister or something. He went in their place to spare them from the burden.
 
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Just read the WN, it's short, but i really liked it. The twist and the progress to uncover the truth are very good even though the story is not that deep. I heard the LN is expanding the story, but even without that it's a decent, one of the better ones in the "Hero" genre IMO.

Let me know if someone wants some spoilers...
Oh I sure do want me some spoilers!
 
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I'm guessing that the hero isn't the actual prophecied hero. That's his sick little sister or something. He went in their place to spare them from the burden.

the hero is the hero, but the hero is already dead years before the story begins, but who is Ares?
He is the hero's childhood friend, after the properchy was told, they traveled together to the academy,
then they ecounter a demon, the original hero was fatally wounded and Ares delivered a final blow to ease his suffering,
Ares feels guilty for his friend, then he shoulder the responsiblity of the hero
 
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the hero is the hero, but the hero is already dead years before the story begins, but who is Ares?
He is the hero's childhood friend, after the properchy was told, they traveled together to the academy,
then they ecounter a demon, the original hero was fatally wounded and Ares delivered a final blow to ease his suffering,
Ares feels guilty for his friend, then he shoulder the responsiblity of the hero
Adding onto this (from the LN, not sure how much the WN differs):
His childhood friend is his cousin Zack. Zack's parents were adventurers who went to help one of the kingdoms that's being invaded by the demon army and left Zack in Ares' parents care. Ares was actually pretty gifted, being able to learn swordsmanship, attack magic, and healing just by practice. On the other hand, Zack was inferior to Ares in swordsmanship and was never able to learn magic while at the village. Zack had more determination/grit/tenacity than Ares while learning and that inspired Ares to continue honing his skills.

The prophecy doesn't specifically state who the hero is. The villagers just assumed it was Ares because he can fight/use magic/heal just like the past heroes. Ares decides to attend the academy to continue honing his skills and he asks Zack to accompany him. Along the way they encounter the demon while in a forest and Zack was too weak to participate in the fight. Ares kills the demon but the demon inflicts fatal wounds to Ares in return. Zack abandons most of their supplies to try and carry Ares out of the forest but the wounds become infected due to lack of healing/proper medical care. Ares begs Zack to put him out of his misery and Zack complies. Here's an excerpt from the LN:
Ares’s eyes were shut. He was clenching his face in an effort to withstand the pain.

“What am I supposed to do when I get to the capital? You’re the Hero, aren’t you? If you die, the world’s gonna end!” I cried.

He didn’t respond for a moment.

“In the end,” he said slowly, “I wasn’t the Hero. The Prophet only said the Hero would come from our village. They didn’t say it was me. And you know what? When I heard what they said, something told me it wasn’t about me. They were talking about you, Zack.”

“How could it be me?! I can’t even use magic! If only I could, I would have healed you! I’m not even that good with a sword…”

I was bawling now, unable to rein myself in.

“I…don’t know why I thought that. I just…did.” Ares’s face was contorted in agony. “Argh, it’s like I’m on fire. It hurts so much. Please, Zack, I’m begging you. Put me out of my misery.”

I could tell just by looking at him that his suffering was immense. Deep down, I knew what had to be done.

My face was damp with tears as I drew the sword. I placed the tip against Ares’s chest as he lay crumpled on the ground.

Ares’s eyes were shut tight as he forced a smile on his face. He was trying to smile even though his last moments were full of pain.

He was doing it for me.

My hand trembled. A moment passed—just a tiny sliver of time—and Ares’s face contorted in pain again. That was when I ran the sword through his chest.

At first, his hard flesh resisted me. I could feel the tremor against my hand. And then the sword sank smoothly into Ares’s torso.

His mouth moved faintly. His last breath barely amounted to a sound.

“Mom,” I thought I heard him say.

To atone for killing Ares, Zack goes to the capital after taking on Ares's name and spends 4 years learning swordsmanship/magic/healing. He embarks on the quest to kill the Demon lord and succeeds, before confessing to Leon, Maria, and Solon that the real Ares died and he was a fake the entire time. He asks them to tell the King that the Hero died to a demon on the journey back. Meanwhile Zack returns to his village, returns Ares's sword to his mother, and leaves the country.
 
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Adding onto this (from the LN, not sure how much the WN differs):
His childhood friend is his cousin Zack. Zack's parents were adventurers who went to help one of the kingdoms that's being invaded by the demon army and left Zack in Ares' parents care. Ares was actually pretty gifted, being able to learn swordsmanship, attack magic, and healing just by practice. On the other hand, Zack was inferior to Ares in swordsmanship and was never able to learn magic while at the village. Zack had more determination/grit/tenacity than Ares while learning and that inspired Ares to continue honing his skills.

The prophecy doesn't specifically state who the hero is. The villagers just assumed it was Ares because he can fight/use magic/heal just like the past heroes. Ares decides to attend the academy to continue honing his skills and he asks Zack to accompany him. Along the way they encounter the demon while in a forest and Zack was too weak to participate in the fight. Ares kills the demon but the demon inflicts fatal wounds to Ares in return. Zack abandons most of their supplies to try and carry Ares out of the forest but the wounds become infected due to lack of healing/proper medical care. Ares begs Zack to put him out of his misery and Zack complies. Here's an excerpt from the LN:
Ares’s eyes were shut. He was clenching his face in an effort to withstand the pain.

“What am I supposed to do when I get to the capital? You’re the Hero, aren’t you? If you die, the world’s gonna end!” I cried.

He didn’t respond for a moment.

“In the end,” he said slowly, “I wasn’t the Hero. The Prophet only said the Hero would come from our village. They didn’t say it was me. And you know what? When I heard what they said, something told me it wasn’t about me. They were talking about you, Zack.”

“How could it be me?! I can’t even use magic! If only I could, I would have healed you! I’m not even that good with a sword…”

I was bawling now, unable to rein myself in.

“I…don’t know why I thought that. I just…did.” Ares’s face was contorted in agony. “Argh, it’s like I’m on fire. It hurts so much. Please, Zack, I’m begging you. Put me out of my misery.”

I could tell just by looking at him that his suffering was immense. Deep down, I knew what had to be done.

My face was damp with tears as I drew the sword. I placed the tip against Ares’s chest as he lay crumpled on the ground.

Ares’s eyes were shut tight as he forced a smile on his face. He was trying to smile even though his last moments were full of pain.

He was doing it for me.

My hand trembled. A moment passed—just a tiny sliver of time—and Ares’s face contorted in pain again. That was when I ran the sword through his chest.

At first, his hard flesh resisted me. I could feel the tremor against my hand. And then the sword sank smoothly into Ares’s torso.

His mouth moved faintly. His last breath barely amounted to a sound.

“Mom,” I thought I heard him say.

To atone for killing Ares, Zack goes to the capital after taking on Ares's name and spends 4 years learning swordsmanship/magic/healing. He embarks on the quest to kill the Demon lord and succeeds, before confessing to Leon, Maria, and Solon that the real Ares died and he was a fake the entire time. He asks them to tell the King that the Hero died to a demon on the journey back. Meanwhile Zack returns to his village, returns Ares's sword to his mother, and leaves the country.
Hold on, what distinguishes
the "real hero" from the "fake one"? It seems to me that Zack was wrong about OG Ares all this time and the villagers were right: Zack's the hero, not Ares. If someone dies before they reach Level 1, by definition they can't be the hero. A hero is defined by what they achieve, not whether they belong to a vague "Hero class" category from a shitty RPG. OG Ares' only achievement was serving as the Uncle Ben to Zack's Peter Parker. Regardless of what he calls himself, Zack is by all accounts a hero and The Hero.
 
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Adding onto this (from the LN, not sure how much the WN differs):
His childhood friend is his cousin Zack. Zack's parents were adventurers who went to help one of the kingdoms that's being invaded by the demon army and left Zack in Ares' parents care. Ares was actually pretty gifted, being able to learn swordsmanship, attack magic, and healing just by practice. On the other hand, Zack was inferior to Ares in swordsmanship and was never able to learn magic while at the village. Zack had more determination/grit/tenacity than Ares while learning and that inspired Ares to continue honing his skills.

The prophecy doesn't specifically state who the hero is. The villagers just assumed it was Ares because he can fight/use magic/heal just like the past heroes. Ares decides to attend the academy to continue honing his skills and he asks Zack to accompany him. Along the way they encounter the demon while in a forest and Zack was too weak to participate in the fight. Ares kills the demon but the demon inflicts fatal wounds to Ares in return. Zack abandons most of their supplies to try and carry Ares out of the forest but the wounds become infected due to lack of healing/proper medical care. Ares begs Zack to put him out of his misery and Zack complies. Here's an excerpt from the LN:
Ares’s eyes were shut. He was clenching his face in an effort to withstand the pain.

“What am I supposed to do when I get to the capital? You’re the Hero, aren’t you? If you die, the world’s gonna end!” I cried.

He didn’t respond for a moment.

“In the end,” he said slowly, “I wasn’t the Hero. The Prophet only said the Hero would come from our village. They didn’t say it was me. And you know what? When I heard what they said, something told me it wasn’t about me. They were talking about you, Zack.”

“How could it be me?! I can’t even use magic! If only I could, I would have healed you! I’m not even that good with a sword…”

I was bawling now, unable to rein myself in.

“I…don’t know why I thought that. I just…did.” Ares’s face was contorted in agony. “Argh, it’s like I’m on fire. It hurts so much. Please, Zack, I’m begging you. Put me out of my misery.”

I could tell just by looking at him that his suffering was immense. Deep down, I knew what had to be done.

My face was damp with tears as I drew the sword. I placed the tip against Ares’s chest as he lay crumpled on the ground.

Ares’s eyes were shut tight as he forced a smile on his face. He was trying to smile even though his last moments were full of pain.

He was doing it for me.

My hand trembled. A moment passed—just a tiny sliver of time—and Ares’s face contorted in pain again. That was when I ran the sword through his chest.

At first, his hard flesh resisted me. I could feel the tremor against my hand. And then the sword sank smoothly into Ares’s torso.

His mouth moved faintly. His last breath barely amounted to a sound.

“Mom,” I thought I heard him say.

To atone for killing Ares, Zack goes to the capital after taking on Ares's name and spends 4 years learning swordsmanship/magic/healing. He embarks on the quest to kill the Demon lord and succeeds, before confessing to Leon, Maria, and Solon that the real Ares died and he was a fake the entire time. He asks them to tell the King that the Hero died to a demon on the journey back. Meanwhile Zack returns to his village, returns Ares's sword to his mother, and leaves the country.
Oh neat! That's kinda tragic but in a bittersweet sorta way. I like it.
 
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Hold on, what distinguishes
Well...
There is no "real" hero. When the prophet declares someone a hero it doesn't automatically give them any stat boosts or anything.

The prophet is
the queen of the kingdom, whose bloodline was designated (or maybe cursed) as the priestess for one of the Gods. She's stuck in a time loop due to their ability that was bestowed upon them by that god. When she dies of something other than old age, they go back into the past to a "checkpoint" that lets them try and change the outcome. The prophet of this generation has actually been timelooping for over 1000+ years. At first she tried to create an alliance of human nations to defend against the demon army but that failed. Then she tried creating another alliance to attack the demon territory but that also failed.

So then the prophet tried designating people as "heroes" to see if they can create an elite party to challenge the demon lord. The priestess tried designating Leon as the hero once but he lasted 3 months before dying. Then Maria was chosen as the next hero and lasted one year before dying. Solon was also chosen as a hero and made it to the demon lord but died due to the power difference between him and the demon lord (he went solo in his attempt). This went on for hundreds of years and eventually the prophet became completely jaded after choosing heroes, watching them die, killing herself, and repeating this over and over.

Eventually she hears about rumors of Ares and tries to designate him as a hero only to find out that he also dies. She was about to kill herself again to reset but decided to watch over Zack to see how far he would get.

Some excerpts from the LN:
The Prophet could only project a phantom of themselves to the person of their choosing and watch how their journey played out. I could make this false version of myself speak words, but I could not actually fight.

I could share the knowledge I had accumulated, of course: information about the future, monsters’ weaknesses, which roads were relatively safe to traverse, what items were absolute necessities, and so forth. I was not completely useless, but it was nothing compared to what the Hero’s party did when they put their lives on the line.

Also, needless to say, designating a Hero did not mean that the person would take on the role. Some refused the call, quite rightly. “I don’t want to do it. It’s too much of a burden,” they would say. I could not blame them for having the most natural reaction. The Heroes I guided would all die from violent and unnatural causes. They gained no special power from accepting the mantle.

By using the name of the “Prophet,” I would bestow the honor of “Hero,” forcing people to take on the duty of “defeating the Demon Lord.” Nothing more, nothing less.

I understood what had happened to me. When I inherited the role of priestess from my mother, I received the power and records of the previous priestesses.

World Revision.

It was a powerful ability to adjust and change the world, bestowed by our god upon the priestess so her clan would live on for eternity. It was also a means to thwart the Demon Lord.

The priestess could not die of anything aside from age; any other cause would activate the power, and time would revert to a point at which the impetus could be averted. One could say it granted someone knowledge that only the heavens could know.

I used this power not just to contend with the Demon Lord, but in many other situations. Even in peacetime, there were threats such as internal backstabbing and assassination attempts from the king’s retainers.

None of those obstacles required multiple uses of World Revision, however. It was only the battle against the Demon Lord that made me experience time over and over again.
 
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What's the point of this story, just to clarify for all the other manga authors what a hero is, unlike the junk we see about harems and exiles and blabla?
If so that's fine I guess.
What's
the point of any story? If you've got solid character drama writing, then a premise like this is more than ok compared to all the other Naro-Kei fare being dumped on here.
 
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Oh I sure do want me some spoilers!
Since people already wrote a bunch of spoilers, i'll just summarize it a bit...

  • The main character we follow trough the whole story is the Interrogator, who is actually Princess Alexia in disguise.
  • She interrogates everyone connected to the Hero, one by one.
  • During the flashbacks we find out that Ares the Hero actually died shortly when he set out on his Hero journey.
  • He was accompanied by his cousin Zack, who in the end had to kill Ares after he was fatally wounded by a demon attack.
  • Zack thinks of Ares as the real Hero and takes his name to finish his duty.
  • After he defeated the Demon King, he told his party the truth but begged them to keep quiet and tell the story of Ares, not Zack. They part ways there, he returns Ares' sword to his mother and leaves the country.
  • In the present Alexia thanks to Solon finds out he is still alive and gets clues how to find him.
  • She goes to see the Prophet who chose the Hero, who turns out to be her Mother, the Queen.
  • Here we find out the Queen is actually over 1000 years old and has the power to turn back time every time she is killed.
  • The Queen chose different Heroes during her life, all known characters were chosen once, but failed.
  • During this time line she actually did choose Ares, but he died, and before she reset the time line again she noticed Zack's resolve and decided to give him a chance.
  • In the end the Queen tells Alexia where Zack is and she and Solon leave to find him.
  • They find him in the village he was born, that had been over run by demons.
  • Solon hugs him like a real bro while Alexia tells him she came to fulfill her promise "To marry the one she truly loves".
  • Zack looks at her and casually invites her to a date in the Capital, and it ends with that line.
 
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Since people already wrote a bunch of spoilers, i'll just summarize it a bit...
Bro went and done the god's work. Seems like a good story, I'll be sure to read the manga till the end, if it does not get the axe (read: WN ad).
 

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