Imasara desu ga, Osananajimi wo Suki ni Natte Shimaimashita - Ch. 36 - After The Festival、Before The Storm

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Everyone is going to be so much madder next chapter lol

In the light novel chapter
we learn that Hikari‘s plan at the after party is to confess her love to Yuu ANYWAY
thats not the vibe im getting you know after reading the web novel chapter.
Rather than having the conviction of knowing she will still confess, feels more like she is convincing herself she will still do it. Like it wouldnt surprise me if instead of confessing when she plan to, she instead just blurted out to yuu that she saw the slap/kiss, cause we know that hikari sometimes let her intrusive thoughts win
 
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thats not the vibe im getting you know after reading the web novel chapter.
Rather than having the conviction of knowing she will still confess, feels more like she is convincing herself she will still do it. Like it wouldnt surprise me if instead of confessing when she plan to, she instead just blurted out to yuu that she saw the slap/kiss, cause we know that hikari sometimes let her intrusive thoughts win
I 100% find that more likely as well I don't think she's going to confess there
 
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Upon further reflection I feel compelled to comment and shit talk Yuu more. Fuck is wrong with him? Make plans/go out with your childhood friend of mutual (?) feelings with, ghost her, meet up with your ex, then make excuses to said childhood friend. Gotta hand it to the author for making a character feel real, because this is the sort of horrendous decision making that you would see in real life from an immature boy, but that doesn't make it any less ass. I am NOT rooting for this bum. Genuinely hope Hikari just leaves him and finds her own happiness because god knows neither him nor Yami deserve the ball of sunshine she is. But that won't happen because the author needs the plot to continue. This shit is so ass. I'm gonna keep reading this train wreck so i can keep complaining now.
 
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Well I finally did a proper read of the WN translation (thanks Litreara)

And holy HELL this fucking wrecked Hikari poor thing...

But I also think some important shit to realize

1. It's all told from Hikari's point of view very explicitly describing her feelings- she says it's been "hours" since he heard her voice but that's not really an exact time at ALL it had already been an hour before she saw the kiss for all we know it could've been only another hour or even less after (although it likely was at least an hour or two imo)

2. A bunch of people are acting like we already know what happened with Yuu between the kiss and him seeing Hikari again but we simply don't...and sure like some people are saying maybe he and Yami fucked for hours straight after the kiss but that's VERY presumptuous when there's definitely other explanations on what happened- maybe they argued for a LONG time maybe they had an argument and he needed to clear his head afterwards and didn't realize how long had past till he checked his phond or maybe he is just a bumbling fuck and walked around the school aimlessly, and till he found her we simply don't know

3. While it is shitty to lie about his phone dying (assuming it didn't actually die and he didn't get it charged just before they met back up or some shit) I can understand him not wanting to actually talk about what happened I mean...he had just seen his ex who had completely ghosted him then fucking kissed him when they meet again- I'm pretty sure that would fuck with most people ESPECIALLY a teenager who doesn't have the experience in life or maturity to fully handle it hell if what Hikari says is true that he seems really shaken up I think it's very it fucked with him quite a bit

I don't want to be making it seem like I'm making excuses for Yuu and saying what he did was okay he handled this shit poorly and should be criticized for it however what I am saying is we don't have the full picture to definitively judge his actions and should consider that Hikari might not be only one going through shit because of this situation
 
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i can really tell the difference between who is too autistic for real companionship and who is not. yuu did nothing wrong, and until i know how it went between him and yami i will reserve judgement. i still hold hikari accountable for herself feeling this way. i mean its in the fucking title of the story, its too late to confess. as for why he didnt tell hikari and made an excuse, its not exactly the time and place to trauma dump about your breakup history. the next few chapters will make or break this story, im hoping for a nice boat ride at the end.
 
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Yuu is invited by Hikari. He doesn't want to go. Hikari convinces him to go. He goes 100% due to Hikari. Ergo. they are going together. The plans are already implied and later confirmed by Yuu.
If Yuu didn't leave that note, how would they even know when and where to meet? Usually when you go together, you spend the whole time together or you agree when and where to meet. The first didn't happen, the second didn't happen.
I don't want to talk semantics and I already said
Of course you'd assume she invited him to the festival not for the sole purpose of him visting her school, but since she already left him on his own, it's normal he'd be doing something else or even lose track of time.
But saying it's normal for her to make him wait (because of club activities) but it's terrible of him to make her wait (because of meeting Yami) is kinda biased, don't you think?

I think in this story, without knowing his thoughts, we can't say anything about him.
He can be aware of everything, and manipulate the situation, for all we know.
I mean yes, technically you could even think he hates women and is only looking for a way to hurt them in some intricate manner, because there was no Yuu POV. But that's where we use Occam's razor. We can clearly see that he is an earnest and naive guy, who gets swayed rather easily. He's also quite devoted, although his devotion has its limits. Despite his earnesty, he does lie occasionally (and Yami was even worried about effectively making him lie to his parents twice), he also tends to run away from difficult situations and dillemas. So all in all, he doesn't seem to be a manipulative kinda person at all.
Of course it would benefit to have his own POV and see his own thoughts. But people already complained a lot about changing protagonists, so I'm not sure you all really want this POV to happen.

I call him an object because I see the entire story thus far as happening without Yuu's agency at all. He just wanders around and is being acted upon by other characters.
I can agree that we haven't seen too much proactiveness from him. That's not equal to being an object imo, because he is still a proper character, but whatever. The important thing is that it's all a matter of perspectives. If, say, he is actually still in love with Yami, there's no need for his proactiveness in Hikari POV chapters, and there was no chance to see what he did after Yami flashback arc and after the break up.
 
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i can really tell the difference between who is too autistic for real companionship and who is not. yuu did nothing wrong, and until i know how it went between him and yami i will reserve judgement. i still hold hikari accountable for herself feeling this way. i mean its in the fucking title of the story, its too late to confess. as for why he didnt tell hikari and made an excuse, its not exactly the time and place to trauma dump about your breakup history. the next few chapters will make or break this story, im hoping for a nice boat ride at the end.
Hikari is doing a BSS routine over a boy she didn't even like first :wooow:
"I deserve him because I was there ignoring him for years" lmao
 
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Now after making a probably overly long comment about how we don't have enough info to have a clear picture, here's me giving what I think happened from what we do have-

I don't think him and Yami did it (at least certainly not for the entire time between the kiss and now) going by the WN chapter I think what likely happened is Yuu and Yami had an argument Yami kissed him (it certainly seems like she initiated it to me) and that's all Hikari saw before leaving then things get murky but my guess is Yuu and Yami argued more after for awhile longer or Yuu left shortly after and ended up walking around the school for a long time processing what just happened completely losing track of time and forgetting about Hikari till he saw her messages then went to her and lies about his phone dying because he wants to avoid talking about what actually happened

One thing I feel at least mostly confident in saying is I think Yuu GENUINELY feels bad for ditching Hikari and is worried about how upset she is sure it's easy for Hikari to think "You know I wouldn’t make you apologize to me over and over for something like that, right?" She knows that about herself but from Yuu's pov he doesn't know Hikari saw what happened he just see's she very upset and acting kinda weird and probably not even fully thinking straight since Hikari herself could tell he's still pretty damn shaken by what happened
 
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That's not how human relationships work.

Sure, she pushed him into coming - which is normal between friends, or when you want to drag your crush somewhere. You don't just ask once and give up, because sometimes people are just obstinant. At my age, I won't go anywhere, but when young, you are prone to be influenced by your friends "come on, it will be fun" said over and over. And that's just how it is. This is not a major demerit.

She left him unaccompanied - totally normal when you invite someone to some kind of school activity. If you ask them to come to your sports game, they accept that they will have to wait until the game proceedings are over. If it's a festival, they will have to wait for you to have time off - because in those cases your obligation is first to other people involved in the event. This is the teen equivalent of work - you can't just ditch because your friend came to visit.

hassled by her friends - obviously normal when your friend's crush comes to visit. Even if it's just a good friend of a friend, the school friend group will want to check him out if there is a chance.

Those are all things Yuu accepted when he agreed to come - reluctantly or not. Hikari did nothing wrong.

Yuu, in turn, ditched her for hours with no contact, the second they were going to meet up. We don't know his thoughts on the matter yet - if he thought that this was just a casual hangout, then he was just being a regular size ass for that. But if he had an inkling of Hikari being into him, and/or was still trying to get together, and he still ditched her in this way, he is a massive PoS.

Usually, I'm on the side "Yuu didn't try hard enough to get with Hikari over the years, but he doesn't owe her anything, so what he did is his business". So if he exchanged contacts after the kiss to talk about the situation, and left because he had another, prior obligation - this would be completely fine on his end even if he ended up with Yami.

But him ditching Hikari in this setting put him clearly on a-hole list. He is not as bad as Yami - as long as he wasn't aware of Hikari courting him or still trying to court her - but he is definitely the only one who fucked up between him, and her.
What Yuu did in not answering her texts starts at rude and gets worse from there depending on what actually happened offscreen, given that he's the one who asked her text. And all the lies after make it really seem like he sucks.

But Hikari, inadvertantly and through negligence, created the perfect opportunity to be ditched. Arguably, an occasion where what Yuu did in leaving a note and bouncing was almost required by etiquette.

See chapter 19 for her invitation, which was cute and relatable when you have access to her inner monologue, but absolutely not cute from Yuu's perspective, and was not "come on it will be fun."

When you invite someone to an event in a capacity that's more than "hey anybody want 10 free tix to [blank]," such that you have "plans" with them, you are the host. You are assuming responsibility for them having a good time, and that comes with certain responsibilities that Hikari failed to live up to. "My shift ends at 1400 - let's go around after!" That simple text, sent at whatever time that morning she knew for sure what her schedule would be, and before Yuu left the house, would satisfy the requirements of hospitality, here. It never came. Not every student at the festival will be working a shift during the festival, but you really hope Hikari at least mentioned that she would be to Yuu.

When Yuu arrives at the maid cafe, her surprise greeting of him leaves her so embarrassed that she runs away to the prep area and hides from him to talk with her friends. Enough time passes with him sitting there that a Yuka is now sitting across from him Being Weird, and Hikari finds time to dart out from the prep area, snatch her friend away without a word to him, and flee back to the prep area. Hikari continues to melt down with no real progress toward speaking to her guest. Again, it's not like they're working hard back there - they're bullshitting/freaking out and ignoring him.

Eventually (<10 min, but enough time to finish his drink) he leaves. Being alone (1 ticket) and stared at and ignored was apparently more than he was willing to deal with. At least he left a note, in case she didn't have her phone on her.

It kind of seems like Hikari wants to have it both ways - a "school festival date" hidden behind the plausible deniability of "well I only invited you to come to festival, not hang out with me." I wouldn't blame Yuu if this made him feel unimportant in her eyes.

All of the above sucks and is really inconsiderate. Don't do that. I don't care if what Yuu did in not reading her texts is morally worse (it is,) because that shit hadn't happened yet. I won't quite stop being friends with you if you do that to me, but you absolutely get a mental note about all future plans. It's not "did nothing wrong," it's a series of fuckups.

Edit: She has the decency to feel bad about it and probably wouldn't do it again, which is part of why she deserves better than all this, but she did goof.
 
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I don't want to be making it seem like I'm making excuses for Yuu and saying what he did was okay he handled this shit poorly and should be criticized for it however what I am saying is we don't have the full picture to definitively judge his actions and should consider that Hikari might not be only one going through shit because of this situation
I'm kinda on this boat, but I wouldn't bet on Yuu doing the less guilty thing given what we have seen until now, that's why I rather have Hikari just part ways even if he really didn't do anything more with Yami. It's just a don't do it girl situation, it's pain for no reason, even if I understand her heart tells otherwise.

I think they really had an affair but later he rejected Yami, that's the kind of story we are in. It's an angstfest.
 
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i can really tell the difference between who is too autistic for real companionship and who is not. yuu did nothing wrong, and until i know how it went between him and yami i will reserve judgement. i still hold hikari accountable for herself feeling this way. i mean its in the fucking title of the story, its too late to confess. as for why he didnt tell hikari and made an excuse, its not exactly the time and place to trauma dump about your breakup history. the next few chapters will make or break this story, im hoping for a nice boat ride at the end.
I think you're pretty damn on point I wouldn't say he did NOTHING wrong him (seemingly) lying about his phone dying and then being gone for seemingly hours was shitty but also very understandable that he doesn't want to talk about what happened especially, since he's likely going through his own emotional shit after that and like you said not exactly the timer place to fuckin trauma, dump

Also I don't think it's really fair to say it's her fault for feeling this way- her childhood friend who she's in love with now just kissed her best friend her being so upset over it is also quite understandable just because her romantic feelings didn't develop until more recently means it's her fault for having them that's not really how feelings work

Also this might sound pedantic as hell but it's not really in the title because saying "it's a little late" is different from "it's too late" it's a small by definitely distinct difference
 

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